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Title: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Tuesday 29 September 09 17:43 BST (UK)
I have been researching the marriage of George Robertson and Margaret Cockburn in 'Wemys', Fife whose first child, Charles, was born 28/9/1733.  The only marriage I can find is between George Robertson and 'Christian' Cockburn on 15/12/1732.  On the same page of the register of about 10 marriages, there are 3 other brides called 'Christian'.  Does anyone know whether this was a legitimate forename and, if not, why this forename was used?  Could this be the marriage I'm looking for?
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 29 September 09 17:48 BST (UK)
Hello Kit,

Christian was a very popular/common name - just as popular as Margaret, Janet etc.

I believe it was inter-changeable with Christina but in my own personal research, it's either been one or the other.

Anne
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Tuesday 29 September 09 18:00 BST (UK)
Hi Anne,

Thanks for your reply.  I really had hoped that it could be my Margaret, although I'm not giving up hope yet!  Kit
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: ev on Tuesday 29 September 09 18:58 BST (UK)
hi all  :)

agree with what anne has stated
i've also seen it as Christine on some records

ev
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: don_niagara on Tuesday 29 September 09 21:47 BST (UK)
Hiya,

very popular in Wester Ross,... Gaelic form of the name was "Ciorstaig", so also watch for variants "Chirsty", "Christy", and "Tina".

Donald.

(son of Donald, son of Ross, son of Christina)
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Tuesday 29 September 09 22:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your responses.  Looks like I'm onto a loser with Margaret then. Kit
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 29 September 09 22:30 BST (UK)
How about Caristiona.....Skoosh
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Tuesday 29 September 09 23:21 BST (UK)
Mmmm, still not Margaret
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: ostler on Wednesday 30 September 09 21:48 BST (UK)
I've seen Christian and Christina being interchangeable too.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 30 September 09 21:59 BST (UK)
In many cases the minister recorded the marriage after the event and mistakes were made in remembering the name. He could have got mixed up with the other Christians listed on the record.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Thursday 01 October 09 01:57 BST (UK)
Thanks all for the input.  Non the wiser but still hopeful that it might have been an oversight.  I'll need to back my research up.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Clare Fowler on Wednesday 07 October 09 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I've got the name Christian in my tree various times.  For one of my ancestors, she seems to go between Christian and Catherine especially on census records.

Cheers,
Clare
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 07 October 09 18:40 BST (UK)
Strangely I've have only ever come across the name Christian as a male forename. This in Yorkshire 1970's.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 07 October 09 23:06 BST (UK)
What about  Christian Dior?.....Skoosh.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Clare Fowler on Thursday 08 October 09 11:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

Some background on the name Christian that I have found...

http://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?search_name=Christian&search_sex=F&action=search&Submit=Submit

Cheers,
Clare
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 08 October 09 17:23 BST (UK)
But he's French Skoosh, I was referring to English people.
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 21 October 09 13:11 BST (UK)
Hi Kit,

Trying to answer your original question is Margaert and Christian Cockburn the same person, my answer is no.

Did a search on LDS site, and Christian was born 09 Apr 1711, baptised 15 Apr 1711 to parents James Cockburn and Margaret Couper. 2 years later, Margaret Cockburn was born 14 Aug 1713 baptised 23 Aug 1713 to same parents, so they are sisters. These are both extracted records so appear to be genuine.

Hope this answers your query.

Tom
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 21 October 09 13:23 BST (UK)
Hi Kit,

Here is the full family according to the IGI,

James Cockburn married Margaret Couper 26 Sep 1707 in Wemyss, Fife (Extracted record on IGI)

They had the following children, all extracted records on IGI,

Helen Cockburn b 05 Oct 1708 bap 08 Oct 1708 Wemyss, Fife (early death)
Christian Cockburn b 09 Apr 1711 bap 15 Apr 1711 Wemyss, Fife
Margaret Cockburn b 14 Aug 1713 bap 23 Aug 1713 Wemyss, Fife
Helen Cockburn b 06 Aug 1716 bap 12 Aug 1716 Wemyss, Fife
Isabell Cockburn b 31 Aug 1718 bap 07 Sep 1718 Wemyss, Fife
John Cockburn b 02 Feb 1720 bap 05 Feb 1720 Wemyss, Fife
James Cockburn b 16 Mar 1723 bap 17 Mar 1723 Wemyss, Fife

Tom
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 21 October 09 13:42 BST (UK)
Hi Kit,

I think you have the correct marriage for Christian, I have found the correct one for Margaret, I think.

James Laverock married Margaret Cockburn 23 May 1735 in Wemyss, Fife (Extracted record on IGI)

They had the following children, all extracted records on IGI,

Peter Laverock b 20 Oct 1737 bap 23 Oct 1737 Wemyss, Fife
James Laverock b 14 Jan 1739 bap 21 Jan 1739 Wemyss, Fife
William Laverock b 03 Jan 1741 bap 04 Jan 1741 Wemyss, Fife

Tom
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: KitCarson on Wednesday 04 November 09 21:47 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to all who have responded.  Thanks to Clare for the link and to Tom for looking up the IGI (didn't think to do that!).  I'm sure I'll be back again soon with more queries and hope you'll all be kind enough to help once more.  Kit
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: GB-Dundee on Thursday 27 January 11 11:45 GMT (UK)
If anyone is rearching the Laverocks who are mentioned in this thread, please get in touch.

Grant
Title: Re: 'Christian' as forename - Marriage in Weyms 1732
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 29 January 11 13:44 GMT (UK)
Christian was a very popular/common name - just as popular as Margaret, Janet etc.
I believe it was inter-changeable with Christina but in my own personal research, it's either been one or the other.

I have found lots of them using it interchangeably. Older records tend to have Christian and later ones tend to have Christine/a. I don't think it's interchangeable with Margaret though.