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Looking for Whittakers from Strabane areas of County Donegal in the 1700/1800's
Thanks
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Would anyone be able to look up a
William Whittaker/Whitteker/Whitager who would have been about 17 in the 1901 Irishplease?
He was born in Strabane in County Donegal in 1881.
Parents David and Eliza (Spence) from Sheercloon in Clonleigh/ Milltown in Raphoe and Beltony at the time of Williams birth.
Thanks very much.
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Hi there,
I am moving this topic into the County Donegal board where it will be seen by those with expertise in the area.
Good Luck,
Kazza.
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Can anyone please help to find a
William Whittaker (Whittaker/Whitager) and his family. He was born in Strabane in Ireland and lived in County Donegal to most of my knowledge. He would have been about age 7 in 1891.
In 1901 he was in Scotland aged 19.
Parents David and Eliza.
With thanks
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You may not have known, but probably do now, that there are no censuses available for most of Ireland before 1901. They were destroyed in 1922.
Your have a couple of options:
if you know a location, check church records and
as he was born in 1895 a birth cert would be available.
www.groni.gov.uk
Rachel
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OOps! I forgot I was in Donegal. My suggestion to Theresa of
www.groni.gov.uk
applies to Northern Ireland.
For Donegal you need GRO in Dublin.
Apologies
Rachel
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Looking for any Whittaker/Whitager's from County Donegal in the 1800/1900's please?
Areas involved include Strabane, Clonleigh, Milltown, Raphoe, Sheercloon, Beltony,Creaghadoos/Taughboyne/Castlefin/Stranorlar/Mountmellick
Other surnames in same areas:
Spence/Hamilton
Does anyone know of any graveyards in Sheercloon where some may be buried?
Thanks for any help.
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Would sks be able to tell me where and what the Parish church for Sheercloon would have ben in the 19th C. For C of I?
Did it have a graveyard and is it still there?
Looking for Whittaker (Whitager sic) family.
Thank you
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Hello. Would SKS be abel tot ell me if there is or was a Parish Church for C of I in Castlefin, one which would be near Sheercloon in the 19th Century?
Does it have a graveyard?
Looking for the Whittaker (Whitager sic) family.
Thank you
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Does anyone know if there are:
Births - before 1864
Marriages - before 1845
Deaths - before 1864
for County Donegal please?
The LDS near me only have them FROM these dates.
Can they be looked up?
Seeking ancestors in the Sheercloon/Clonleigh/Castefin areas.
Thanks
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Google search came up with this
http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/county/donegal/donpres.html
Castlefin is served by the Donoughmore Church. There is a link on the site to email County Donegal
Presbyterian Church Records
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If anyone can help with the above census' please can you look for anything on the family of "Spence" from Milltown or Beltony or along the way any "Whittaker/Whitager sic" from Beltony, Sheercloon. Thanks
especially the following in 1901:
James Spence (and family in Beltony) in 1911 he was a horse trainer - married to Mary and he was aged 45.
Henry/Henery Spence - same - in 1911 he was a labourer aged 35
and in 1911
John Spence - same - in 1901 he was a Flux Scutcher age 35
The Spence family were a large family so hopefully they are all in the same area.
They were all born in County Donegal.
Thanks again
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I am not sure whether you are Australian or not, but my family were Whittakers from County Donegal. If you are Australian, then we are probably related. If you are American, I would be happy to tell you what I know (part of our family did go to America).
I look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Rennison Whittaker
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Searching for the Whittaker/Whittager families, can anyone help please?
Thomas Whittager and wife Sarah - married in Strabane in 1866
known children
William James born 1870 in Raphoe
Matilda Catherine born 1867 in Raphow
Any of them would be great and any others that you come across along the way - many thanks.
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Can anyone possibly help me in trying to find some births of three siblings please?
According to the 1901 and 1911 census they were born in "Co Donegal".
Barbara/Barbra was 35 in 1901 (b.c. 1866)
In 1911 she was 58 (b.c. 1853)
A possible death for a Barbara Whittaker in 1941 in Stranorlar, she was 86 (b.c. 1855)
William was 33 in 1901 (b.c. 1868)
In 1911 he was 55 (bc. 1856)
A possible death for him in 1933 in Stranorlar was 78 (b.c. 1855).
