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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: moraf on Friday 02 October 09 10:29 BST (UK)
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Hi
I'm looking for anything on my g. grandfather, Joseph Foster.
All I have so far is;
1891. 7 Cottage Row Shildon
Joseph - 30 head - coal miner b. Ferryhill
Mary Jane - 20 wife - b. West Auckland
Jane Ann - 2 - daug. - b. Shildon
Thomas - 1 - son b. Shildon
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Moraf.
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Hello Moraf
A child's birth certificate would give you Jane's maiden name, unless you already know it
The marriage certificate should give you both fathers' names and occupations, to be certain of finding them in earlier census
possible marriage registration:
Sep 1887 Auckland 10a 281
FOSTER Joseph and on same page WADE Mary Jane
Barbara
:)
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Here's the 1901 census:
RG13 Piece 4644 Folio 113 Page 16
11 West Street, Shildon
FOSTER
Joseph 41 Ferryhill Coal Miner Hewer
Mary J 31 West Auckland
Jane A 12 Shildon
Thomas 11 "
Margaret L 8 "
Ethel 5 Spennymoor
John Wm 2 Shildon
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marriage for joseph foster and mary jane wade Sep qtr 1887 auckland 10a281
Mary Jane is with family on 1881 RG11 4926/43/17 free to search at www.familyseach.org
christening for mary jane 24th july 1870 St.Helens Auckland
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Barbara,
Thanks for that. Brilliant!
That is the correct marriage. Family legend has it that Mary Jane Wade had a cousin, Rev.Spencer Wade but I have no evidence. Also there were 2 more children to Joseph and Mary- Robert Edward (my grandfather) and Joseph.
Thanks again.
Moraf.
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Hi Moraf,
If you're certain Mary Jane's surname was Wade, that means slaw has probably found the right family in 1881 for you. To find out the Spencer Wade connection we will have to go back a bit further in the census.
Still not sure of Joseph's father's name, or do you know that already?
Barbara
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Possible 1861 census: under Forster not Foster
1861 RG9 Piece 3697 Folio 59 Page 27
Chilton Colliery Village
FORSTER
James head m 38 Yorkshire Ingleton? Coalminer
Jane wife m 26 Durham Middleton Teesdale
Thomas son 8 Shildon
John " 7 "
William " 5 "
Margaret dau 3 "
Joseph son 8 mo b. Ferryhill
Barbara
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Jane remarried, the only marriage I can see is Dec 1865 Auckland 10a 325
FORSTER Jane HOLLINGWORTH Richard
but the census shows Richard's name as HENWITCH (indexed as Abenwetch on one site and Abramovitch on another) so I'll need to check that - edit I have, and the name is (almost) right in 1881
1871 census RG10 piece 4928 folio 64 page 56
Auckland Terrace, Old Shildon
Richd HENWITCH head 44 Yorkshire, Leeds Coalminer
Jane " wife 33 Durham
Thos FORSTER step-son 18 Shildon Durham Coalminer
John " " 17 " "
Wm " " 15 " "
Margrt " step-dau 13 "
Joseph " step-son 11 Chilton, Durham
Elzth " step-dau 9 Shildon
George HENWITCH son 5 "
Ricd " " 2 "
John SPENCE lodger 13 "
in 1881 the name is Hollingsworth, and Joseph and the other children have taken their stepfather's surname, Joseph probably reverted back when he married Mary Jane Ward. Their marriage cert should show if his father was deceased
1881 census RG11 Piece 4918 Folio 54 Page 37 http://www.rootschat.com/links/077q/
16, Low Garbutt St, Shildon, Co.Durham
Barbara
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Slaw, Barbara,
Thanks for the great work.
Mary Jane was definately Wade, so the right family.
I don't have anything on the family before 1891 census.
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Your last reply seemed to come in before I posted my last one, so not sure if you saw it or not!
