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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Topic started by: victorsj on Tuesday 13 October 09 16:29 BST (UK)
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Re Knockaloe camp Isle of Man has anyone got any photos of internees in Camp 3 Compound 2 (hut 1b)?? if so could you email them to me please. Thanks v much
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Not sure if you realise this, but there's an interesting book (with photos) on the Knockaloe Camp - "Living with the Wire". Go to: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Wire-Civilian-Internment-During/dp/0901106356 to order. I have a copy and can check if there are photos of the camp/compound you list, if required. There are many general photos too. Let me know.
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The book is on sale , I believe , for half those prices at the Manx Museum shop, Douglas &
they provide a postal service. Most of the photos are of Camp 1V.
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Thank you so much for your emails. I would appreciate it if you could look in the book to see if there are any photos of Camp 3, Compound2, hut 1b.
Many thanks, we are waiting to hear from the International Red Cross to see if they have any record of what happened to Grandfather - he never returned home to England. Regards.
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Would you be able to give his name & birthcountry / nationality?
Are you aware that only a small number of the 24,000+ men were allowed to return home
to the UK. There were lenghty appeals tribunals. Many were unfortunately deported back to
Germany & only small numbers of wives & children chose to go to endure anti British
feeling/ most stayed in Britain , separation & possibly divorce following
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Hi, this is where we have a bit of a tricky problem - we think that grandfather was Jewish and he changed his name around a bit. What we do have are the names John Arthur Herold (or could be Rolf-Herold as a surname). He also called himself William on one document. My husband's surname is Herold but on one of the birth certificates of grandfather's children the surname os given as 'Rolf-Herold' - thanks for any help you can give at all. We ahve no idea at all what became of him.
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P.S. Grandfather came from Germany - we understand Dresden - originally although he was living in Manchester when he was interned. Thanks
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This probably means that Grandfather was not a practising Jew as many Jewish internees were put in a Mens' holiday camp in Douglas , the capital of the island It had been a tented camp for summer use. Later huts were provided & one part of camp called ---The
Jewish Camp. They were able to have services, celebrate festivals & were provided with
Kosher food. But as you say there must have been some at Knockaloe.
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I've had a quick look in the book, but sadly there are no specific images of the camp/compound you mention, that I can see. Most are of Camp IV. However, there are a lot of unspecified shots of the events, arts, theatre groups, etc that you may find interesting. Hope this helps!
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Yesterday I checked the Museum Shop bookshelves. The book is being reprinted & will be on sale
in December. Price as yet unknown but I am quite sure much less than the internet price.
i looked at 2 boxes of photos exterior & interior views----as varied in subject as possible.
Many include groups of men at work & leisure ,an amazing variety of sports - gym, bowling,
theatre, orchestra,craftwork. Posed groups of men from individual huts seem to have been turned into postcards & sent to family in UK & now donated to the Museum & therefore the
sender has been identified whereas most are just groups of internees / aliens as they were then
known Many of the inmates did I understand call themselves "Most loyal enemy aliens" ---meaning loyal to the British Crown. There was only one named photo of Camp3 Compound 2 no hut
number---a group of smartly dressed ,well groomed & apparently well fed men who were neighbours,posing at the entrance door.
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Sorry for the delay, have been on holiday. Thank you very much for your reply.
We are now waiting for the International Red Cross to come back to us with any info re what happened to Grandfather. Many thanks, will let you know how we get on.
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Hi Victor
We Have John Arthur Herold from Chorton-Cum-Hardy, Manchester on our database.
If you want to get in contact we would hope to be able to find out more for you over the next year - our database goes "live" in the Isle of Man in March 2019 as we are still working on it bringing the various sources of information into the database on the 40,000 Germans and Austrians we have detailed.
We should like to find out a little more from you to allow us to get the information collated on him. If you would like us to help and if you would like to share your family story please do contact us via info@knockaloe.im
Kind regards
Alison