The only death I have found for a David Whittaker happened in Ayr in Scotland and he was 60 in 1900 (b.c. 1840). But he was in Strabane in 1884 and in Raphoe in 1877.
Their parents I am guessing married in th 1840's but I haven't gone through any parish records to find out as I don't know where to start!
Whittaker was also spelt Whittekar/Whitager/Whittager etc.,
I hope sometime may be able to help as I am having no luck and my nearest LDS centre is some way away to keep going to.
Any info on any Whittakers along the way would be useful too. Many thanks for any help.
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this is all from BVRI
WHITAGER, Matilda Catherine Bir 1867 Irel Done
Fa: Thomas WHITAGER
Mo: Sarah RUTHERFORD
WHITTAGER, Thomas Bir 1868 Irel Done
Fa: James WHITTAGER
Mo: Mary Jane BROWN
WHITTAGER, Maria Bir 1869 Irel Done
Fa: James WHITTAGER
Mo: Mary Jane BROWNE
WHITTAGER, Robert John Bir 1870 Irel Done
Fa: James WHITTAGER
Mo: Mary Jane BROWN
WHITTAGER, William James Bir 1870 Irel Done
Fa: Thomas WHITTAGER
Mo: Sarah RUTHERFORD
audrey
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the only marriages in Donegal
COLL, Hugh Age: 22 Marriage
Wife: Catherine WHITAKER Age: 21
Marriage Date: 7 Nov 1851 Recorded in: Taughboyne, Donegal, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: Daniel COLL
Wife's Father: James WHITAKER
WHITTAKER, James Marriage
Wife: Mary Jane BROWN Age: 18
Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1852 Recorded in: Taughboyne, Donegal, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: James WHITTAKER
Wife's Father: Arthur BROWN
audrey
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I forgot to "marry up" William with Sarah - if it is him...
William John Whittaker to a Sarah Nabbs/Nobbs
before or in 1891 and probably Strabane.
I have found a marriage of a William John Whittaker in Gortin in the December quarter of 1883 but I forgot to look for Sarah Nabbs/Nobbs in the same quarter - would anybody be going to the LDS that would have time to look for me please?
Also any other info. ie. in the census of 1901 and 1911
Plumridge in Strabane.
Children included: Sarah, Margaret, Lizzy, Annie, Matilda and Samuel.
Any other Whittaker marriages along the way would also be welcome.
Many thanks for any info.
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If sks has access to the census' please would they try and find:
Thomas and Sarah Whittager who were in Strabane, Raphoe.
Children were William James and Matilda Catherine.
and
William John and Sarah Whittaker who were in Strabane - Plumridge.
and
James and ... Whittaker whose children included Catherine and James - probably Taughboyne or Raphoe.
Also any Whittaker/Whittager etc., that come along in the same areas. Many thanks.
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Does sks know if there were Electorial rolls taken from the 1800's to 1941?
Are they accessible to anyone or are they online?
Looking for any Whittaker/Whittagers in the Strabane and Co. Donegal areas areas up to 1941. And Spence in Co Donegal (Milltown area in the 1800's)
If any one can help please?
Thanks
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Hello Theresa,
The most likely place to find these directories would be -
The National Archives,
Bishop Street,
Dublin 8,
Phone +353 4072300
Best Wishes, Christopher
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Hi Theresa
Iwas able to get a copy of my great grandfather's marriage certificate. He was married in Strabane. I can give you a contact number if you are interested.
Louise
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Hi Theresa
I was in several C of I graveyards today, Donaghmore, Stranorlar and Convoy. I'm sure I saw Whittaker's in either Donaghmore or Stranorlar. I would be willing to go and have another look for you if you want to give me some details. Can't guarantee anything but will give it a go.
Louise
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If anyone is going to Proni and can look up some pension information for me it would be great...
The people are
Martha Whittaker born c. 1820 and died 1912 in Strabane (Castlefin)
aged 109!
