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Can anyone help me locate the marriage of Prudence Major and Arthur Fredrick Smith
B:4 Jan 1918 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Hi,
Prudence Major and Arthur F. Smith married December Quarter, 1941 Manchester. Reference: Volume 8d page 251
Regards,
Mo
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Yes I had just found it a few minutes ago, but cannot for the life of me find her parents...
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Possible the John A Major that married Mary Bostock registered Nantwich Cheshire in 1914, but you would have to get Prudence and Alfreds marriage certificate for her age and fathers name and occupation for a start, then her birth certificate.
Mo
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Thanks I'll order that at somepoint in the future.
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Received the marriage certificate this morning of John Arthur Major and Mary Bostock 19th January 1914 St Mathew Haslington, reg Nantwich.
John Arthur Major 23 a Batchelor Fireman, 11 Henry Street, Haslington father Arthur Major Labourer.
Mary Bostock 19 a Spinster 11 Henry Street, Haslington father Alfred Bostock Dock Labourer.
Witnesses: Wilfred Charles Cartwright
Freda Wells Joseph Henry Major
Using this as a guide I have searched the 1901 census as I currently have no record of John Arthur or his parents on any of the census.
On the 1901 census I have found this information:
School Lane, Haslington
Thos Bateman Head Widower M 52 1849 Labourer (County Co), Hassall Moss, Cheshire
John Arthur Major Grand Son M 10 1891 Haslington, Cheshire,
Joseph Henry Major Grand Son M 10 1891 Haslington, Cheshire
RG13 - 3354 - 105 - 15
I think this could be the right John Arthur as the Haslington fits the marriage certificate of John Arthur and Mary Bostock :D
and more importantly Joseph Henry Major's name appears as a witness on the marriage certificate (although it does appear as Freda Wells Joseph Henry Major).
I have found him or whom I believe in 1911
Pool Farm. Haslington
Herbert Samuel Bloor Head Married 34 years M 57 1854 Farmer Dairy Cheshire Haslington
Sarah Bloor Wife Married 34 years F 54 1857 Cheshire Haslington
Louisa Bloor Daughter Single F 31 1880 Farmers Daughter Dairy Work Cheshire Wistaston
Samuel Bloor Son Single M 29 1882 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cheshire Haslington
John Major Servant Single M 18 1893 Waggoner On Farm Cheshire Haslington
Albert Parkes Servant Single M 16 1895 Cowman On Farm Cheshire Wheelock
Annie Morris Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Cheshire Coppenhall
RG14 - 21762 - RG14PN21762 RG78PN1297 RD449 SD1 ED10 SN1
Can anyone help me find them in 1891 and your comments on the above please!
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Hmmm...this is unusual? What does everyone think?
I have searched tonight for Arthur's father on the 1891 census and found him with his wife and children (twins I can't believe it again as they show up so often in the family its amazing)
School Lane, Haslington
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2854 Folio: 11 Page: 17
Arthur Major Head Married M 21 1870 Labourer In R Works Haslington, Cheshire
Sarah E Major Wife F 23 1868 Wheelock,Cheshire
John A Major Son M 0 (6M) 1891 Haslington, Cheshire
Joseph H Major Son M 0 (6M) 1891 Haslington, Cheshire
However I have also found in 1891
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2854 Folio: 11 Page: 17
School Lane, Haslington
Thomas Bateman Head Married M 42 1849 Chemical Labourer Hassall, Cheshire
Elizabeth Bateman Wife Married F 48 1843 Warburton, Cheshire
Rhoda Major Daughter Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant Haslington, Cheshire
William Major Stepson Single M 23 1868 Labourer In Railway Works Haslington, Cheshire
Frederic Bateman Son M 14 1877 Farm Servant Haslington, Cheshire
Can anyone explain the relationship between the Major's and Batemans? My head hurts?
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Therec was a marriage between an Elizabeth Major and a thomas Bateman in 1889 at Haslington
Dotty
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Hi David,
In case of headaches take two of Bursys tablets ;D
I haven`t worked it all out yet but I suspect that Thomas Batemans wife in the 1891 census was actually Arthur Major (born c.1869 ish) mother. She has knocked a couple of years off her age though ::)
Thomas Bateman married Elizabeth Major at St. Matthew Haslington in 1889. (added just seen Dotty has found the same)
If you look back for Arthur you will see that his mother Elizabeth was born Warburton as was Thomas Batemans wife in 1891. The Major family have been transcribed as Magor on the 1871 census. Arthur aged 2 ::) His father was Joseph.
Now for the tricky bit. I believe that Thomas Batemans first wife was Ann Major who he married in 1869 at St, Matthew, Haslington. I think she was Joseph Majors sister.
