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Title: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: HillRolfeGarnett on Saturday 10 October 09 16:34 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on George Garnet or Garnett born Abt: 1861 and died on the 31/7/1914 he married Louisa Hill  (her parents Mary Coombes and George Hill)
The family was told that he GEORGE Born abt 1861, was from Parramatta NSW Australia, but no other details about his birth, parents or siblings - he moved (unsure at what age) to Toppers Mountain NSW Australia  he lived and died around Inverell NSW Australia, he married Louisa Hill on the 9/11/1889 (Louisa had a twin Henrietta they were born on the 21/10/1872). - Some of George and Louisa’s children are:
George born 1890 – married Isabella Rolfe, (my grandparents)
Walter William born 1891 – married Ethel Chappell,
Helen born 1900 - married Eric Hoey / Walter Delaney
* I am trying to track the Garnett family back but am unable to find birth information on GEORGE Born abt 1861,
* I need to know information about his date & place of birth and parents details.
Can anyone help!!!
Regards Susan

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Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 11 October 09 04:47 BST (UK)
A copy of his marriage certificate should include his parents names his age and where he was born.

Registry of BMD New South Wales
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

·   Details on ALL Certificates for New South Wales
·   http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/certificateDatesAndContent.htm
·   http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Transcription Agents
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html


A transcription agent is a lot quicker, will email it you if you wish and cheaper around $10 less.

Jenn
Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 October 09 05:53 BST (UK)
Bit More,

on the 1878 NSW Electoral Roll for Tenterfield, and at polling place of INVERELL - there's

Henry GARNETT of Swan Vale, and also Andrew GARNETT of Swanbrook...

I'll try to find them on 1870 and on 1903 rolls....

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 October 09 06:03 BST (UK)
Bit More,

(remembering it was NOT compulsory to enrol, but that 1903 NSW rolls included for first time, women aged 21 and over, and there was no longer any "property" requirements to be eligible to enrol, also neither the AGE of elector nor if married/single/divorced etc indicators were ever noted )

1903 NSW Inverell polling place....  Susan, I'm not sure if these surnames have any bearing on your chap)
GARRATT, Elizabeth, domestic duties, at Inverell (no street address shown)
GARRATT, William, senior at Greaves St , labourer
GARRETT, Catherine, at Arthur St, domestic duties

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 October 09 06:08 BST (UK)
Bit More,

In case you don't have this for Louisa Hill.... - this entry could well be her Dad  :D

NSW Electoral Roll, 1878

George L Hill, freehold at Maryland (polling place Tenterfield)...

Cheers, hope this helps somewhat, although not sighted your chap.... sorry.

JM
Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: HillRolfeGarnett on Sunday 11 October 09 09:36 BST (UK)
Hi Jenn,
I have tried BDM but only find George FW Garnett from Braidwood - he is definitely not my George this has been confirmed by his death certificate D.O.D 23/4/1924.
I will consider the Transcription Agents if I don't come up with anything else, after a bit further research by myself and helpful RootsChat people.

Hi JM,
Swanvale and Swanbrook is definitely within the general area, I have not heard of these names before, did you notice if there were any ages against them on the records?
Not sure about the Garratt or Garrett but check with others in my family to see what they think
In relation to Louisa; I have found an excellent link to her ancestors @ http://www.phillips.sheather.co.uk/_sgt/m8m2s6_1.htm

Thank you both for the information
Susan
 
Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 October 09 09:55 BST (UK)
Hi Susan,

The rolls never include their ages, sorry, I have posted all the address that was shown on those rolls... realising that the local returning officer would basically have recognised each person as they came to the polling place to vote...  The 1903 roll was the first to include females, and was also generally considered to be the first without any property requirements..., alas I did NOT spot any with an "N" for your George's surname... BUT, the documents I have are NOT keyword searchable, and so it is a matter of trawling from polling place to polling place...  I only looked at the polling place near Inverell... could be others here at RChat who can help further... but I'm not sure..

Cheers,

JM

Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: HillRolfeGarnett on Sunday 11 October 09 10:05 BST (UK)
Hi JM,
Thanks, just for my infomartion what does "N" stand for in your sentence "alas I did NOT spot any with an "N" for your George's surname" -  I'm new at this & still learning
Susan
Title: Re: Help Needed - Looking 4 George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 October 09 10:17 BST (UK)
Sorry Susan,

"N" as in Garnett, I only found Garratt, etc, I did not find GarNett etc....  -  I am still learning, and here on the Aussie Board at RChat there's many very experienced contributors...  I apologise for my badly worded post...  ;)
Cheers,

JM
Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: Megsy1955 on Wednesday 07 September 11 07:39 BST (UK)
Hi
I live in NSW Australia and was actually born in Inverell NSW, as I am researching a large number of my family from the area, on a visit to Inverell years ago I purchased 3 Cemetery books, 2 for Inverell -and 1 for the smaller cemeteries.....I looked up the 1914 death and will gladly list the burials in Elsmore Cemetery, a small village (near Inverell).

