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Title: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Thursday 08 October 09 22:36 BST (UK)
Hello,

Hoping for help finding info on the family of my g.g.grandmother, Jane Robinson (also Robertson). I have little info and don't know what to do next, feeling quite stuck  :-\

Jane married James Peters, son of Patrick and Christy, in Upper Stewiacke, Colchester county, NS on 17-Feb-1857. The church burned down in 1893 so no marriage record exists. They had a large family, a dozen children. I have information from local oral family history that Jane's parents were William Robertson and Ellen McLeod. I would dearly like to have any record to make this official. Census records of the time were head counts only; I don't know where Jane grew up or where her parents might have married. Any leads at all would be most appreciated.

Thank you ;D

Jeannie



Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Friday 09 October 09 01:54 BST (UK)
Have you tried
www.novascotiagenealogy.com
You will find some information on BMD's on this site.
There is a birth of James Henry Peters in 1866. I think he is a son of James and Jane.
Also the marriage of Patrick Peters and Christiana Fulton in 1819.
It can be quite time consuming going through the BMD's but if you are patient you may find information that will help in your search. You may be able to connect some of the names just by looking through the site.
Also if you do an on-line search for Colchester Historical Society Museum and Archives, you will find information on old census under the archives section. There are also quite a few books on individual families from Colchester county and you can also check the Gene Janes site.
I would also type in a search for Colchester County genealogy and see what comes up.
Good luck.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 19:03 BST (UK)
I imagine you have this, but it can help sleath things out to see her ancestry...she was born circa 1837 in Nova Scotia of Irish descent... Mother in law Christie, born Scotland, is also in household

In 1881 Middle, Stewiacke, Colchester, Nova Scotia
 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008122890.jpg

James b. c. 1835 is a shoemaker  all are down as C.Presbyterian
children listed are:Ellin, John, Lydia, Alex, Henry, Maggie, Emma, Mary, Susan, William & Phillip
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 19:13 BST (UK)
Middle Stewiacke 1891 census
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=645120

Hmmm only 2 children left in household in 1891 and says both her parents were born Scotland!  :-\
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 20:23 BST (UK)
and looking at the birth in 1866 that valeriec found, altho he doesn't appear on census as James, but as Henry...this would be their child, as also says they were married 1857
James put Jane's last name down as " Robison"

Only Robinson families listed in Colchester
http://www.cb-ns.org/NonMember/Cen_1838ColchesterCo.htm
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 20:25 BST (UK)
Also found a birth for Margaret Catherine Peters 1866
again this one says mother Jane Robinson...! James was informant, but surely he knows his wife's surname?
Mary Bell Peters -  Philip Auston Peters  - Susan Edith Peters - William Roderick
all say mother Jane Robinson
I also see the marriage date on Philip's...Fby 17 1857, so I think you have all this but got the name wrong! However Susan's says m. 1856 in Pictou, Wm's says 1856 as well

Oh, I see rereading, that although you have heading as Robertson, that you also say Robinson...  :-\
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Friday 09 October 09 21:39 BST (UK)
Hi J.J., Hi Valerie,

Thank you both for all your efforts. Perhaps I should have mentioned I have alot of information on the twelve Peters children, as well as a solid lead on the ancestry of James Peters. Where I am super-stuck is finding anything to connect Jane to her theoretical parents William and Ellen. I'm not even sure any record to support this even exists, it would only be a church record. As I don't know where in Nova Scotia she may have been born or where her parents may have married, I don't know where to look. I'm starting to think I would need to go parish-by-parish from Colchester to Pictou, where alot of Robertsons show up. In fact I found a 1871 census entry for a William and Ellen Robertson in Middle River (Pictou) followed by deaths registered in closeby Hopewell (1872) for William Robertson and Ellen McLeod. I think the only way I can sort this out is to lookup church records at the archives in Halifax or hire someone to do so on my behalf. :-\

I'd be very interested to have your thoughts on what my next step should be. ;D

BTW, James and Jane Peters emigrated to Ipswich, Massachusetts in 1899 with their two youngest, Susan and Phillip. I'd love to know why, but no clue. James passed away there on June 27, 1911, and Jane went to live (still in Ipswich) with Susan's family (Susan married Edmund Wile) until she passed away on Feb. 12, 1921. I am waiting for an obituary search for her in Colchester, I think in the meantime I'll try to get one from the States.

