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Title: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Thursday 01 October 09 14:04 BST (UK)
I am trying to locate marriage details of Thomas albert McGrath born 1905 Belfast and Nellie Hazelhurst born 1907 probably England  near Hoylake /Wirral. They both died in Australia, Thomas in '63 and nellie in '51. Their one child, a daughter (*) and may still be alive in Australia.

I have so far been unable to locate birth details for Nellie or marriage details in the UK.
Thomas was my granddads brother and was in the AIF in WW2. Photo is of Thomas & Nellie

Any help would be appreciated

Thank you

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Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 01 October 09 14:23 BST (UK)
Hi Bob,

Departed London 19 June 1936 aboard the ORSOVA They were ticketed to Melbourne

McGRATH Mrs N aged 30 Home Duties Country of last permanent residence England. Intended permanent residence in Australia. Address in UK 4 Carr Lane Hoylake Cheshire. She was not accompanied by her husband.
She was travelling with her daughter.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Thursday 01 October 09 14:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Kris for the fast reply.  I reckon that they came back for the birth of the baby and that he went back out in advance of them after she was born.  As I said I couldn't find any ref here for their marriage so reckon that they married out there. Same with Nellies birth unless Nellie is short for another name.  I have to pick away at this one now.

Thanks again
Bob
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Thursday 01 October 09 14:47 BST (UK)
Further to my first post on this, Thomas & Nellie lived in Melbourne. They subsequently assisted my Aunt & her husband when they went out on the £10 Pom scheme. Thomas never registered as an Australian (so I've been led to believe)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 01 October 09 15:00 BST (UK)
There is another arrival aboard departing London 30 Dec 1947 aboard the ORION

McGRATH Mrs N 41 not accompanied by husband. Country of last permanent residence England. Intended permanent residence in Australia. Address in UK 4 Newton Road Hoylake Wirral Cheshire
She was again accompanied by her daughter

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 01 October 09 15:09 BST (UK)
Not having much luck with Thomas.

Here is his entry from the nominal rolls

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=423397

I do note Nellie's name is spelled Hazlehurst for daughters birth but I am not seeing a marriage in UK either. Getting late in Oz, so we will probably have to wait for morning to have someone look for a marriage and deaths in Vic.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 01 October 09 15:20 BST (UK)
Much earlier but this arrival does look promising

departing London 9 Oct 1924 aboard the EURIPIDES He was ticketed to Melbopurne

McGRATH Mr Thos 19 Lab Country of last permanent residence Ireland. Intended permanent residence in Australia. Address in UK 56 Tobergill St Belfast

not spotting any other arrivals for him.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 01 October 09 15:39 BST (UK)
Looks like marriage in Vic is likely Bob.  ;D

Here we have the arrival of the unwed Nellie departing London 4 Jan 1930 aboard the OTRANTO She was ticketed to Melbourne. (Seems older than she should be but again a Hoylake address.)

HAZELHURST Miss N aged 29 a parlourmaid. Country of last permanent residence England. Intended permanent residence in Australia. Address in UK 52 Lee Road Hoylake Cheshire.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 01 October 09 21:41 BST (UK)
Hello  there Bob

Following on from Kris's good work here is the marriage

Thomas ALbert McGrath married Nellie Hazelhurst in Victoria in 1934 reg no 6651

Thomas Albert McGrath died in 1963 at Melbourne, parents unknown reg no 13215

Nellie McGrath died in 1951 aged 45 at Fitzroy parents not stated reg no 4406

You can purchase and download  the marriage certificate if you wish to find her parents names for around $18.00 Australia.  The marrige certificate will tell you where and when born and her parents names.

Registry of BMD Victoria
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

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kind thoughts Jenn
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Thursday 01 October 09 22:17 BST (UK)
Hi Tropicalj,

That is really very good of you. I kind of thought that he must have married in Australia, I con't find any detail over here in any of the records. She must have been married when she came back in Jul  '34 although she came back under her maiden name. I have a Nell Hazelhurst coming back from S Africa in 1914 aged 5 and I cannot seem to find her birth details to fit in anywhere.  I guess that a copy of the marriage cert is in order.

