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Title: John Graham
Post by: MMC52B on Sunday 27 September 09 20:06 BST (UK)
Please does anyone know anything of John GRAHAM, an iron foundry pattern maker, born in1814 in Rothwell, and/ or his children, William, born 1835 in Bradford, Sarah, born 1846 in Leeds, John, born 1848 in Limehouse and Edwin, born 1852 in Poplar.  I would be very grateful for a lead on this family.
MMC52B
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: AMBLY on Sunday 27 September 09 20:44 BST (UK)
Hi MMC528

To avoid us duplicating what you may already know - have you already got Census etc  for these people?

What kinds of leads are you looking for?

Cheers  :)
AMBLY
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 22:54 BST (UK)
1851 Census.  Living Poplar.

John Graham     37  Engineer born Yorks
Sarah Graham    38  Yorks
William Graham  15 Bradford
Joseph Graham     14 Bradford
Sarah Graham    5 Yorks
John Graham    2  London
Mary Graham    1 London
Henry Graham    25 (John Graham’s brother)  Engineer born Yorks. 
All below Enginneers , born Yorks, visitors.
Charles Shaw    29
John Hargreaves    24
Henry Siddle    25
Abraham Hemingway    23
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 22:59 BST (UK)
In 1841, Rothwell, there's just John, William and Joseph, no Sarah - I wonder if she's his 2nd wife?

Here's baptisms for John and brother Henry.

John Graham baptised 23/5/1813 Rothwell, parents William and Mary.
Henry Graham baptised 24/6/1824 Rothwell, parents William and Mary.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 23:06 BST (UK)
From igi.  Baptisms for William and Joseph.  As  I suspected , it appears Sarah was his 2nd wife.
William Graham 30/8/1835 Rothwell, parents John and Ann
Joseph Inman Graham 9/7/1837, Rothwell, parenta John and Ann
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 23:10 BST (UK)
A marriage for John and Ann.

John Graham to Ann Inman, 15/6/1834, Rothwell.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 23:14 BST (UK)
Living next door to John in 1841.  All born Yorks.  William was a joiner.

William Graham     70
Mary GrahamSenr.    54
Mary GrahamJunr.    30
Henry Graham    17
Samuel Graham    15
Thomas Graham    20
Edwin Graham    12
Emma Graham    10
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: libby9 on Sunday 27 September 09 23:44 BST (UK)
The above info should keep you busy for a while.  Let us know what other info you'd like. :)
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: MMC52B on Tuesday 29 September 09 18:20 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your help.  Anything I can learn about any of this family would be useful.
MMC52B
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: Holmemoss on Tuesday 29 September 09 21:21 BST (UK)
Hello MMC52B
I can see from the number of your posts that you are relatively new to rootschat. I am quite new too and there are a lot of people on here who have been very helpful to me. I have always tried to look things up for myself first (not always successfully!) and forgive me if I am preaching to the converted but:

familysearch.org has transcripts of births, marriages and some burials pre-1837 for Engalnd and a free transcript of the 1881 census.

freebmd.org.uk has births, deaths and marriages from 1837 onwards

genuki.org.uk has a lot of background information on parishes, churches, etc.

All of this is free. Again, forgive me if I am telling you what you already know.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: MMC52B on Wednesday 30 September 09 17:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply.  Yes, I am aware and have used the online sources you mention.  I have, however, had real problems in tracing my father's family, the Grahams, due in part because he seems to have given false information about himself.  I am beginning to wonder whether his marriage to my mother may have been bigamous and he was anxious that his first, possible wartime, marriage was not traced.  I would really like to find other descendants of the Rothwell Graham family who may have additional information.  It was kind of you to post.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: Holmemoss on Thursday 01 October 09 12:16 BST (UK)
Hello MMC52B
Are you talking about a marriage during World War II? If so, no-one is likely to post about this for privacy reasons as the people you are looking for may be living.

I don't think the FreeBMD has been transcribed for the 1940s yet but if you subscribe to ancestry then you will be able to search for appropriate marriages. Sorry I can't help as my ancestry subscription has expired.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: MMC52B on Thursday 01 October 09 18:12 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply.  No, it would have been around 1917-20 and would have been between William Albert Graham (who was born in Stratford, London but whose roots were in Yorkshire) and?  I have obtained a couple of marriage certificates which proved not to be the right William....  My father died in 1972.
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: Holmemoss on Thursday 01 October 09 18:24 BST (UK)
Have you any idea where they may have married?
Title: Re: John Graham
Post by: MMC52B on Friday 02 October 09 17:18 BST (UK)
I am afraid not, nor even if he did marry before 1935 (when he married my mother) but it would explain why he tweaked various dates.  Thanks for your interest.