Sorry to run on so much  :D
Thanks again, Jeannie :)
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 21:56 BST (UK)
Still, I am curious as to what records possess you to look for the surname Robertson?
for instance, did you look into this family from 1838 Colchester to rule them out?

Isabella  &  John ROBINSON a wheelwright in Londonderry Twp

then in 1881 there is an Alexander ROBISON a widower of Scottish descent b. c. 1839 Nova Scotia with family all Presbyterian and an Isbell Robison who is likely his mother of Irish descent b. 1817 N.S. , then a Trifinia b. c. 1845 who may be a sister or in-law...Now see in actual image it says Alexander is married not widowed as transcribed...so she may be wife
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008122480.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008122481.jpg
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 09 October 09 22:18 BST (UK)
In Scotland and Ireland Robinson (and Robison) and Robertson are interchangable so it's not strange to associate the names with each other.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Friday 09 October 09 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi again J.J.,

I visited the Stewiacke Valley of Nova Scotia this past summer. I was fortunate to find an individual who had collected oral history in the 1950's from the elders of the region. This person was able to add detail to my family group of James and Jane Peters. Such as, where I had a birth year he filled in the date, where I had a child's middle initial he filled in the middle name. He also gave me death dates which check out.

So far, this the the only source I have for Jane's parents names. Given the fact her name shows up as Robison, Robeson, Robbison and Robinson on her children's records, and also the fact that the two names become intertwined in 17th-18th century Scottish records, and the fact that Robertson is a much more popular name in the region than Robinson, it seems plausible. What I was dearly hoping for during my visit was a marriage record, learning of the destruction of the parish church was a heartbreaker. :(

Sorry for running on ... again  ::)  :)

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 October 09 23:46 BST (UK)
Not at all, this is your family!... Let's hope the oral history proves to be correct. I know my husband has a cousin who is into oral history from elders and has now named most people in his unmarked photos...but ...the actual ages don't match the age of the image in some cases...
Wish we could get them on a census, as you say...It will be hard to prove that you are going down the right road.

We never seem to have any helpers in Nova Scotia  :-\ pity

aghadowey... Thanks for the clarification on the names...  J.J.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 10 October 09 02:39 BST (UK)
In case he is a brother, as he is having children around the same time/area as Jane?
You may want to look at this fellow in Earlton, Colchester, Nova Scotia 1881, married in 1853 Pictou and had son James Henry "Robson" 1864 in upper Stewiacke ( Danial Robson & Caitarine Peters)
I think this is they in 1881 Census - Earlton, Colchester, Nova Scotia
 Danial ROBINSON  Scottish age 50 b. Nova Scotia  Storekeeper ( but was a farmer and a tailor /see births) Ch of Scot 
 John A ROBINSON  age 27      Nova Scotia      Tailor
 William ROBINSON age 17      Nova Scotia      Tailor
 James H. ROBINSON age 15      Nova Scotia      Farmerson ??
( Catherine missing in household)


 also a Mary Jane Robson born  in 1866 to Danial Robson & Catherine in Upper Stewiacke, Colchester
 
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Saturday 10 October 09 04:53 BST (UK)
I found this information on the Colchester Historical Society Museum and Archives
www.genealogynet.com/resident/colchester/home.htm
under archives/cemetery index
William Robinson buried in Castlereagh Cemetery, no death date

Eleanor Robinson b. 1838 d. 1916
William Robinson b. 1823 d. 1895
Elizabeth E. Robinson b. 1864 d. 1902
Ida M. Robinson b. 1862 d. 1903
Sarah J. Robinson b. 1866 d. 1866
These five are all buried in the same plot in the Debert Cemetery, Debert, marker # 24

Eleanor could be your Ellen.