Thank you very much for your assistance.  I know about Thomas as he is in my maternal line direct back to 1850.

Bob
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 01 October 09 23:12 BST (UK)
I also wondered at  the possibility  that Hazelhurst may have been  a maried name as she was 28 when she married in Australia.

Jenn
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 01 October 09 23:30 BST (UK)
Hi,
Interrment details for the couple.
Interestingly, not together.

At Springvale Botanical Cemetery   
NELLIE   MCGRATH is buried   
The Service was 30/04/1951     
Location is Church of England - Monumental Compartment O Section 6 Grave 16   
Public Grave Y/N N   
Tenure Date States  "This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time "


AT Springvale Botanical Cemetery   
THOMAS ALBERT MCGRATH 
The Service  was on 30/04/1963   
 CREMATION   
Location is Boronia - Wall Niche Wall ZC Niche 145   
Public Grave Y/N N   
Tenure Date states  "In perpetuity - For all time"


Sue 
   
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 01 October 09 23:35 BST (UK)
Hi there Sue

Perhaps he had expressed a wish to be cremated?

Jenn
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 02 October 09 06:34 BST (UK)
Hi Bob

I note the 1911 census for Hoylake Nellie appears to be a part of a large family group. You will need to purchase for full entry.

HAZLEHURST John 43
HAZLEHURST Ada 40
HAZLEHURST Ada 15
HAZLEHURST Jessie 14
HAZLEHURST John 12
HAZLEHURST Nellie 11
HAZLEHURST Harry 9
HAZLEHURST Edward 8
HAZLEHURST William 6
HAZLEHURST Ester 4
HAZLEHURST Lanie 2

Nellie HAZLEHURST was born Wirral Jun 1/4 1900 8a 490

age fits well with first immigration. Perhaps she took a few years off when she met Thomas.  ;)

1901 census

RG13/3387 Folio 27 Page 4
Birkenhead Rd
Hoylake cum West Kirby


HAZLEHURST John Head b Seacombe Cheshire Market Gardener
HAZLEHURST Ada Wife 31 b Great Meols Cheshire
HAZLEHURST Elizabeth 7 b Great Meols
HAZLEHURST Ada 5 b Great Meols
HAZLEHURST Jessie 4 b Great Meols
HAZLEHURST John 2 b Great Meols
HAZLEHURST Nellie 1 b Great Meols

I think the problem was she is older than you expected

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Friday 02 October 09 09:54 BST (UK)
Hi Kris, Thats fabulous stuff - another leaf,  another branch. I had started to go back from 1907 which is the date that I had from somewhere but my eyes just started to close and off to bed I went. I have several links here who are looking into what appears to be the same family.

Thanks very much
Bob
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Michael Baillie on Saturday 26 April 14 14:18 BST (UK)
These people are my grandparents. I read this to my Mum today (she's their only child) and she's 77 and living in Melbourne. She had 5 children and my Mum seems to remember my sister being in contact with someone a few years back regarding our family history.
Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: Bob2399 on Saturday 26 April 14 16:10 BST (UK)
Hi Michael
Thank you for this message. I was indeed in touch with your sister some years ago and she gave me some family details but then her email address went down and I couldn't get in touch again. Her married name was Helen Stevens or something like that. I was gutted that I couldn't get back in touch.

My uncle and his son are both named Thomas Albert after your granddad. They also carry the name McGrath.
Our great granddad is the same man which makes us 2nd cousins except that our great grandmas were different. James McGrath was my grandad and yours was his half brother.
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Regards

Bob Cook

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Title: Re: Thomas Albert McGRATH/Nellie HAZELHURST
Post by: irw1972 on Tuesday 04 August 15 13:41 BST (UK)
they might of had a son called Samuel McGrath  1 year old, as he was buried in Belfast with a John Charters and his wife and my great great grandmother Mary Irwin.