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Title: Nathan Davy PICKESS
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:32 BST (UK)

Hi  We have managed to go back to 1847 with my husbands ancestry with the marriage of Nathan Davy Pickess and Amy Abbott in May 1847  Father is listed as Johnathan Osbourne Pickess Sailmaker
Is there any way of finding out more about Johnathan IE his wife's family and Nathans siblings I realise that this may be difficult as registration only started in 1837 Any help of information prior to 1847 would be gratefully appreciated
Margaret

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:38 BST (UK)

This might be him in 1841

HO107 1034 26
Wenham

Thomas Burget 19
Edwrad Osborn 17
Nathan Pickess 13 Sailmaker  (indexed Pickell)

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: judi2632 on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:42 BST (UK)

Hi

He appears in the 1871.. Piece: 1754; Folio: 16; Page: 26

Jonathan O Pickess 1797 Mickley, Essex, England Sailmaker a widower aged 74

I will look for the 1861

Regards Judi

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:43 BST (UK)

Hello Margaret,

going from Nathan's birthplace in 1851 census, I looked at 1841-

there is this possibility:

1841

Fore Street Ipswich

Jonathan Peakess 45 yrs Sailmaker not born in county
Elizabeth Peakess 40 yrs born in county

from my Suffolk research, both Davey and Osborne are surnames from there.

heywood

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:45 BST (UK)

In 1851 he gives him place of birth as Harwich Essex
HO107 1800 95 25 - I guess you have it but shout if you want the full detials

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:47 BST (UK)

Oh this is all looking good - was just going to post Jonathan's 1851 - they have a grandaughter Elizabeth M aged 3 yrs with them.

I forgot the 1841 reference:

1841 HO107; Piece 1043; Book: 4;  Folio: 28; Page: 12

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:49 BST (UK)

This may be him as I have a copy of his indenture paper where he was apprenticed to his father as a sailmaker age 14 in 1841 his marriage certificate states he is a minor in the age section also Amy

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:52 BST (UK)

Thanks for all your help folks its certainly filling in some gaps Harwich seems to tie in as well all details would be good if possible to send Thanks

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 10:53 BST (UK)

Family Search IGI Extracted record:

Jonathan Osborn Pickess christened 20th OCtober 1793 Mistley Essex parents Jonathan Pickess and Mary.

Marriage -10th April 1792 to Jonathan Pickess to Mary Stockdale - extracted.

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 06 October 09 11:16 BST (UK)

Thank you Haywood  for your help

Forgive my ignorance but how do I go to the information to print off?  for example
HO107; Piece 1043; Book: 4;  Folio: 28; Page: 12

Thanks

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 11:22 BST (UK)

Firstly- do you have access to 1841?

If you do - then the easiest way is to search for Jonathan Peakess in 1841- only him so that's it.

Otherwise, I always find it confusing at first- just clicking 1841 and then trying to enter the reference doesn't work - you need to get to 1841 England.
I just enter a/the name which brings up choices of England/Wales and then int he English one you can enter the reference at the bottom of the search bit.
Hope you can follow me  :D

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 06 October 09 11:52 BST (UK)

Sorry I don't seem to!

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 12:09 BST (UK)

1841 doesn't give much info sadly- no relationships and adult ages are rounded up so they appear younger.
 
The information is just what I wrote earlier - nothing else.   :(

Title: Re: Nathan Davy Pickess
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 06 October 09 15:40 BST (UK)

Quote from: heywood on Tuesday 06 October 09 11:22 BST (UK)

just clicking 1841 and then trying to enter the reference doesn't work - you need to get to 1841 England.

After clicking 1841 if you then scroll down it will list all the 1841 censuses, (likewise for '51, '61 etc) so you click on England. You will then get a search page come up - put in the ref at the bottom.
(Personally I do all my searches from the individual census search page, not the general search page)
BTW this is for Ancestry, if you are using a different site it will prob be different!

Title: Re: Nathan Davy PICKESS
Post by: HJSewell on Tuesday 20 October 09 15:19 BST (UK)

Margaret, I'm also researching PICKESS in Suffolk and it's possible we may have a connection.  My great-great-grandfather was William PICKESS, b. around 1853, married to Caroline. 

I've been looking at the Nathan Davy PICKESS family in the 1861 census and I think his son William R. (age 7 in 1861) may be my William - both were born in Ipswich and the age is about right.  Unfortunately I can't find William elsewhere to confirm.  In 1891 William and Caroline were living at 1 Siloam Place, Ipswich with sons William, Edward and Daniel.

Do you have any info on Nathan's family from 1861-1891, or any other information on his children?

Regards,

Howard

Title: Re: Nathan Davy PICKESS
Post by: Margo47 on Tuesday 20 October 09 16:15 BST (UK)

Hi Howard,  I think we last communicated in 2000! The information I have at present is quite lengthy so I will send you a private message