I checked the 1838 census information and couldn't find anything on the Robinson but Patrick Peters is listed in Upper Stewiacke

I hope this helps point you in the right direction and hopefully it is the family you are looking for.

Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Saturday 10 October 09 05:03 BST (UK)
I found this information on the 1901 Census through auntomated geneaolgy.

Mrs. Robinson, b. 1839
living with the David Maxwell family, mother of Mrs. David.
Five Islands, colchester county, district 29
This could be your elusive Ellen/Eleanor Robinson. I haven't found the family on the 1911 census so it is possible that they moved around quite a bit following the work.

I checked  Jane Wile's site at www.genejane.com. This was once a free site but now you have to pay for details. You can still search the index and if you find something that you want to follow up on, you can pay to do a search.
I would definitely check out this site as the owner has been working on research for about 30 years and has over 200,000 names in the database most in Colchester co. There are numerous books on families available for Colchester Co. such as the Miller Book which has families from the early to mid 1800's.
Have you checked ancestry.ca to see if anyone else is researching the same families as you.
I will keep searching for information and post if I find anything else.
Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 10 October 09 18:57 BST (UK)
Hi, Val  :D ...just pointing out that this Ellen would have to be a generation's age older as Jane Peter's nee Robinson was born circa 1837, and Ellen is supposed to be her mother.
Good idea to use the genejane site....hopefully if you find something, the charges aren't too steep...but one pays for ancestry info etc, so I guess it is worth it if the research proves to be valid....
 
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Saturday 10 October 09 19:53 BST (UK)
In fact I found a 1871 census entry for a William and Ellen Robertson in Middle River (Pictou) followed by deaths registered in closeby Hopewell (1872) for William Robertson and Ellen McLeod.

J.J., right about the age thing  :)
The William (78 yrs) and Ellen Robertson (75 yrs) I found in the 1871 census (both born Scotland) are living next to a large Robertson family. I theorize that the head of household, Henry Robertson (50, b. NS), is their son.

The death register entries I found for William Robertson and Ellen McLeod were both in May, two weeks apart, 1872. Ages of 80 and 76 respectively match the ages of the couple in the census.  Both had the same informant, Ellen Robertson. Looks likely to be a daughter with the deceased being also named Ellen.

So I will assume the oral history to be correct until proven otherwise, especially since there is evidence of a couple of the same name and appropriate age living nearby the Stewiacke Valley.

To summarize, I am looking for proof of this family/relationship:

William Roberton, b. 1792, Scotland (head)
Ellen Roberston (nee McLeod), b. 1795, Scotland (wife)
Henry Robertson, b. abt. 1821, Nova Scotia
Ellen Roberston, b.?
Jane Robertson (my g.g.g.grandmother), b. 26 Apr 1836, Nova Scotia

Val, thanks for the tip on the site, it looks promising and is so nice to know someone has worked so hard on such a specific region. No matter what I may find, I'm very pleased to know of it. I'll give it a go later on and get back to you with news. ;D
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Saturday 10 October 09 22:20 BST (UK)
GeneJane is a wonderful site, however nothing there to further me on.  :(

The one and only thing I did find on my family at least made it worth the while, as it was good for a laugh. As I mentioned before I'm a bit further on in my Peters line. BTW Val, your earlier post of finding a Patrick Peters 1838 census is my family  ;)

Patrick Peters m. Christy McLeod (date & place unknown), children:
John, b. 1822, d. Mar-16-1850 of smallpox
Alexander, b. abt. 1829 d. Jan-17-1893 or 1903 (waiting on req. conf.)
James, b. Apr-19-1834, NS, d. Jun-27-1911, Ipswich, MA
Mary
Margaret b. abt.1819, d.1848
Christy
Catherine

So after all that set-up, here is what I found out about my g.g.g.uncle:

"Alexander Peters of South Branch, stewiacke, came in on No. 1 express this morning bound for Pictou. Not being accustomed to travel he boarded the Pictou accomodation bound for Halifax instead. When the train was under way at a good rate of speed he discovered his mistake and most rashly jumped from the fast moving train, striking the ground and sustaining a very serious compound fracture of the leg. The train was stopped and he was brought back to the station. Drs. Kent and Yorston were soon in attendance and with the assistance of other physicians took the suffering man in charge." (Truro Daily News, April 17 1891)

Hope you both got a chuckle from this ;D

Running on again :D. Alexander is in the 1871 census living with his brother James' family, while his wife is living separately with two daughters. He remarried in 1880 to Euphemia "Effy" Thompson. Odd for an Irish Catholic.