William Whittaker b.c. 1868, alive in 1912 but died possibly1933 aged 78 in Stranorlar
Barbar Whittaker b.c. 1866 and who died in Stranorlar possbily in 1941 aged 86.
Sarah Whittager who died in Stranorlar in 1928 age 53 and b.c. 1875
Matilda also Straorlar age 66 in 1932
All were born in Co Donegal.
Thanks for any help however small.
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Hi - I have found a marriage of a Thomas Whittager (Whittaker) and Sarah Rutherford in St Johnston and wondered if anyone knows of any MI's for the graveyard or if anyone can look out for any gravestones with the surname of please?
It was in the parish of Taughboyne in 1866.
Many thanks
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Hi - can anyone help me in trying to find births/baptisms from the years 1840 to 1864 please?
Areas would probably include Beltony, Clonleigh, Sheercloon, Milltown, Stranorlar, Raphoe and Strabane.
Looking for the births of any Whitakers (sic) but also
David, William and Barbara Whittaker
and
Eliza/beth Spence (possibly Milltown)
Thanks for any help.
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Hi - can anyone help me in trying to find births/baptisms from the years 1840 to 1864 please?
Areas would probably include Beltony, Clonleigh, Sheercloon, Milltown, Stranorlar, Raphoe and Strabane.
Looking for the births of any Whitakers (sic) but also
David, William and Barbara Whittaker
and
Eliza/beth Spence (possibly Milltown)
Thanks for any help.
no Whitaker found Donegal on BVRI
2 Elizas 1869 and 1873 any good?
audrey
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Hi - I'm looking for any Whittaker/Whittager's in the Stranorlar area in the above census if anyone can help please?
Many thanks
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If anyone has any info. on Whittaker/Whittagers in Co. Donegal I would be interested to know about.
Thanks
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Hi
Can anyone help me in trying to track down a couple of elusive ancestors of mine please?
The earliest info. I have is:
David Whitaker/Whittager (sic) who married Eliza Spence in August 1877.
His place of residence at the time was Sheercloon in the Parish of Clonleigh.
His father was William.
Both were labourers.
David was of full age.
He marrid in the Church of Raphoe.
Eliza was also of full age.
Her place of residence was Milltown in the Parish of Raphoe.
Her parents were Alexander and Mary Jane Spence.
I have them again in August 1884 having a son William Whitager in Beltony in Raphoe in Strabane.
David was Whittager.
They were residing in Beltony at the time.
Would there be any directories or anything at all that I probably don't know about that they all might be listed in before/after and during the years 1877 and 1884?
I haven't been able to find the births as I think they will be in Parish registers. I do know Eliza remarried in 1900 to Patrick Coyle in Stranorlar as a widow.
Any help to find my elusive g.g and g.g.g. grandparents would be brilliant.
Many thanks and happy new year.
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Hi
I have found my David Whittaker/Whittager marrying in the Church of Raphoe in August 1877.
He states his place of residence at the time as in Sheercloon in the Parish of Clonleigh.
Would there be any records for around that date that may track him down?
I don't know where he was born, could he have come from Sheercloon, how can I find out?
Any suggestions, most welcome as I am trying all sorts of different avenues in order to track them down!
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Hi
I am looking for the families of Whittaker/Whittager and Spence who I know were in the Beltony area in August 1884 and beyond (maybe before too).
Their names were
David, Eliza/beth and William (b. 1884) Whitaker (sic).
I don't know where either of them were born or when and only have them in 1877 and 1884 until Eliza remarries in 1900.
Alexander and Mary Jane Spence and familiy.
I know some of the Spence's were still there in 1901 and 1911.
William's birth certificate says it was in Strabane in Raphoe.
Any help most welcome. Thanks.
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I have searched through the LDS records for the births of
David Whittaker b.c. 1840 and his siblings
Barbara b.c. 1866
William b.c. 1868
and
Sarah b.c. 1847
but to no avail.
I have Barbara and William in the 1901 and 1911 census' but cannot find their births under Whittaker/Whitager etc.,
What am I doing wrong? If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to know please.
Many thanks
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Hi
I wonder if someone would be able to find the Whittaker family in Donegal please? (or any other Whittaker's in the area!)
