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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Memm on Tuesday 06 October 09 18:17 BST (UK)
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I would like to know the first names of my great grandparents (and any other info really)but i aren't having much luck!
My nans maiden name was Hurst and she originated from Cheadle, Stoke on Trent. I have looked up on a site and found that her mothers maiden name was Rowlinson.
They had quite a lot of children (7 ish) but the only names i know are:
Constance Mary (my nan) born 26.06.1924
Frederick
Kathleen
Terence
I don't know when their parents married or were born, but both parents died quite young as i remember my Nan saying that her & her older siblings helped bring up the younger children
All have unfortunately died now except for Kathleen but she doesn't remember anything and she would also like to know what i can find out.
Please help if you can. xxx
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Hello Memm, Welcome to Rootschat.
There seem to have been lots of Hurst offspring born in Cheadle between 1911 and 1925, with mother's maiden name Rowlinson, including those names you have mentioned. They can be found on www.freebmd.org.uk
The only possible marriage I can see is in 1905 and in a different part of the country but I'll give you it anyway, it could still be yours.
Mar 1905 Sleaford 7a/641
Harry Hurst
Christania Rawlinson
Jen
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I forgot to say that if you send for your nan's birth certificate, it should have both parents' names on it, which would make it much easier to find their marriage and to track down their own births and families.
If you use the birth registration reference for Constance M Hurst, given on FreeBMd, you can buy a birth certificate for seven pounds.
Jen :)
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There's a1910 marriage in Cheadle Ada Rowlinson to Edwin R Hurst..
http://www.bmsgh.org/staffsbmd/index.html
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If Ada and Edwin are right there are a couple of deaths on FreeBMD which fit,Ada Hurst 1931 age 44 Stoke on trent,Edwin R Hurst 1934 age 48,Cheadle.
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There's a1910 marriage in Cheadle Ada Rowlinson to Edwin R Hurst..
http://www.bmsgh.org/staffsbmd/index.html
That looks far more likely than the one I found earlier and fits with the dates of the birth registrations too.
Jen
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Thank you all that have replied. The info is exactly what i wanted. It makes me want to do a family tree now, but i hear they are rather time consuming but very interesting. xx
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If you think Ada and Edwin are yours,I'll have a look for them in the 1901.
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Thank you all that have replied. The info is exactly what i wanted. It makes me want to do a family tree now, but i hear they are rather time consuming but very interesting. xx
More like an obsession, I'd say. Go on, do it. You will be hooked, just like the rest of us.
Jen :)
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Hi
I will give you a boost as well. I live in Cheadle and I will have a look for any Rowlinson and Hurst families in the cemetery. Any other names you are after let me know, they do not have to have lived or died in Cheadle
regards
Alf
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To Hepburn & Alf,
Thank you for your offers, your help will be most appreciated and i am very interested in what you may find. Can i ask also how do you find out what jobs they did and who their parents were etc.
I knew i would get too interested in all this!!! ;)
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Hello Memm,
There are various ways of finding out about our ancestors but the simplest methods are by sending for Birth, Marriage or Death certificates and through censuses, up to 1911, which is the latest one available to us.
A birth certificate should have both parents' names and mother's maiden name and the occupation of the father, as well as at least part of an address. If a child was illegitimate, the father's name is likely to be missing.
A marriage certificate should have the full names, occupations, ages and addresses of both partners, plus the names and occupations of their fathers. It will usually also tell you if their fathers are deceased at the time of the marriage.
Death certificates can give former occupations, ages and sometimes the name of a spouse. But they will also have an informant's name, which can be very useful as this was often another family member.
Census returns ( taken every ten years and searchable online from 1841 - 1911) give masses of information on occupations, where someone was born as well as where they were on the night of that census etc. You will often find siblings, grandparents and all sorts of other really useful information this way.
Lots of Rootschatters are very happy to help you to find these elusive ancestors so do please keep asking questions and we'll do our best to help.
Jen :)
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1901 census.
Nicholls street, Stoke
Robert Dunn Married age 35 blast furnace worker born Cheshire
Ann Dunn wife age 33 born Stoke on trent
Mary A daughter age 8 born Fenton "
Hilda daughter age 5 born Fenton "
Frank son age 4 born Fenton "
Arthur Clark age 15 step son born Hanley stoke on trent
Ada Rowlinson visitor age 13 born Cheadle.
RH13/2609/30/page 4.
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1901 census Cheadle, Baddley street.
Hezkiah Hurst Married age 39 bricklayer
Martha wife age 38
Edwin son age 14 apprentice bricklaying
Ethel daughter 11
Gladys daughter age 6
Stella daughter age 3..
RG13/2631/48/page 35.
all born cheadle
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Hi Memm
Children so far: (*)
Alf
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I can't see Ada on the 1891.
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Hi
I have been doing some investigation too. Like others, i cant find out about Ada Rowlinson parents.
What i have found is regarding Edwin Hurst parents (some of this is duplicated from previous posts)
His father:
Hezehiah or Hezekiah or Hezkiah (there seems to be variations in the spelling) middle name Richard Hurst born 1860 in Cheadle married Martha Lownds in 1886 St Giles, Cheadle and he died in 1945 aged 84.
Mother:
Martha Lownds born in 1862 married in 1886 and died in 1953 aged 90.
Hezekiah's parents were Richard & Louisa. Richard was born 1814 (ish) and was a coalminer & Louisa was born about 1815. They lived in Town End, Cheadle. But that is all i have.
Any more info is much appreciated!
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1891 Cheadle.11 Charles street.
Hezikiah age 30 bricklayer
Martha age 29 tape weaver?
Edwin son age 5
Sarah Ethel dau' age 2
Richard Father age 77? retired collier.
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Memm,
do you access to the census's
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Just the free ones that have been recomended eg. Staffordshire BMD, FreeBMD & Ancestry.co.uk (just the free part)
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1851 census Cheadle,Brook houses.
Richard Hurst age 30 collier
Louisa wife age 32
Edwin son age 12
Hannah dau' age 8
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1861 Cheadle,old tan yard.
Richard Hurst age 47 miner
Louisa wife age 43
Hannah dau' unmarried age 17 tape weaver
Enoch son age 5
Richard H son age 11 months.
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To the moderator
I did PM her with the information and I under stand about the living but as to the protection from spam identity abuse etc, are we not subject to that abuse.
Many regards
Alf
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The Rowlinson family originated from Cotton (or at least the branch you may be talking about), if you decide/decided to do the family tree PM me as I have a connection to the Rowlinson family.
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Hi Alf. I saw you had posted something about Staffordshire graveyards. I have been looking for more information about a young girl, Sarah Jane Pickering, who burned to death in Silverdale in 1864. And her father Henry Fenwick who taught school there and was quite popular, know as "The poet of the village" according to his obit in a 1975 Uttoexeter paper. (In 1872 he and family moved to Doveriddge in Derbyshire where he became manager of the cooperative, and again was quite popular. I've been trying to find anything bout his daughter's death, anything he wrote, any other records, but have very little other than the obit and a reference to his daughter's death and inquest. Sarah Jane's death certificate, #345, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, lists two words as the cause of death: "By burning" An inquest was held on 4 April 1864 by coroner W. Harding
Any wisdom about where I might look?
THanks,
Wallace