This is a picture of his son I was most fortunate to find on my NS trip:
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 11 October 09 04:05 BST (UK)
Pictou Genweb http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspictou/

Pictou Wills & Probate Records
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspictou/

our N.S. resource page
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,224493.0.html
I just added some Colchester sites at the bottom which includes a fabulous pioneer book but don't see your surnames... :-\



Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Sunday 11 October 09 14:45 BST (UK)
Sorry about the mixup in dates. I was looking at the marriage date as birth date. However, any of the Robinson/Robertson that you find in the Colchester area are probably all related to each other in some way so don't discount anything that you may find.
The marriage bond between Christiana McLeod and Patrick Peters in on the novascotiagenealogy.com site.
It is listed as Marriage bond, 7 May 1819 Halifax County, reg. year 1819, book 1800, page 4336.
It mentions Patrick Peters, labourer and James Fulton, Farmer of Swine. There must be a connection between James Fulton and Christiana McLeod. You can look at the actual marriage bond on-line at this site.
Surprisingly, families moved quite often when you look at the conditions at the time. You will find the families living in different townships so don't discount anything that you find. In my research of the Crowes, Staples and Barnhills in the late 1700's, early 1800's I covered areas including Windsor, Pictou, Tatmagouche, Stewiacke, Londonderry and Portapique.  I was amazed at the distances these people were willing to move for a new life. I have been looking through as many sites as possible trying to find when the Robinsons/Robertsons may have arrived in Canada but no luck as yet.  I didn't find anything about them in the Thomas Miller Book that is on-line for Colchester County. His book covers all the early families and their descendants into the 1800's.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Sunday 11 October 09 17:22 BST (UK)
Have you looked under the resources section for Canada. Under Nova Scotia research, you will find some amazing links that you may be able to pursue.
I'm not sure exactly where you got the information on the deaths in 1872 for Ellen McLeod and William Robertson but they are on  novascotiagenealogy.com but the information for Ellen McLeod is a bit confusing. The year 1872, book 1813, page 113, number 101 and 102.
William Robertson, age 80, married, born in Scotland, Parents name Robert and Eliz ? Robertson, occupation Farmer
d. 12 May 1872, Glengarry, old age, informant was Ellen Robertson.
Ellen McLeod, age 78?, married, born in Scotland, parents William and Ellen Robertson, D. 26 May 1872, Glengarry, occupation farmer, informant was Ellen Robertson.
It is possible that McLeod is the maiden name and not the married name but that would have been unusual in Nova Scotia at that time. Under the section for parent's name, occupation and whether alive or dead, the information for Ellen McLeod is William and Ellen Robertson. These deaths are definitely in the Hopewell area so I would definitely follow up on these.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Sunday 11 October 09 17:28 BST (UK)
Forgot to post this on last reply. If William and Ellen were both born in Scotland, have you looked for a marriage in Scotland. You can look under Scotland's People or look at the Scotland resources on this site.

I would definitely look at these two sites for more info.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspictou/

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/

What site did you find the 1871 census entry for William and Ellen, where were they living and who was living with them.

Good luck  Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Sunday 11 October 09 17:35 BST (UK)
This is just another little tidbit and then I am off for Thanksgiving dinner.
Have you noticed that Patrick Peters married Christiana McLeod and you think that William Robertson/Robinson married Ellen McLeod. It is entirely possible that there is a connection between Christiana and Ellen McLeod. Also as I said before on the marriage bond between Patrick and Christiana, James Fulton is the person responsible for Christiana. The only James Fulton I could find at that time period was in Amherst. I guess at this point I would continue to look at bit of information and not give up on any lead. These people could all be connected possibley through the McLeod's.
Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Sunday 11 October 09 22:23 BST (UK)
I have checked out the Rootsweb Pictou site but did not find much, I will definitely go over it again. I will also try posting again on the NS Pictou page. I recently tried to do so but my internet/email- provider sent me back a message "rejected by server". I will also try the canns page.