Jack Garnett died 30oct1954 - 49 yrs    note - Garnett not Garrett
Louisa Garrett died 18jan1928 - 55 yrs
Frank Garrett died 20feb1899 - 4 yrs
G   Garrett     no details
George Garrett (Miner) died 31jul1914 - 53 yrs

and at Inverell Cemetery -
William Thomas Garrett    died 28apr1996 - 77 yrs of 41 Granville St, Inv - (WW2 RAAF 135428
Leading Aircraftman)   husband of Gladys - father of Carol, Geoff, Kevin, Bruce & Debbie

Hope this is of some help.    Megsy



Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: HillRolfeGarnett on Wednesday 07 September 11 14:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Megsy,
I am researching Garnet/t I am related to followed:
Jack Garnett died 30oct1954 - 49 yrs    note - Garnett not Garrett
Louisa Garrett died 18jan1928 - 55 yrs
Frank Garrett died 20feb1899 - 4 yrs
George Garrett (Miner) died 31jul1914 - 53 yrs
- it is interesting that you have found  them under GaRRett
I don't know anything about this
- G   Garrett     no details
could you provide any more details about him eg Which Cemetery etc.
***** My ancestors are from the Inverell Area - Garnett /Rolfe/Hill &  Griffiths/Baxter/ Whitton - I wonder if we have any connection
Thanks Susan
Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: Megsy1955 on Friday 09 September 11 05:33 BST (UK)
Hi Susan,
The Jack, Louisa, Frank, G and George are buried in the small township of Elsmore (just out of Inverell) The other one William Thomas was buried in Inverell Cemetery.  I could find more details on Elsmore if you would like it.
(I guess could have just been a spelling error).
I am related to Rolfe family from Inverell, but I think there were more than one family of them, (not related to each other)
My Rolfe’s in brief are:
Elizabeth   WHITBY  BORN:  14th November, 1857 -  Armidale NSW.  DIED/BURIED:    19/9/1939 -82 yrs - Inverell NSW
MARRIED:  19th August, 1874 – Inv District
TO WHOM:    James ROLFE (B.8/9/1846 at Downham, Norfolk, ENG – Died 24/1/1936 – 89 yrs – buried Inverell Cem) (Have not sorted his parents details as yet)
CHILDREN:
1.  James               ROLFE  1874 - Inverell NSW
2.  George Joseph ROLFE   Born 1876  Inverell - Married Annie C.    HUTTON
3.  Vernon Joseph ROLFE Born  June,1882 -  Inverell NSW  - DIED: 17/8/1955 -73 yrs – Inverell  MARRIED:  1913 at Inverell   
        Eva/Edna May(Olive)HUNT
4   Emily E (Emmy) ROLFE  MARRIED:  1900 at Inverell   TO   John D. (Jack) RANKIN  (Lived at Toowoomba QLD in 1939)



Anything here look promising?   I can give more details if needed….also could list the Rolfe’s burials from my books if you would like them……….Or if you can help with the parents of James (born 1846)……..   Megsy

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Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: majm on Tuesday 08 May 12 14:15 BST (UK)
Hi

Did you obtain their mc that you mention the index sighting of, on your recent thread

Cheers JM
Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: HillRolfeGarnett on Wednesday 09 May 12 15:17 BST (UK)
Yes I have George & Louisa's Marriage Certificate NSW BDM Rego # 1889/005330.
no mention of Birthplace, nor parents names for either the of them - I contacted the United Church Archives (married as Presbyterian) and they advised that they have no records and I could contact the NSW state Archives ( yet to do this)  - BDM has a Thomas and Mary Garnet (1 xT ) married within 5 years - also investigating possible link with my George.

NSW BDM SEARCH RESULTS
You searched marriages for the Groom's last name Garnet in the years 1800 to 1900
1 - 2 of 2 matches found 
Registration Number  Groom's Surname  Groom's Given Name(s)  Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage  Bride's Given Name(s)  District * Purchase Certificate 
3046/1884  GARNET  THOMAS  PROCTOR  MARY A  WOOLLAHRA 
5330/1889  GARNET  GEORGE  HILL  LOUISA  INVERELL   

Regards Susan
Title: Re: George GARNETT born 1861, married Louisa HILL (Inverell)
Post by: Neil Todd on Thursday 10 May 12 02:49 BST (UK)
Just to through panic into confusion altogether. There are a number of births to a Webb and Louisa Garrett including two unamed males?
Between 1854 and 1865? It does have an unamed male B 1861.

Dont ask me why they didn't name the males. But I dont think any were born Parramatta, but I wouldn't put too much credence on that birthplace.

NEIL