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If anyone has access to parish records for Kirkham and Medlor please could they help.There are two Thomas Lingards on the censuses both born about 1836/38.One is born at Medlor and the other at Kirkham.
Both have fathers called John.
Ihave been unable to find a birth for either on the IGI and am trying to separate the two out on a family tree so need their baptism/birth details.
Many thanks for any help.
Elaine
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Hi,
I've found two birth records for Thomas LINGART in Fylde, the registration district for Medlar-with-Wesham and Kirkham,
Thomas LINGART Mar Q 1838 Fylde 21 377
Thomas LINGART Dec Q 1839 Fylde 21 369
Do these help?
Regards
Daisy
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Yes,they do help very much,many thanks.
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Lancashire BMD
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
shows mother's maiden names for these two births:
WILKINSON for the 1838 birth
BROWNE for the 1839 birth
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Many thanks ,will do a bit more investigating now,thats a bit more to go on.
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Using the site given by Galium you can also find an Ambrose, Nanny and Miles with mmn WILKINSON, so I think this looks like the family in 1841 and 1851,
1841 HO107/496/6 f.8 p.9 Kirkham
Greenhalgh with Thistleton
LINGERT
John 35 Cotton Weaver
Mary 35
William 10
James 8
Thomas 3
Ambrose 7months all born in County
1851 HO107/2269 f.90 p.2 Greenalgh With Thistleton
LINGARD
John Head 49 Ag Lab Lancashire Greenhalgh
Mary Wife 49 Hand Loom Weaver " "
Thomas Son 13 Farmers Serv " Medlar
Ambrose Son 9 Scholar " Esprick
Nanny Daur 5 " " "
Miles Son 2 " "
The later Thomas seems to be the son of William and Nancy, as the later children also have mmn BROWN/E.
1841 HO107/496/14 f.16 p.1 Kirkham
Roseacre
LINGARD
William 40 Labourer
Nancy 35
Ellen 15
John 10
Isabella 8
William 6
Thomas 1 All born in County
1851 HO107/2269 f.124 p.3 Treales, Roseacre, and Wharles
LINGARD
William Head 5? Ag Lab Lancs Esprick
Nancy Wife 49 Labr Wife " Treals
Thomas Son 11 Ag Lab " Rosacre
Nancy Daur 7 Scholar " "
Jane Daur 5 " " "
Ellen MATTHERS Daur M 25 wif William MATTHERS employed Lancs Rosacre
as a cowman at Myerscough
George " Grandson 4m Lancs Myerscough
Which census do you have with two Thomas's with fathers John?
Daisy
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I hope this doesn't confuse! 1841 census John SWIGART 1791 (should be lingard) with children, ellen, john, william, alice and thomas (1832/6) and 1881, the son William (57) is a rush manufacturer the same as his late father John. John's wife must have died before 1841 as she does not appear on any census.
The other branch is John Lingard 1803 marries Mary Wilkinson 1851 census which you rightly have from Greenhalgh.
On the 3 marriage certs for son Thomas Lingard it does state that his father John is deceased, but to tie this up a baptism or birth , or mother's name would help!
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Hi,
I hope you don't mind but I'm ust linking this to your earlier thread which gives some more info,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,330561.msg2114944.html#msg2114944
Daisy
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Thanks Daisy,Iam working on this with Cornish Milly and my computor was down last night,thanks for all your help.
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Hello Elaine,
Just registered to this site and have noticed your interest in the Lingards. Thomas Lingard (1838-1897) is my cousin four times removed! His parents being John Lingard and Mary Wilkinson. John's parents being William Lingart and Ellen Marsden (my 4 great grandparents).
If you think we are related, and wish to swap information please contact me.
Best wishes,
Peter