Without a documented connection between Jane and parents William and Ellen, I am not looking forward on that couple too much yet. But when I have (hopefully) found that confirmation I will definitely check the Scotland marriages.

I found the info on the death entries on the same site that you did. I also (should have mentioned, and sorry for the goof re: date & place of marriage  :-[) found the Peters-McLeod marriage bond there, as you did also. I would have ordered it if I thought it contained more info, but I never thought to look into the connection to James Fulton. Thanks for the idea. ;D

Funny I assumed McLeod to be the maiden name, since this is what I was looking for, and the informant info being identical to William's, but you're absolutely right about that being unusual as opposed to married name.  ???

I found the info for the 1871 census on ancestry. After many years of abstaining my impatience got the best of me and I caved into a 3-month membership. Is there anything I can look up for you?

Thanks so much to you both, what a great exchange of info and ideas. :)

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving holiday,

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 11 October 09 23:32 BST (UK)
Did you also see the people willing to do lookups in different areas? An email wouldn't hurt...
Happy Thanksgiving and best of luck :D  J.J.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Monday 12 October 09 00:05 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.,

Do you mean posting on the RootsChat Canada Lookups or somwhere else?
I thought the only way to lookup church records in NS was at the archives in Halifax.  :-\

After a detailed search on Ancestry.com, I've narrowed down to two families which might contain my Jane in Egerton, Pictou, NS, both with William Roberston as head (1851 census). I'm going to go over the Rootsweb Pictou site again tonight.

Thanks for the holiday well-wishes, same to you and yours,
Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Monday 12 October 09 05:05 BST (UK)
no we haven't anyone to do lookups on here in N.S. ...I thought there was an available lookups page in the resources, i guess I was thinking of elsewhere, sorry

This is a paid archive site...you can peruse available resources (scroll to see link to pdf ) to see if anything looks to be close to your information
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspcghs/holdings.html
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Monday 12 October 09 13:33 BST (UK)
You can do a search for Pictou County Surname Registry or go to Pictou County Gen Web Project at
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspictou/srnmsaf.htm

If you scroll down the left side almost at the bottom, you will Pictou County Surname Registry. If you click on this it will take you to a list of people researching the same surname as you that are willing to share their information.

When you are looking at the sites go through all the information. Many of the local societies have a lot of information that is not on-line. Check out the archives at each site to see if they have something that my be of interest to you. You often need to contact them to find out if they have information on your surname. The societies will see if they have information on the surname and then charge you to do the search and for the copies. You can get a lot of information in this way. I always do a search for other people researching the same name and have been quite successful.
Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Monday 12 October 09 19:42 BST (UK)
J.J. that's so funny, I sent an e-mail last night to the PCGHS. I believe they have access to the records necessary to tie my two families together. I had been pondering this course of action for a while; finding the Robertson couple's 1871 census and 1872 death records has made me curious enough to take the plunge.

Val, thanks for the tip, it's always good to know how other researchers have been helped to find the answers they seek.

I'll keep you posted on what I find next,

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Thursday 15 October 09 00:21 BST (UK)
Time for an update!

Today I received a reply to a letter I sent two months ago from the oral history expert I came in contact with this summer. I was not counting on a reply as it was more of a "thank you, and if you have any more info please advise". With the reply came the fact I am the third different decendant of James & Jane Peters to have contacted him the past twenty years.

Moreover, I also received a reply today from the PCGHS. What a pleasant surprise to get a friendly answer in just two business days, with news that "some digging" had already been done on my behalf and summed up with a bit of good advice!

Just want to take a moment to say, after having visited Nova Scotia very recently for the first time, the people there are just the nicest I've ever met. Not that I'm much of a traveller ... but remarkable people.

So, finally to the point:
Note that info is not sourced ... yet.

