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Title: John DICKMAN
Post by: Ingham on Tuesday 29 September 09 07:10 BST (UK)
Have only recently learned more of this branch of my family.  My great grandfather was JOHN DICKMAN, who married ANN LOVELOCK-EYLES in Pewsey in 1840.  John and Ann had 8 children, and in  1855,  sadly, on way to Australia, Ann died and was buried at sea.  1856, John married Ann's sister Jane LOVELOCK, in Adelaide, South Australia,  They also had 8 children, the 4th being Anna Elizabeth, my grandmother.  Anything I can learn about either the DICKMAN or LOVELOCK  families would be great.
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 29 September 09 08:57 BST (UK)
Have you got the marraige cert (1840)
That would be the first thing to do, as would hopefully give both their father's names and occupations

the ref is -
Oct/Nov/Dec 1840
Pewsey ref 8 705
John Dickman (one of brides on same page Anne Lovelock Eyels.)

Have you found John and Ann on the 1841/1851 censuses before they went to Australia? If not, just shout and I will look.
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: Ingham on Wednesday 30 September 09 04:31 BST (UK)
Dear Lizdb,

Thanks for you reply.  A second cousin twce removed, whom I have only recently had contact with, has given me lots of details, but she hasn't got the marriage certificate, so I will send off for that.  Thanks for the ref. details.   Also can I please "yell" all the way from Australia, and ask you to look at the census records for me.

Ingham from Oz
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 30 September 09 15:45 BST (UK)
Loud n Clear!

but finding them is not proving so easy!

This looks like 1841, as newly weds:
HO107 1180 14
Bowling alley?
Pewsey

John Dickman 20 labourer bn in county
Ann 20 not bn in county

but I cant yet spot them in 1851 ....  do you know the names of any of the children from this marriage?
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 30 September 09 15:49 BST (UK)
Silly me, must have lost my touch as here they are in 1851

HO107 1844 228 3
Pewsey Parish, Pewsey

John 32 Ag lab
Ann 33
Sarah 7
James 6
Henrietta 1

all bn Pewsey
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: Ingham on Thursday 01 October 09 04:15 BST (UK)
Thanks for confirmation of details given to me by long lost cousin. I will try and  do some more research myself, going backwards, but don't know how I will go.

Ingham from Oz
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 02 October 09 01:16 BST (UK)
Hi Ingham

As Liz has mentioned the first step will be to get a copy of the marriage certificate to ascertain their fathers names. Liz has provided the details.

I wonder if this may be the Lovelocks.

1841 census

HO107/1180/14 Folio 26 Page 15
HollyBush Lane
Pewsey


LOVELOCK James 45 Y Carpenter
LOVELOCK Hannah 44 Y
LOVELOCK Martha 14 Y
LOVELOCK Harriet 12 Y
LOVELOCK Jane 10 Y
LOVELOCK Sarah 6 Y
LOVELOCK James 1 Y

1851 census

HO107/1844 Folio 213 Page 1
HollyBush Lane
Pewsey


LOVELOCK James Head 58 Mar b Milton Carpenter
LOVELOCK Hannah Wife 57 b Wilcot
LOVELOCK James son 11 b Pewsey

I note Hannah born Wilcot so this may be Jane out of county

HO107/1755 Folio 124 Page 15
Market Place
Woburn
Bedfordshire


In the large household of George HALL 79 b Woburn retired Baker

LOVELOCK Jane servant 19 b Wilcott Servant

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/lismoyne1855.htm

James LOVELOCK was baptised 24 Feb 1793 Milton Lilborne parents William and Mary.

IF this is the correct family it appears you would be needing to look at the parish registers for Pewsey and Wilcot

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: John DICKMAN
Post by: Ingham on Saturday 03 October 09 05:06 BST (UK)
Thanks Kris,

I see I have some work to do in the days ahead, but it will be interesting.  What a pity this genealogy business is not as easy as it appears to be on "Who do you think you are?', but I will keep plodding along, with the help of my friends. whom I have met on Rootschat.

Meryl   -   Ingham of Oz.