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Title: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: Chris Ridley on Tuesday 22 September 09 15:36 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm trying to find out about my GG Grandmother Jane Leader (widow). She lived in Islington and was living in Blundell street in 1881 so she could possibly still be living there?

She probally would have had at least 3 of her children living with her .. Minnie, Florence and Jessie and possibly Earnest and William.

So if poss would any one be able to look in the 1891 and maybe the 1901 census for me, to see what information there is.

I would really appreciate this help.

Kind regards

Chris Ridley
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 September 09 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi

Full 1881 details should have been included so we can be certain we have the right family.  We particularly always need birthyears and birthplaces with all lookup requests

There is no Minnie listed.  All children b Islington

William Leader 37  b Marylebone
Jane 38  b Wareham Dorset
Alice  15 
William  12 
Ernest  10 
Jessie 8 
Florence  4 
 
 
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 September 09 16:05 BST (UK)
1891 indexed as LEADA - 81 ?? Street Islington

Jane Leader 43  widow b Wareham Dorset
Wm Henley 17  (image is Henley - not Henry)
Ernest George 14 
Florence Amy   14 
Minnie Sarah   9 
plus 2 lodgers
Esther Robinson 45 
John Foster Lory 59 
RG12 Piece 160 Folio 11 Page 16
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Tuesday 22 September 09 16:31 BST (UK)
Hi.
Just a couple of corrections for 1891.

LEADER Jane Head Widow 48               b;Wareham Dorset
   "        William Stanley son 22     Postman   
   "        Ernest George             "    20      Letter Sorter
   "       Florence Amy               dau 14     Scholar
   "      Minnie Sarah                  "     09       "

All born Islington

Census 1901 RG13/175/61/18  39 Porring ? Rd, Islington
LEADER Jane  Head Widow 58 Charwoman     b: Wareham, Dorset
   "        Minnie S     dau       19 Upholstery Trimmer   b: Islington


Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: kathb on Tuesday 22 September 09 16:38 BST (UK)
Chris, Looks like this is  Jessie Emma Leader, umarried, Servant in the house of a Lezzalk family Highbury Hill,
Ref: RG12, 177/13
1891 Census
Regards
Kathb
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Tuesday 22 September 09 16:41 BST (UK)
Here is Jessie in 1891.

Census 1891 RG12/177/71/13. 78 Highbury Hill, Islington.

LEADER Jessie Emma  servant u/m 18 Hosemaid b: Islington

Housemaid to a LEGGATT family.

Devis :)

oops! crossed postings!
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: Chris Ridley on Tuesday 22 September 09 16:52 BST (UK)
Thanks so very much Carole for your prompt and helpful reply

I was just about to send a query about the discrepancies in age between the two Census (Cenci?) when I got another post from Devis with amended ages.

I have also just seen the posts about Jessie Emma (thank you Devis and Kath) I presume the name of the Family she worked for is not easy to read but is probally the same ? I do knows Jessie eventually got married in 1899 to a George Witts.

Thanks very much to all of you for helping me solve this query it's extremely interesting and very helpful.

Kind Regards

Chris
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Tuesday 22 September 09 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi.
I presume this isdaughter Alice.

Marriage: LEADER Alice Jane to RIDLEY John H. Sept 1884 Islington.

Census 1891/ RG12/143/25/11. 15 Tytherton ? Rd. Islington

RIDLEY John H. Head 29   Teacher                 b: Carmarthen.
  "        Alice  J   Wife  25
  "        Robert L  Son 05
  "        Ethel M    Dau 02
  "        Stanley    Son 01

All others born Islington

Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: Chris Ridley on Tuesday 22 September 09 17:17 BST (UK)
Yes Devis, thanks for that... Thats my my direct line... Alice was my G. Grandmother and Robert was my Grandfather... I've just about completed the Ridley side of my family research.. but actually know very little about the Leader side so any help is really appreciated..

Kind Regards

Chris
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: kathb on Tuesday 22 September 09 17:41 BST (UK)
Chris, great to see an outcome to a post.
Regards
Kathb
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Tuesday 22 September 09 21:01 BST (UK)
Here`s a poss for William LEADER.

Census 1861 RG08/130/45/21. Richmond Arms P.H. Blundell St, Islington.

LEADER William u/m 17 Potman    b: Marylebone


Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Tuesday 22 September 09 21:24 BST (UK)
I wonder if this is Jane before her marriage to William :D

Census 1861 RG09/130/50/31-32. 7 Blundell St Islington.

STEVENS Richard Head 33 Grocer   b: Wareham, Dorset
   "          Sarah   Wife   31              b:    "               "
Plus some children born London
STANLEY/HANLEY? Jane wifes sister u/m 18  b: Wareham, Dorset

Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: Chris Ridley on Wednesday 23 September 09 16:13 BST (UK)
Once again Devis you've come up trumps.. thanks so very much for this latest information.

Blundell St Islington.. seems to be a common denominator. I've tried looking to see if I can find the marriage details of Richard and Sarah Stevens..so I can find her maiden name and therefore her sisters surname, but no luck yet...

Thanks once again

Kind regards

Chris
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Wednesday 23 September 09 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Yes I couldn`t find the marriage of Richard & Sarah.
Not sure if this helps at all: Online IGI Baptisms for Wareham, Dorset.

STANLEY Jane.  Bth: 31/3/1843. Bapt: 3/9/1843
   "          Sarah Bapt: 19/7/1829. Parents: Moses & Ann STANLEY.
Presbytarian Church Wareham.

Census 1841 HO/107/11-23/22. Ropers Lane, Wareham, Dorset.
STANDLEY                 Moses 39 Shoemaker
       "                        Ann 38
       "                        Richard 16 Shoemaker
       "                        Eliza    13
       "                        Sarah  12
       "                        George 10
       "                        Alfred   07
       "                        Frances 05
       "                        Francis  03
All born in Dorsetshire

Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: DEVIS on Wednesday 23 September 09 17:34 BST (UK)
 Census 1851 HO107/1856/396/16. Ropers Lane. Wareham.

STANDLY       Moses   Wid  49    Shoemaker
    "              George  son  19         "
    "              Alfred      "     17     Sadler
    "              Frances  dau  15
    "              Francis    son  13   Shoemaker
    "              Henry       "     10
    "              Jane       dau  07
    "              Emma       "     04

All born: Wareham.

Devis :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: kanskar on Wednesday 23 September 09 22:00 BST (UK)
Baptism - West St Chapel, Wareham

19 Jul 1829 - Sarah Standley - daur of Moses & Ann Standley (Shoemaker)

Abode - Lady Mary
Title: Re: 1891 Census Lookup please Islington
Post by: Chris Ridley on Thursday 24 September 09 08:36 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Devis and Kanskar

Things are becoming a little clearer now. I found a marriage between a Sarah Standly and a Richard Stevens in Portsea in 1849, and these dates tie in...so this could be a good possibility. I also found a marriage between an Anne/Jane Stanley (The transcription read Anne but the actual index is extremely poor so it could easily be Jane) and A William Leader in Shoreditch Middlesex in 1864.. so this is another good possibility.

I must say there is a variety of spellings for Standley, but they all seem to lead back to the Wareham family.

Thanks very much, this is brilliant stuff

Kind Regards

Chris