William Robertson/Robinson married Ellen MacLeod form Invernesshire, and lived in Pictou County, NS. Ellen was a sister to Christy MacLeod who married Patrick Peters. William and Ellen had ten children.

1. Christy, m. Alex Bruce and had William, daniel, Alexander, Philip, Henry, Ellen, Marion, Jessie, Margaret, and one other.
2. Margaret, m. William Fraser and had James Henry, William, Catharine, Ellen Jane, Margaret, Sophia, Alexander, Annie L., Hector, Lena Bell, and Minnie E.
3. Alexander, m. Jane (maiden name unknown) and had one son, died young.
4. Henry, m. Catherine McNaughton and had William, John, Dan Philip, Alexander, Ellen, Marjorie, Mary Ann, Christy, Lizzie, Cassie, and James R.
5. Philip, m. Bell Halliday and had Thomas, Gordon, Alexander, Joe, John, Elizabeth, and Ellen.
6. Catherine Ann, m.no.1: George Robertson and had Ellen, Margaret, Jane, Jessie Bell, and William. m.no.2: George Murray and had Cassie, Jane, Walter, George, and John. m.no.3: John Jardine - no children.
7. Daniel, m. his cousin Catherine Peters (daughter of Patrick and Christy Peters), lived in Earltown, NS and later went to Boston, where she died. Children: Margaret, Evelyn, Mary Jane (called Minnie), Christy, John, Alexander, William, and James Allen. Evelyn, Christy, and the three boys died unmarried. Margaret m. John Lloyd, lived in South Boston and had three children. Minnie m. James Henry Peters (son of James and Jane Peters) - no children.
8. Roderick, m. Janet Thompson and ad Margaret, Ellen, Martha, and four others who died young.
9. Jane, m. her cousin James Peters and had Christy Ann, John George, James Henry, Alexander Daniel, Ellen Sophia, Lydia Jane, Margaret Catherine, Elizabeth Emma, Mary Bell, William Roderick, Susan Edith, and Philip Austin.
10. Walter, died very young.

I am requesting Jane Peters death certificate from Massachusetts (thanks to a suggestion from Pictou CGHS, why didn't I think of that?!) to finally get a document (hopefully) proving the connection between Jane and her parents.

Val, your theory of a MacLeod relationship would seem to be fact - Ellen MacLeod and Christy MacLeod were sisters. Cousins in the tree! Guess that's never happened before  ::). Hope this might help distant cousins out there.

Thanks fellow rootschatters for your help and support, it means alot!

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 15 October 09 18:51 BST (UK)
 ;D Wonderful that the history pans out...I saw all the Mcleods/Robinsons on the list in Pictou...Looks as though your ancestors helped populate the Province. All the best, J.J.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: valeriec on Thursday 15 October 09 20:22 BST (UK)
I am glad that your search has worked out so well for you. Just think what little information you had just a few days ago and what you have now. Never give up. There is lots of information out there and people willing to help you find it. I would look for books for Pictou Co. on the McLeod's/Robinson/Robertson's now and see where that leads you.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Val
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Friday 16 October 09 02:58 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.,

Hi Val,

So nice to hear from you both  ;D !
Thanks very much for your well wishes and kind advice.

I plan to press my luck for a third time with my wonderful new Nova Scotia contact, hoping for more information on my Peters family. In the meantime I'll see what I can find in the Pictou historical books at my local library. With luck I will post an update again soon.  :)

Thanks again and best regards,
Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia (COMPLETED W/THANKS)
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Friday 23 October 09 00:03 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.,

Hi Val,

I am asking for this to be moved, but first an update:

Through the Pictou RootsWeb, I have recently made contact with a distant relative!  ;D

We share a common g.g.g.g.grandfather. First cousin four times removed?  ??? Never could get a hold on how that works.  :P

Between the info we both have, and the fact that neither of us has been at this line for long, I think we have a much clearer idea of the path ahead. Much to explore.