I am looking for William Whittaker and his wife Sarah who with their family were in Barras, Plumridge in 1901.
In 1912 in Leardin, Tyrone North in Plumbridge/Plumridge.
Some of the children were:
Robert b.c. 1886
Mary b.c. 1887
Sarah b.c. 1891
Margaret b.c. 1893
Lizzy b.c. 1894
Annie b.c. 1896
Matilda b.c. 1899 and
Samuel b.c. 1902
there could be more of them by 1911.
William was a shoemaker in 1902 and Sarah died in 1914 in Leardin but I have no ages for them.
They were married in Strabane in 1885.
Any help would be great.
Many thanks
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My family came from County Donegal and my g.grandfather was born in Beltony in the Registration district of Strabane, Raphoe in 1884.
The next time I find him is in 1901 aged 19 in Port Glasgow and hopefully the man I think was his father died in Ayr under Muirkirk Parish in 1901.
Would anyone know how they would have got to Scotland from Ireland please?
I have no idea when except it would have between 1884 and 1901!
His name was William Whittaker and he doesn't appear to be in Scotland in 1891, at least no-one has been able to find him, so he could still have been in Ireland then when he would have been about 7 years of age. His father was David.
Many thanks
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Hello,
Although I have nothing certain, and at the moment do not know where to find if , I think they would have sailed from Derry/Londonderry. It is only about 14 miles from Strabane. and was a fairly busy port at that time. Hope this gives an idea.
Peter
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Hi again,
The lib rary at Letterkenny has info on emmigration, their link is
central@gonedallibrary.ie
send an "e" to Maureen Kerr or Berni Campbell
good hunting
Peter
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I wonder if someone would be able to track down any of the following people in 1911 please from County Donegal? Many thanks
Sarah Whittager/Whittaker
b.c. 1846
she was alive in 1901 age 55 and a widow
she married in St Johnstone in Taughboyne, Strabane
Her children:
William James b. 1870 - Raphoe and was 30 - unm - in 1901
Samuel b. 1885 - unm and 26 in 1901
Matilda b. 1867 - Raphoe - unm and 32 in 1901
Mary - b. 1875 Strabane - not found in 1901
James Whittaker b.c. 1834
wife Mary married in Taughboyne
Children: All born in Raphoe
Eliza - 1865
Thomas b. 1868
Robert b. 1870
Maria - b. 1869
I haven't been able to trace them in 1901 or 1911.
lastly
Rachel Whittager/Whittaker/Whitager
b.c. 1841 and unm in 1901 age 60 - Donegal
Any findings would be great, many thanks
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24 Dec 2006
Thank you for your email but I still can't get through to you to reply to you.
You have the "maximum amount of Posts" - but I'm not sure what that means you have to do!
Have a good Christmas.
Regards
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Sorry only Just Noticed this topic now :D
Must mean my private message inox is full.
Deleted a few now so i hope to hear your response regarding what i sent you the other day 8) 8)
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This is a fantastic free website for Donegal - has 1901 & 1911 census info as well as BDM.
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Welcome to RootsChat, thady.
It looks as though you forgot that fantastic free website.
Is it the one that Scotmum posted one about Various 1901 and 1911 Census returns for Donegal (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,61585.msg248892.html#msg248892) ???
Chris.
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Hello Christopher and Thady
Thanks for your messages, sorry Thady I didn't know you had replied until I got Christopher's message and saw yours there too.
I will have a look at the site and see if any of my areas are mentioned.
Many thanks
Have just had a look but it doesn't seem to have any of the area I am looking for, but worth a try. Thanks
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Hello cranstone,
I looked at Griffith's Valuation (http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php) for Donegal which took place in the county in 1857. There were none listed so
I checked to see if there were any people with this surname listed anywhere in Ireland during the period 1848 - 64 and found several.
Do you by any chance know the surname of David's wife as marriages usually took place in the Parish in which the bride lived? It's possible that David was a temporary resident in the Parish and never thought about giving his home Parish address.
Here's the link to the other thread about David Whittaker ... Why can't I find.... (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,127165.0.html)
Chris
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Hello cranstone,
I've linked to your other thread Sheercloon records for 1877? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116621.0.html) which makes it slightly easier to see replies.
