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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: lynbear on Monday 07 March 05 07:23 GMT (UK)
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Could someone tell me where the Presbyterians buried their dead in Whitehaven in the mid 1800's?
Thanks
Lyn
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Hi ya
As far as I am aware there is no specific place for Presbyterians but I need to ask my mother she has lived here for ever let me get back
Andrew
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The main cemetery (Preston Quarter) was opened in 1855. It had a CofE chapel and a noncorformist chapel.
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I have a McKim death in 1841 and 1852 so I'm trying to chase up their burials if possible in Whitehaven.
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I found a burial of a relation by contacting the Parks department of Copeland Borough Council, who were very helpful, charged me a small sum, but I found the exact place of a family member.
They have a web site
I have an idea, let me try something, I'll be back
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Dam I couldn't find the web site I was lookiing for, did find this though:
Margaret Mckim Birth: abt 1868 - Cummersdale, Cumberland, England
Residence: 1901 - St Mary, Cumberland, England
Other: Rickergate
Source: Census - 1901 England Census
Hannah McKim Other: March 1841 - Whitehaven, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Mary McKim Other: June 1847 - Whitehaven, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Robert Stewart McKIM Birth: abt 1871
Other: June 1904 - Carlisle, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Thomas McKim Other: September 1889 - Carlisle, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
William McKim Other: March 1849 - Whitehaven, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
William McKIM Other: September 1852 - Whitehaven, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
William McKim Other: March 1894 - Whitehaven, Cumbria Cumberland
Source: Birth, Marriage, & Death - England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Any use I can look these up and get more information for you, and I may be spending time in the Whitehaven Recors Office tomorrow but can't promise
And
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Sorry Andrew I haven't been able to get back to your information as I have had PC problems and been internet challenged.
I would be interested in more information on the early ones ie 1840's and the Williams. We are still trying to work out where they originally came from. We were told Scotland.
Thanks
Lyn
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Hi Lyn,
A lot of Presbyterians came from Scotland. I think, but I'm not certain that before 1855 (when the Preston Quarter Cemetery was opened) burials took place at "The Kirk" on High St., Whitehaven-I would have to check, or maybe Andrew could? If I am right there will be a copy of the headstone inscriptions at the RO which was done several years ago but some were by then in a poor state. I hope you are lucky. I will have a look next week if I can.
Jo3
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Jo/Lyn
High Street would be St James's, I know theres very few readable stones left up there I was there again two weeks ago.
Never heard it refered to as " the kirk" I have learned something there
But I have seen a booklet in the RO with graves in
Andrew
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Hi Lyn/Andrew,
I was in the RO this morning (thought it was closed today)and my memory is terrible so I got record for McMin! I saw Andrew on his way in so hopefully he's got you the right one. "The Kirk" is at the end of High St., and although the building is now flats the graveyard still exists-I was there a few weeks ago. It was "the Scottish Presbyterian"- hence "The Kirk", so your ancestors were more than likely from over the border.
Regards
Jo3
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Ah ha
there was a seperate church "the Kirk" its a block of flats now
Andrew
Thanx Jo I never knew it existed, and to think I live around the corner
I had a quick glance and found the book of inscriptions, but I was trying to locate a lost marriage, because the RO closes in the afternoon I will have a wander up the hill to see what I can find
I'll be back in the records office on Wednesday night, I'll have a look then
Andrew
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I have a certificate for a marriage conducted in 1873 at the
"United Presbyterian Chapel, High St, Whitehaven" ... the bride was born in Ireland.
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Again thanks Jo, I had a wander up there this afternoon, it's a strange graveyard and how I've missed it when it says on the front of the flats "The Kirk" I've seen this so many times and not thought anything of it
Lyn
Didn't take any photos as the weather has been a bit "untrustworthy" to say the least today, there isn't many graves there and a quarter of the are illegible but because there are not many (less than 20) I might photgraph them all, if I see a McKim, I'll e-mail you a copy
Andrew
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found this one:
Eleanor McMin Wife of John Lindella
Died June 26th 1776
age 22 years
Thats off the gravestone I found at "The Kirk"
Bit late to go - but it wasn't quite dark, but too dark to photograph
Andrew
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Hi Jo/Andrew
Thanks for your efforts. You might be onto something here.
We assumed they were Scottish, a number of them went off to Northern Ireland in the late 1700s.
Geoff,
Who is on the marriage certificate that you have?
Cheers
Lyn
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Geoff,
Who is on the marriage certificate that you have?
Cheers
Lyn
Michael BURNS to Jane STEWART 14 Oct 1873 (he was local, she was from Ireland)
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ello
found these
March 8th 1808
Bapt Ann of William and Elizabeth McMinn, Sailor
Born Mar 28th 1804
Mar 8th 1808
Sarah of William and Elizabeth McMinn, Sailor
Born 3rd Mar 1808 (good date to be born all the best people are, not the same year though)
Mar 6th 1808
William of William and Elizabeth McMinn, Sailor
born its says 28 Jul 1808, which would be odd, so not sure
26th Oct 1815
Sarah of William and Elizabeth McMinn, Sailor
Don't know if I have given you these before, all St James
Bapt @ the Kirk
7th Jan 1875
Charles of Thomas and Mary Ann McMinn, Miller of Charles St
and in a document relating to the Kirk itself
"List of the number of pews in the chappel with their value as settled by the names who are owners there of and have recieved cornforma ?? to establish their claim for the future
No 20 value 6 - - Thos and James McMinn" do I have a photo of this? of course!!
Andrew
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Edited photo, full size better
this is to do with pews
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do I have a photo of this? of course!!
What a guy!!
;) ;) ;)
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Annie
I know .....
Always take your trusty Digiital
I thought it was an interesting piece of information, to do with family history, someone who can afford pews, gives an idea ofthe family
and cheaper than a photocopy, not as interesting just written down
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Shame we are looking for McKim ooops ;D go to bed Andrew lad