Just wanted to thank you both again for all your help and motivation.  :)

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Friday 23 October 09 00:45 BST (UK)
Haha, I can never get it straight either... http://bluett.com/peter/relationship.html

Wonderful that the newfound  rellie wants to chat with you... Not everyone is receptive to new family.
How lucky that there was information to be found on your McLeod / Robertson
Glad that things are working out for you... J.J.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: CraigR on Saturday 04 September 10 06:03 BST (UK)
I just ran across this post today after doing some research on the 1851 census.  My GG Granfather is George Robertson, who I have been searching for detail on since 1984!  George is one of William Robertson and Ellen McLeod's 10 Children.  I am working on putting some of the info together and confirming details.  The "oral dictation" you have appears to lists George's wife Catherine Ann INGRAM as a daughter of William & Ellen she first married George Robertson Then George Murray Then John Jardine.  I have come across many details of their children and their marriages and will update you. 

I also have pictures of most of the related gravestones in the Marshdale / "also mentioned as place of death Glengarry or buried in middle River Birch Hill Cemetery"

Have you found anything more about William's Parents Robert and Elizabeth ?
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Tuesday 07 September 10 22:55 BST (UK)
Hello Craig,

So nice to meet another distant cousin! I have spent some time on the Scotland's People website over the past several months and have found some tidbits, although difficult to connect. I just got home an hour ago after a two-week absence so I can't make this too long tonight, but I wanted to touch base with you and let you know I will post again in a day or two.

Cheers,
Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: CraigR on Tuesday 28 September 10 00:22 BST (UK)
I'm still working on this but it appears this oral history may check out completly.  I have found many more details of the children that names check out.  Catherine Ann may have been the daughter of Wm. & Ellen as pictou county marriages lists the marriage of George Robertson of West River to Catherine Ann Robertson of Middle River.  One of her daughter's death certificate in Mass lists her parents as George Robertson and mother's maiden name as Catherine Ann Robinson (as many other childen in that family generation spelled it Robinson or Robson)  I don't know why Grandfather said her maiden name was Catherine Ingram in his typed history of the family.  I do know my great grandfather's name was James William Ingram Robertson and there was a William Ingram who married a Robertson in Pictou County and later lived 3 doors away from George and Catherine's other farm in Brooklyn Hants County.  William Ingram also signed one of George's & Catherine's daughter's marriage license so I know he ties into the family somehow.  I have a few theories on perhaps how but won't share them here.  I just read all the probate records of George's will at the PANS today but didn't learn much except he had 2 farms one in pictou and one in hants county, which I already knew the family was back and forth but didn't realize he owned it at the time.

Could you tell me who sent you that oral history collected from the elders in stewiacke calley in the 50's I would really like to check this out more as I am only 15 minutes away from there!
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Wednesday 29 September 10 00:23 BST (UK)
Hi Craig,

Very sorry for the late reply. Been fighting a tough cold for the last couple of weeks.

I visited Nova Scotia for the first time ever last year and fell in love with the place. One of my reasons for visiting was research, and I was fortunate enough during my visit to the Colchester Archives in Truro to have been put in contact with a Mr. Ross Graves, a specialist in Stewiacke Valley family research. The people at the Upper Stewiacke Museum also know him. Let me try to clarify your situation based on his info, and others on NSARM:

Your Catherine Ann is the sixth child of William Robertson and Ellen McLeod. I am descendant of your GG Grandmother Catherine's sister, Jane, the youngest daughter to the couple. Jane married her cousin James Peters and settled in the Stewiacke Valley. My Jane also spelled her name as Robinson or Robison more often than Robertson when her children's births were recorded.

I can't recall how to get you my e-mail more privately but I would like to share what more I have with you. If you can figure it out first I'll hear from you, if not, I'll talk to you soon.

Jeannie
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 29 September 10 04:04 BST (UK)
Jeannie , Just hit the green scroll under his avatar... Have fun!
Title: Re: ROBERTSON-MCLEOD, 1800's Nova Scotia
Post by: jeannie1000cc on Thursday 30 September 10 00:01 BST (UK)
Hi J.J., so nice to hear from you!

I think the cold must have gone to my head - silly I got a mental block.

All the best,
Jeannie