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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: rastajill on Saturday 19 September 09 10:07 BST (UK)
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looking for mirek kettle born 1847 congleton cheshire father ralph mother racheal got birth certificate the totally dissapears got entire chatroom baffled lastnight been looking for six months any suggetions ???
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Was it Mirek or Ralph who was born 1847?
I can see a Ralph KETTLE born c1847 Burslem, Staffs, living in Congleton with wife Rachel:
1891:
RG12/2844; Folio 75; Page 24
24 & 26 (?)Racks, Congleton
Ralph KETTLE - Head - 44 - Fishmonger - Burslem, Staffs
Rachel KETTLE - Wife - 43 - Langley, Macclesfield
Thomas KETTLE - Son - 16 - Gen Lab - Congleton
Ralph KETTLE - Son - 14 - Gen Lab - Congleton
Herbert KETTLE - Son - 6 - Congleton
I've never heard of Mirek as an English name! ???
Rambler
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OK, I've found the birth now!
Births Mar 1876
KETTLE Mirek
Congleton 8a 310
As you say, he's not with Ralph and Rachael in 1881.
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rastajill,
I found the following
There may be a link?
All born Biddulph
Cromwell Street Biddulph Bradley Green St Laurence
Ref: RG11/3535/Folio 132 Page 13 1881 census
James Bailey Head Mar 48 Coal Miner
Hannah Kettle (does not state wife) Mar 39
Eliza Daugh 14 at home
James Son 12 Scholar
Rachael dau 7 Scholar
Merric son 5 Scholar
William son 1
Also on the 1881 could this Thomas be a sibling?
4 Rocks Congleton, Congleton North, St Stephens
Ref: RG11; Piece: 3533; Folio: 87; Page: 28
William Sant Head Mar 78 Farm Labourer born Sproston, Cheshire
Martha Sant wife Mar 77 born Gawsworth
Thomas Kettle Grandson 6 born Congleton
I have had no luck finding Merric/Mirek on any later census data as yet
Hope some of this helps
Regards
Kathb
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Manchester, I was looking at the same free bmd entry whilst in chatroom....when you view original scan....it does not include a Mirek Kettle.
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1901 RG13/3594 F38 P17
Leigh Lancaster
5 ?egan Road
Hannah Kettle age 60 widow living on own means b Bradley Green Staffs
Myrick " son single age 23 coal miner hewer
Miles Herbert son single age 14 "
Priscilla Wood granddaughter age 14 cotton weaver?
all born in Bradley Green Staffordshire
Cathy
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The following children are registered in Congleton during the correct timetable for Ralph and Rachel (from www.cheshirebmd.org.uk):
Ann 1869 Congleton CON/36/20
Isaac 1871 Congleton CON/39/60
Henry 1872 Congleton CON/39/80 - death registered OND 1872 Congleton
Rachel 1873 Congleton CON/42/61
Thomas 1874 Congleton CON/44/33
Mirek 1876 Congleton CON/45/83
Ralph 1877 Congleton CON/48/32
William 1879 Congleton CON/51/1
Herbert 1885 Congleton CON/57/96
If Mirek was the son of Ralph and Rachel then they all could be - and Rachel, Mirek and William are missing in 1881.
With James BAYLEY and Hannah KETTLE are a Rachel, Merric and William who match the ages.
Jean
PS. Congleton Registration district covered Biddulph in Staffordshire until 1893.
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1891 - RG12 3087/21A Page 37, West Leigh, Lancashire:
Hannah KETTLE, Head, Widow, 44, born Staffordshire Biddulph
James KETTLE, Son, S, 21, Coal Miner - ditto
Merric KETTLE, Son, S, 15, Coal Miner – ditto
William KETTLE, Son, S, 11 born –ditto
Myles H KETTLE, Son, 4 born –ditto
Jean
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rasta,
You already knew bally had found him on 1881 - bally has now found Mirek on the 1891 at ancestry...mistranscribed as Marrie.......has another younger sibling by then too, Myles, so matches with the 1901 post above (oops, and someone just posted before me re 1891 too).
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The KETTLE-BAILEY link is interesting - Mirek seems to be a family name:
Marriages Mar 1870
BAILEY Mirek
TURNOCK Mary
Congleton 8a 321
(Marriage at Congleton, St Peter according to Cheshire BMD.)
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1871 census
RG10/3702 F14 P20
Dirty Lane Brook St
George Kettle Head marr age 62 labourer in iron works born cheshire Nantwich
Rachel " wife age 49 all born Biddulph
Hannah " daur unmarr age 26 at home
Sarah A " daur " age 15 fustan cutter Pricila " daur age 9 scholar
Joseph " son age 13 coal pit boy
Annie " Hannah daur age 9
Eliza " Hannah daur age 4
Frederick Hannah son age 1
Cathy
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Manchester, I was looking at the same free bmd entry whilst in chatroom....when you view original scan....it does not include a Mirek Kettle.
Yes - it's a faulty link on Free BMD. (I get a page of surnames beginning with A.) I checked the complete images, and the reference is correct.
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Rasta, I cant find Mirek on the 1911, but I DID find his brother Miles & his family for you while I was looking:
Family of Miles Kettle Born Leigh Lancs
KETTLE - ELLEN - F - 1885 - age 26 - Leigh Lancashire (Wife)
KETTLE - ETHEL - F - 1907 - 4 - Leigh Lancashire
KETTLE - LILLY - F - 1907 - 4 - Leigh Lancashire
KETTLE - MYLES HERBERT - M - 1911 - 3 MONTHS - Leigh Lancashire
Hope that helps
Gaille
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Wonder if he calls himself Merrick in 1911? My cousin had a friend whose first name was Merrick.
Lizzie
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Hannah Kettle looks like she may have died age 61 in Leigh Sept Qtr 1905
There is also a death in 1902 Sept Qtr of a Myrie Kettle age 26
Freebmd site
Cathy
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thanks for all the help folks found mirek turned out thomas bailey was his father and my g granny his mother if you get the picture, haven,t found a death yet but at least i know hwere he went :D :D :D :D :D