By 1891 Joseph's mother Jane had also died:
1891 census RG12 Piece 4070 Folio 37 Page 12
18 Low Garbutt St, Shildon
Richard Hollingsworth head widr 63 Retired Coal Miner Wortley Yorks
Isaac Hollingsworth son 15 Coal Miner Shildon, Durham
Barbara
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1881 for Mary Jane Wade, as slaw said it's free to view:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/077s/
father called Spencer Wade, so that name is obviously in the family, will trace them back to see if I can find the Rev. Spencer Wade
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1871 census RG10 Piece 4935 Folio 64 Page 64
Main Street, West Auckland, Co.Durham
WADE
Spencer head 23 Colliery Deputy York Haresforth (prob. Horsforth near Leeds)
Nancy wife 28 (called Ann in 1881)
Francis dau 2
Mary Jane " 8 months
all except Spencer born West Auckland
marriage registration:
Sep 1867 Auckland 10a 192
WADE Spencer RICHARDSON Ann (there was a David Richardson boarding with them in 1881, maybe Ann's brother)
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Mary Jane had younger brother called Spencer, maybe he became a Reverend?
You would need to maybe check the 1911 census for him to find out. You need to buy credits to do that.
1891 census RG12 Piece 4075 Folio 58 Page 53
Diamond Terrace, West Auckland
WADE
Spencer 43 Coal Miner Leeds, Yorks
Ann 48
John 22 Coal Miner
John 18 "
Thos 16 "
Elizabeth 14
Isabella 11 Scholar
Spencer 8 "
all but father born West Auckland
1901 census RG13 Piece 4652 Folio 18 Page 27
Toad Pool, West Auckland
Spencer Wade head 53 Overman Leeds
Ann " wife 58 West Auckland
Spencer " son 19 Hand Putter "
Or maybe you're hoping that this Spencer Wade is the relation, Chaplain to the armed forces?
an article written by him is here: http://ext.sagepub.com/cgi/pdf_extract/54/10/277
Barbara
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Or maybe you're hoping that this Spencer Wade is the relation, Chaplain to the armed forces?
Barbara,
the goal for the moment is to find out more about Jane and James Forster.
Regards
Moraf.
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the goal for the moment is to find out more about Jane and James Forster.
Well I think we've got quite a long way with them in a short time :)
The next step would be for you to get their marriage certificate to confirm the census information, before going any further back
Barbara :)
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Well I think we've got quite a long way with them in a short time
I agree, I really didn't anticipate such a great response.
Thanks again.
Moraf.
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If you'd like to post details of the marriage cert, if/when you get it, we'll see if we can help you further
Kind regards
Barbara :)
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James Forster was a stoneman at Shildon Lodge Colliery.
Killed by a fall of stone 20/6/1863
aged 38.
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Hi,
I went to the local library yesterday but couldn't find anything about James and Jane.
Unable to find a marriage cert. so Jane's maiden name remains a mystery. Also not sure if
the James that was killed at Shildon Lodge is my James.
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Also not sure if the James that was killed at Shildon Lodge is my James.
The only way to find out would be to look at his death cert, but it would be better to find the marriage cert first, or perhaps, as I said re the marriage of Joseph and Mary Jane, a child'd birth cert would give Jane's maiden name. You could also go for the Jane Forster/Richard Hollingworth marriage cert, but stipulate that you only want it if she was a widow. It should give you her maiden name.
Kind regards
Barbara
:)
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Hello again,
I've got a copy of marriage cert. for James Forster and Jane Bussey. February 2nd 1852
Resident at Chapel Row Old Shildon. James' father was William Forster and Janes' father was John Bussey. Married in the Church of St. John, Shildon.
Moraf.
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I was looking on Google for some info and came across "Rev Spencer Wade" He was my grandfather and certainly came from the Auckland area. His father was ?a pit manager. Am not into geneology but his dates were approx 1888-mid 1970s if I can be of more help I will.
He married Annie Hindmarch & had one son John Basil Spencer Wade born around 1919
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Hi im looking for the birth and family of my adopted dad, his name was John Robert Foster b. c1918 in Shildon (I think). He had two brothers James and Richard. Does anyone have these people in their family. (I don't know anything else about them).
Susan