As far as I'm aware the LDS records are a list of records submitted by individuals. It appears to me no one has submitted your Whittakers. I think one of the few ways to check the county where your Whittaker family lived is to use Griffith's Valuation of Ireland 1848 - 1864. There are a few Williams on the list so possibly that was the christian name of the father of David and his siblings.
Chris
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Hi Christopher
Thanks for your email. Yes, there was a William on the records, who I am hoping is mine but I can't find anything else on his time there.
Regards
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Hi Christopher
Thanks for your message, yes I know her name was Spence and she and her family came from Milltown.
I have found other Whittakers from the Sheercloon and Stranorlar area - seem to be everyone but David!
Regards
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Hello cranstone,
Do you know in which church in Strabane the marriage took place?
Christopher
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Hiya Theresa,
When were your Whittaker ancestors in Co. Donegal ??? There's no mention of the name in the online extracts of Griffith's Valuation. The Valuation took place in the county in 1857.
Christopher
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Hi There There, 8)
The Whittaker surname doesn't appear on either the 1796 Donegal Flax Growers list or Griffiths Valuations for Donegal which took place in 1857.
Have you any idea of the denomination of the family or when they were in the county?
Christopher
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Hi everyone
I have still yet to track down my g.grandfather and his family in 1891 and wondered if anyone can help please?
He was born in Donegal in 1884 and then in 1901 he was in Scotland, so in 1891 he could have been in either place. He'd have been about 7/9 years old and his name was William Whittager/Whittaker (or variants).
Many thanks for any help.
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There is no 1891 census for Ireland- the 1st complete census is 1901. Only fragments of earlier ones survive for certain areas.
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Hi!
That's why I haven't found him then!!!! :o
Thanks for reminding me, I'd completely forgotten about that!
Regards
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Have you tried searching for him in 1891 Scottish census?
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Hi Theresa,
St Johnston in the Parish of Taughboyne is in Co. Donegal.
Christopher
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Hello Theresa,
Click here (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/census.htm) to see a large number of 1901 and 1911 Census extracts for Co. Donegal.
Christopher
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Hello Theresa,
There's not a listing for Whittaker on the 1857 Griffiths Valuation extracts for Co. Donegal.
Christopher
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Theresa- Strabane is actually in Co.Tyrone not Donegal. The county will make a big difference when searching for records.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabane
If you have any names and approx. date someone might be able to help.
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Would anyone have any information on any Whittaker/Whittager (sic) people from Tyrone or Co Donegal that they would be able to give me please?
ie census/baptisms etc.,
I am trying to track down my own but am finding it difficult and am wondering if I can get lots of info. I can put it all together and see what I get and if anyone is mine.
My last know "ancestor" died in Stranorlar workhouse in 1941, so anything backwards from there would be great.
Hoping someone can help.
Kind regards
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Good morning
I am wondering if anyone can get access to Baptism records please?
I am looking for the baptism of my g.grandfather who according to his birth certificate was born in Beltany/Beltony in Raphoe.
He was born in August 1884. On the certificate his name was William Whittager but his parents were under Whitager. The name is also Whittaker. So he could be under either spelling.
The churches he may have been baptised in were Raphoe Church of Ireland.
Possibly Cof I in Convoy or Clonleigh too.
He is the only child I can find at the moment but I am hoping that if his baptism can be found then maybe if he had siblings, they may be mentioned too.
His parents married in 1877 and so possibly had children up until 1900?
If anyone can help, it would be brilliant.
Many thanks
Kind regards
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hi cranstone, the 1911 census for donegal is online now :)
tony
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Hi Cranstone try Lindel's fantastic site
Donegal genealogy resources
Sue Mc
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Hi to both of you, Tony I have replied on a PM, so hope you got it, thank you again for letting me know, it also says the 1901 is due out at the end of 2009 - Chrissy present!
I have seen Lindel's site, thanks too for that but sadly none of mine seem to be on it - :-[
But thank you for letting me know I might not have known.
