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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: macbeth on Sunday 27 September 09 06:25 BST (UK)
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I'm attempting to do this from Australia, which can be very frustrating! Plus I' a newbie :-)
Trying to find marriage and further connections for my GGGrandparents in Londonderry.
Names are William MCILMOIL and Elizabeth Chambers CAMPBELL. As per several Scotland censuses (?) censi (?), they were born in Ireland in 1825 and 1827 respectively. It appears they moved from Ireland to Dunbarton in Scotland sometime between 1849 and 1851. On a daughter's birth in 1862 they are recorded as having being married on 12 March 1845 in Balteagh, then on another child's birth the marriage details are 12 March 1845 in Newtown Limavady.
Thanks to ScotlandsPeople I have their death info, which gives William's father's name as Samuel McIlmoil, occupation farm labourer, and Elizabeth's parents as John Campbell, occupation land steward, and Jane Chambers.
There was some research done in the 1980's by the Ulster Historial Foundation for us, which did not give a lot of joy, as the following results indicate:
Pres. Minister of Balteagh searched and failed to find anything.
The Rev from 1st Limavady Pres. Church found that there was info from 1845, searched 1845 - 1850 and found nothing
The Rev from 2nd Limavady Pres. Church found that the first recordings start at 22 May 1845.
The Rev from Drumachose and Derramore Pres. Church found that Drumachose start in June 1845 and those of Derramore start in May 1845.
There are a couple of McIlmoils on the Griffith Valuatios, and quite a few John Campbells. but I have no idea if they are relevent or not. or how to acertain it.
I would not be surprised if the McIlmoil name was something different, as it has morphed into McMiles here in Australia, they seemed to change names in those days on a regular basis!
So, if anyone has any thoughts on what step I should take next, I would be very grateful.
Thanks very much.
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Hi,
Welcome to Rootschat. I have found one marriage which, if correct, throws your dates a bit.
18 Dec 1835 John Campbell married Jane Chambers in Christchurch Church of Ireland, Drumachose Parish, Newton Limavady (now called Limavady).
John Campbell is a very common name in the area but Chambers is less so.
Regards
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Thanks for that, kingskerswell,
I have looked at a number of copies of the original birth details via ScotlandsPeople and it is pretty clear that William & Elizabeth say they were married in March 1845 in all of them.
I have the oldest child of them born in abt 1846 in Ireland, and my GGrandfather born in Dunbarton in 1856. They went on to have 9 children, the last in 1867.
Would there be any way to acertain if this marriage you've found is one of the ones I am looking for? Perhaps they had children and then got married later? Dunno if that was common practice.
At least with Chambers marginally less common I might have some sort of chance, I guess.
I'll just keep plugging away at the old brick wall!
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I would look to the spelling of McImoil as McIlmoyle as my parents were friends with an Edward McIlmoyle who emigrated to America in the 70's but originated from Londonderry Northern Ireland.
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I know this is later than your search but there was a Reverend RJ McILmoyle minister in the Reformed Presbyterian Church orginally from Limavady.
Could they be ' Convenanters'. He was in Faughan Reformed Church in 1929.
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The Rev McIlmoyle preached in Dervock Reformed Presbyterian Church and was also a well known sheep breeder and exhibited his 4 legged flock at agricultural shows.
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My maiden name is McIlmoyle. I live near the church you mentioned - Balteagh and there are 2, the Parish or Church or Ireland and the Presbyterian. Balteagh is approximately 6 miles from Limavady and from my own family research most of the marriages are attributed to the Balteagh Parish/Church of Ireland during early 1800's. I notice most of your research with ministers was of the Presbyterian connection so perhaps you might have researched the wrong church??
The Rev RJ McIlmoyle mentioned here was my father's cousin and there was a book produced about his famous sheep both animal and in the ministry! However I think the McIlmoyle's you might refer to came from Ardgarvan, Limavady and are a different connection altogether.
Sorry to not be any more help - your dates are quite early 1800's and it is difficult to go back as far as that because of the destruction of a lot of records.
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Terrydo 73
Whilst prowling through rootschat I came across your posting, where you mention Balteagh Presbyterian church. I had been given to understand that there was only a Balteagh C. of I. The ancestor I'm searching for is a William Gibson of Carrick - he was Presbyterian. His son Alexander Gibson b 1833 m'd in Bovevagh C. of I. but I can find no record of his baptism, in C. of I. records, and being Presbyterian, living at Carrick, maybe his baptism was in Balteagh Pres'n. The purpose of all this is - can you tell me the minister of Balteagh Pres'n church and address, so maybe I can get him to look in his records for this family. Thank you, in anticipation of your reply. Betsy Harper.
ModeratorNote: spaces added between punctuation/words to make post easier to read
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Agnetta,
The Presbyterian congregation of Balteagh was formed in 1823 and the first minister was appointed in 1824. The church is situated in the townland of Lislane. Before this many of the Presbyterians worshipped in Drumachose Presbyterian Church in Limavady. This church is unusually built in the shape of a cross where one arm of the cross was known as the Balteagh Isle.
I think that marriage and baptism records are much later than 1824
Regards
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For Reference, records for church available at PRONI
Presbyterian church Balteagh
Baptisms, 1868-1932; marriages, 1845-1936;
communicants’ register, 1890-1957; treasurers’
notebook and receipts, 1832-46.
Marriage notice book, 1861-75.
microfilm no. MIC1P/228; D2383
regards
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For Reference, records for church available at PRONI
Presbyterian church Balteagh
Baptisms, 1868-1932; marriages, 1845-1936;
communicants’ register, 1890-1957; treasurers’
notebook and receipts, 1832-46.
Marriage notice book, 1861-75.
microfilm no. MIC1P/228; D2383
Coleraine Library also has this microfilm (box #74). Booking a microfilm reader ahead of time is advised.
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Kingskerswell and Joemc many thanks for info. It obviously wouldn't help to contact Balteagh - years are too late for my query.
Agnetta/Betsy Harper
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1828 'census' of Balteagh Presbyterian Church shows a John Campbell head of family with un-named wife and children - William, Joseph, Eliza, Susanna and Eleanor. The address was Drumagosker, Balteagh. No McIlmoyle family in the census [source Irish Genealogist; Vol 13 no 2, 2011 page 136]
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I have a McElmoyle family emigrated to Carbon County, Pennsylvania in 1873, Hugh McElmoyle (father Samuel) married Margaret Hodge (father William) February 6, 1849 in Newtown, Limavady.
Children William, Ella, Jane, Margaret, Hugh, Henry, James Alexander, Samuel, Robert and Martha.
I have all children except Ella or Ellen in Pennsylvania as well as Immigration records, not sure if she married and stayed behind. I have been unable to get back any further than Hugh born 1825 and Margaret born 1826.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Bonnie Paton Pietruch
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My family married 1850 in Newtownlimavady District, they were found on the 1861 Census Wishaw Lanarkshire Scotland. Is there a ship or passenger list showing their immigration please? Would they have come directly to that part of Scotland or would they have landed somewhere north? Thankyou for any help.
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Ireland was part of the U.K. as was Scotland so no records were kept for people travelling between the two countries.
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Hi Thankyou for your reply, I just didnt think. Do you know what kind of ship travelled at that time to Scotland would it have been a ferry? I cant find them in Ireland living between their marriage 1n 1850 and their arrival in the 1861 census in Wishaw. Never mind at least I know what period of time they came over and when they had their first child.... my two G G Grandfather!