Regards,
Mo
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I have found Arthur Major b.1870 marriage to a Sarah Ellen Hockenhull Jun1890
Natwich, Cheshire 8a 549
That is looking like an essential purchase :-) to find Arthur's parents and to determine if Elizabeth is his sister that looks probable?
Going off Dotty's info I have found the following on the 1881 census please post your thoughts:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 3544 Folio: 92 Page: 24
Cant read the address in Haslington
Joseph Major Head Married M 43 1838 Labr Haslington, Cheshire
Elizabeth Major Wife Married F 40 1841 Warburton , Cheshire
Joseph W Major Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Haslington, Cheshire
Arthur Major Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Haslington, Cheshire
Rhoda Major Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Haslington, Cheshire
I cant find any of them or Elizabeth in 1881?
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Mosiefish I bow to you skills, how the bloody hell (sorry for the colourful language) did you find MAGOR?
1871
Village, Haslington
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3711 Folio: 41 Page: 19
Joseph Magor Head M 33 1838 Cheshire
Elizabeth Magor Wife F 30 1841 Cheshire
Elizabeth Magor Daughter F 6 1865 Cheshire
Joseph Magor Son M 4 1867 Cheshire
Aurthur Magor Son M 2 1869 Cheshire
I have found Elizabeth with her future husband in 1861 at Moss Bank Farm, Church Road, Warburton
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2592 Folio: 78 Page: 9
John Beckett Head Married M 31 1830 Farmer 132 Acres 4 Labourer Warburton, Cheshire
Mary Beckett Wife Married F 32 1829 Partington,Cheshire
James Beckett Son Unmarried M 9 1852 Scholar Dunham, Cheshire
George Beckett Son M 7 1854 Scholar Dunham, Cheshire
? Beckett Son M 5 1856 Scholar Warburton, Cheshire
Elizabeth Beckett Daughter F 2 1859 Warburton, Cheshire
Mary Beckett Mother Widow F 70 1791 Farmers Widow Warburton, Cheshire
Elizabeth Grimsditch Servant Widow F 50 1811 Dairy Maid Warburton, Cheshire
Alice Collin Servant Unmarried F 20 1841 House Servant Warburton, Cheshire
Elizabeth Richardson Servant Unmarried F 20 1841 House Servant Warburton, Cheshire
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Joseph Major Servant Unmarried M 21 1840 Farm Servant Haslington, Cheshire
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Hi,
When you can`t find what you are looking by the usual means you can use an asterisk * in place of any letters. You can search for Jos* Ma*or, born Hasli*ton or *oseph *a*or born Haslington etc. etc.
Mo
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Ann married Thomas at Haslington on the 6th May 1869. both were 21 yrs and both fathers were John
Dotty
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Found it before your post Dotty, but thank you xxxx.
I have gone on to find Ann with Thomas and her three sons
Thomas 1869 Haslington
John 1873 Haslington
and Fredrick 1876 Haslington.
I have also found a marriage of Joseph and Elizabeth who later went on to marry Thomas Bateman.
Marriages Dec 1863
Major Joseph Altrincham 8a 253
Richardson Elizabeth Altrincham 8a 253
I am struggling to find out why Elizabeth remarried the husband of her sister-in-law did Ann Major die? I cant find her death?
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Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
Bateman Thomas Nantwich 8a 425
Major Elizabeth Nantwich 8a 425
I wonder why she kept the major name rather than using her maiden name? Is this usual?
In 1891
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2854 Folio: 11 Page: 17
School Lane, Haslington
Thomas Bateman Head Married M 42 1849 Chemical Labourer Hassall, Cheshire
Elizabeth Bateman Wife Married F 48 1843 Warburton, Cheshire
Rhoda Major Daughter Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant Haslington, Cheshire
William Major Stepson Single M 23 1868 Labourer In Railway Works Haslington, Cheshire
Frederic Bateman Son M 14 1877 Farm Servant Haslington, Cheshire
Elizabeth is living with Thomas and her two children (Joseph) William Major and Rhoda Major from her first marriage to Joseph and Frederic Bateman youngest and third child of Thomas's first wife Ann Major (sister of Joseph).
The children were therefore cousins and then step brothers/sisters...LOL! Very weird...wouldn't you agree?
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I am related to the Major/Richardson family from Sandwich & Warburton Joseph & Betsy met at Becketts farm in warburton both servants.They married in 1863 in Altrincham,their daughter Elizabeth Hannah born Sandwich 1865 she married Stephen Moore these are my great grandparents cheers Chris
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Sorry Betsy was born in warburton cheshire to Hannah Richardson 1802 Timperley,Betsy,s brother was called Samuel