Kind regards
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Hi again ,,,,Did you leave a message on Lindel's site sign the guest book people are always looking at requests...also if Lindel has any records she will help you out Stranorlar info not all online yet
Sue
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Hi Sue
I'm not sure if I ever have but I will check, thanks for letting me know.
Kind regards
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Hello. I am still trying to find out where some of my ancestors are buried and wondered if any Rootschatters had any ideas please?
Three of them died whilst living in Sheercloon.
One died whilst living in Cavan and I presume she moved there as the rest of her family had all gone.
They were Church of Ireland.
Their names and dates of death were:
William WhittEker - 77 - 29th October 1899 - Sheercloon
Martha WhittAker - 109 - 29th December 1911 - Sheercloon
William WhittAker - 78 - 26th May 1933 - Sheercloon - Informant a Andrew Railston of Cavan
Barbara WhittAker - 86 - 19th February 1941 - Cavan - Informant a Sarah Stevenson of Cavan
I know Barbara was in Sheercloon in 1899, 1901, 1911, 1912 - presuming until around 1933
I know William Jr. was in Sheercloon in 1901, 1911 and 1912 to prsumable 1933
and I know Martha was in Sheercloon in 1901 and 1911
I am hoping eventually to find their baptisms too, somewhere in Co Donegal.
If anyone can help it would be great. Many thanks
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Civil registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages began in 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages). There will be no civil certificates before these dates and you'll need to search for church records (if they exist).
This booklet gives lots of information on Donegal research which might help you understand what records do exist and how to find them-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/genbooklet.pdf
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Cavan (Lr and Uppr) is near Killygordon in the parish of Donaghmore. Sheercloon is in the neighbouring parish of Clonleigh - both parishes in Donegal.
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Thanks Derry
I've seen the Santa's for the first time - ah sweet - have to use one! :D
Regards
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1911 census Whittaker living at 1 Sheercloon, Clonleigh North Donegal
Willimam 55, Head of family, Barbra sister 58, mum Martha 109
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Hi, thanks for that.
Kind regards :)
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My ancestors are form the same area. Mc Kane and Mc shane they lived in Cavan and Mullnaveigh and ballindraite. They are all buried in the clonleigh church of ireland. I am sure your family are all buried in clonleigh church of Ireland graveyard. They have Birth, marriage,and deaths records in the Church of ireland representative body in dublin and in PRNO. belfast North of Ireland. I was visiting there last month, its a lovley old church set in wounderful countryside.
regards
michaelmacmenamin
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There is a site your can use as welll. Irish History family foundation you select the name and fathers name and you sould be able to get details. Its 5.00 euro a shot, I found one of my ancestors on this site after years of trundling through parish registers.
regards
michaelmacmenamin
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Hi
Many thanks for your reply and information. I have sent you a PM too.
Kind regards
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Hello. I wonder if anyone knows where burials were reinterred to when Stranorlar workhouse was made into St Joseph's Hospital or is the graveyard still there please?
If anyone can help it would be great. Many thanks
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Looking for any Whittaker/Whitager's from County Donegal in the 1800/1900's please?
Areas involved include,Mountmellic
Thanks for any help.
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Hello. I am still trying to find out where some of my ancestors are buried and wondered if any Rootschatters had any ideas please?
Three of them died whilst living in Sheercloon.
One died whilst living in Cavan and I presume she moved there as the rest of her family had all gone.
I am hoping eventually to find their baptisms too, somewhere in Co Donegal.
If anyone can help it would be great. Many thanks
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My contribution to the Whittakers.
Margaret McCLURE of Bawn.b.1895.d.1976. m.20.2.1919.Convoy. [MarriageCert.Stranorlar rego-1823783]
John Whittaker of Dromore,Tyrone.b.1885.d.1949.[Father-William Whittaker]
cheers
Jack
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My contribution to the Whittakers.
Margaret McCLURE of Bawn.b.1895.d.1976. m.20.2.1919.Convoy. [MarriageCert.Stranorlar rego-1823783]
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Born 17 March 1895. MMN Kilpatrick
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02216/1836552.pdf
Marriage - Convoy Presbyterian Church to John Whittaker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09665/5504721.pdf
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Thanks KG - Correct.
cheers
Jack