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Some Special Interests => Quaker Family History => Topic started by: onefortheroad on Saturday 03 October 09 22:12 BST (UK)
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We're on holiday from Yorkshire and staying just outside Banbury.
On a trip to the Oxford Record Office a couple of days ago, we discovered that my wifes' rellies, the Fardons, were Quakers back in the 17th & 18th centuries.
The quaker burial records give them as being buried in Banbury.
However, the current meeting house doesn't appear to have a burial ground and we can find no record of such a place in Banbury.
Does anyone have any idea as to where the early burials may have taken place ?
Many thanks,
David.
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I think Quaker Burial grounds were often away from their meeting houses. There was one at Adderbury which is not far from Banbury but that may be a red herring
David
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Thanks a lot for the reply, David.
We've checked out Adderbury, but the ancestors we are after are not there.
We'll keep looking!
Thanks again.
David.
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There is a Quaker burial ground at Sibford Gower, about 5 miles from Banbury. It is opposite and down the hill from a wonderful Cotswold pub called the Wykham Arms (the map on the pub website will help you find it: www.wykhamarms.co.uk/).
If you are still searching for info, I've probably got a contact number for one of the Friends who manages the burial ground, and might have a list of burials, but I don't want to post it publicly. I'm new to this site - is there a way to communicate 'offline'?
There is also a Quaker Boarding school at Sibford Ferris, the next village, where you might be able to find more information.
Dee
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Have a look at OFHS site to see if they have this covered with disk or fiche
Good hunting
Phil
OFHS member 4711
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There was a Quaker cemetary in Doncaster, some three miles from the meeting house. In the mid 1980s when there had been no burials there since 1931, the cemetary was cleared for redevelopment, and the remains reinterred in a special dedicated plot in the borough cemetary. It might be worthwhile contacting the municipal archive for Banbury to see whether a similar event took place there, or alternatively contact the manager of the local cemetary.
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Hi Phil and Redroger.
Thanks to you both for your replies.
We've been on the OFHS website and may follow that line although certain parts of the site have suspect security issues : As soon as I clicked the 'visit ofhs' link, I received a bogus spyware warning supposedly from Microsoft but there is no 'switch off' facility. McAfee and Norton are both incapable of stopping this ! I'm just hoping that I re-started my pc in time, if not I look like having to completely wipe the hard-drive and reinstall. I had the same thing in 2009 on a previous pc - it's evil!!! It wants to direct you to a site where you can buy anti-malware/spyware downloads. When you buy them, all you get is a computerload of viruses, trojans, and other nasties. And you cannot get rid of the warning window!
Anyway, on checking the McAfee Site Advisor, some parts of the OFHS website have not been passed as problem free. So we'll have to find a way round that one.
In September we checked with the authorities in Banbury to see if there were any Quaker burials in the municpal cemetery but apparently there aren't. It would seem that there never were Quaker burials in Banbury itself, only in the surrounding areas.
Thanks again you two for your help.
Regards, David
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I have the Witney Quaker regs from OFHS with the following Fardons (also Farndons are poss misspelling) on it:
Births:
Ann Fardon 1768
Deborah 1759
Elizabeth 1770
John 1762
Lydia 1766
Mary 1761
Mary 1764
Sarah 1774
William 1776
Ann Farndon b 1790
Elizabeth Farndon 1794
John Farndon 1799
Thomas Farndon 1783
Marriage:
1795 29 Apr RUTTER Joseph draper of Birmingham, s. John & Hannah of Witney and FARDON Sarah d. John & Elizabeth of Witney
Burials:
Mary d/o John & Elizabeth 17 Jun 1763
Mary 28 Mar 1783 age approx 19
Elizabeth 28 Jul 1786 age approx 15
Lydia 16 Mr 1788, d. John & Eliz, age 21
Ann Farndon 10 Nov 1790 d/o John & Eliz, age 22
Elizabeth Farndon w. John, shopkeeper 12 Dec 1794 age 59
John Farndon 18 Jan 1799 age 64, mercer
Thomas Farndon 13 Apr 1783 age 44
Could these help
Regards
Steph :)
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My recollection of the Doncaster Quaker burial ground is that the ground was used by Quakers from the sub-regional surrounding area, so I suggest that the search for the burial ground be made on this sort of basis. Regarding the Oxford FHS site, I hope that there is more than one member of their society who takes the matter up with their webmaster. As you say it is evil, I am not going to tempt fate by saying that so far I have been clear, but I always try not to download anything that looks in the least suspicious, like an email (now deleted) saying that my NatWest account has been compromised. Though I like the idea of on line banking, I have decided it is not for me until security issues have been resolved.
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Hi Redroger.
You are very wise not to tempt fate with your pc. And I'm not going to tempt it by saying I haven't had a repeat of the scam since yesterday......oops!
Watch out for it though and be aware that it looks for all the world like a security notification from Microsoft Windows. The tell-tale sign is in the top right-hand corner; no red box with a white cross. You can't even get rid of it by closing it from the box at the bottom of the screen (can't, for the life of me, think what they call it).
Just shut your computer down, or do a restart, immediately. All being well, it won't get the chance to do any harm.
Anyway, re the Quakers of Banbury, we suspect my wifes' rellies may have ended up in a little village burial ground about five miles from Banbury, called Sibford Gower. We're hopeful of gaining a contact for there as the folks we're looking for came from a village between Sibford and Banbury.There were also rellies in Whitney but not sure if they were Quakers.
One thing we did find whilst in the area earlier this year, was the loss of most of the detail from the headstones. They appear to have been carved in Cotswold stone (the lovely warm, yellowish stone from which many of the buildings are constructed). Unfortunately it does not seem to weather very well with the result that the M.I.'s are, to a great extent, lost.
But thanks again for your help and we wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Regards, David.
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Hi Steph.
Many thanks indeed for the registry entries for Whitney Quakers. That'll keep my wife busy for a while cross-matching. We're not sure if her Whitney rellies were in fact Quakers, but she may find something that fits. The ones that she does know were Quakers, seem to have come from the Sibford Gower side of Banbury and strangely, when they eventually moved upto Yorkshire C1900, the Quaker link dissappears.
Anyway Steph, many thanks again for your interest and efforts and we hope you have a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year.
Regards, David.
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David, Where natural stone has been used for whatever purpose it has become very liable to damage from weathering, often acid rain if it is down wind from a power station. Both York Minster and Lincoln cathedral have sustained major damage in this way; in the case of Lincoln I believe the cathedral suffered more damage since the late 1950s when West Burton, Cottam etc. power stations opened, than in the previous 800 years.Makes you think too, what is it doing to our insides?
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Thanks, Steph, I'm descended from the Rutter-Fardon marriage you list, so this surrounding detail is very interesting.
Katherine
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David, Missed the point in your earlier post that they moved to Yorkshire c1900. Doncaster archive has the Quaker records up to the closure of the cemetary, so is it worth a check maybe?
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Thanks for that, Redroger.
They moved up to the Cleckheaton area so we're hoping the West Yorkshire Archive Service at Wakefield will have the burial records. Having said that, they seem to have abandoned the Quaker religion shortly after their arrival in Yorkshire.
Sort of backs up the southern ascertion that 'them up north' are a bad influence ;D ;D ;)
David
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David, the expression about thin ice springs to mind. Don't know how you can say that when there was a Quaker graveyard at Doncaster until the 1930s. :) :o
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Heh,heh,
But Doncaster is in SOUTH Yorkshire............ ;) ;) ;D
Serious note;
it's still worth a look. :)
David
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Well worth it since I believe the graveyard accepted Quaker burials on a sub regional basis.