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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Daniels-mum on Wednesday 16 September 09 19:15 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I've posted a photo of my husband's great-great-great Uncle Joe taken in Albany, probably in the 1880's/90's, on the Photo Restoration board. Sometime ago I also posted a group photo to see if anyone knew where it was - the concensus was that it was somewhere in Australia. I'm pretty sure now that the portrait of Uncle Joe has turned up (it conveniently fell out of a book belonging to my mother-in-law) that he's in the centre of the group photo. I just wondered if anybody could shed any more light as to where the group photo may have been taken - ie could it be somewhere near Albany? I'd also be interested for advice on tracking Uncle Joe's movements if possible! We know nothing about him, but now I'm intrigued to try to find out what he was up to in Australia and what happened to him.
Here's the link to the photo restoration board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,406552.msg2746146.html#msg2746146
Many thanks
Regards
Helen
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Hi Daniels mum
According to W A indexes....there was a marriage of a Joseph Philip BARNARD to a Mary STUCKLEY in Albany in 1893 ...reg 193
They are online...... http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Daizi
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He is buried at Karrakatta
JOSEPH PHILIP BARNARD-- KB00050457
Age 90 01/08/1934 from SUBIACO
Grave Location----
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY ANGLICAN XC 0385
Sue
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This may be him....however the other person at the address is not Mary :-\
Australian Electoral Roll
1903 Western Australia Albany
BARNARD Joseph Aberdeen Street Occupation Fettler
BARNARD Sarah Aberdeen Street Home duties
Cando
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The marriage in 1893 was to a Sarah STUCKLEY who died in 1934 in Perth Reg#291.
They both lived at 65 Rowland Street, Subiaco and his occupation from 1906 was sailmaker. I apologise for not typing up all the detail..I am having problems with the internet this am >:( >:(
Sarah is buried at Karrakatta
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
Cando
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OOPS my mistake, sorry, and thanks Cando for picking that up, didnt have my glasses on ::)
Daizi
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Hi All,
The surname of the wife on the marriage is STUCKEY
I did note that she was a slightly older bride marrying in 1893 and being recorded as 80 years at her death in 1934.
I wondered if it was possibly a second marriage for her.
I saw these on the WA BIRTHS registrations and thought it may be her in a previous marriage.
STUCKEY, ARTHUR GEORGE CUTHBE father JAMES mother HICKS, SARAH at ALBANY reg 1484 year1888
STUCKEY, MABLE ALMA. father JAMES. mother HICKS, SARAH at ALBANY reg. 29299 year 1886.
Sue
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Hi
There is a death for JAMES STUCKEY
STUCKEY JAMES age ADU (adult) parents unknown reg. 605 year 1889 .
And the little girl
STUCKEY, MABEL ALMA age 5 Parents unknown reg.214 year 1892.
Sue
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Hi,
I can't see a marriage in Western Australia for JAMES STUCKEY & SARAH HICKS, but this in England may be them.
Marriage Sept. 1/4 1879. Kensington. Vol 1a, Pg 224
SARAH HICKS
STUCKEY, JAMES.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Sue
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JAMES STUCKEY apparently died in circumstances requiring an inquest.
In the Albany Advertiser 21/2/ 1890, a notice appeared..... in summary.
"A benefit Concert will be held in the Town Hall on 7th March on behalf of Mrs Stuckey whose husband was killed on the railway ..."
A search on
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y
also will give further information about the death of JAMES STUCKEY
Sue
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Hi everyone
Thanks for all your replies - you are all brilliant! I had no idea that Joseph's middle name was Philip. However, I have now found his baptism in London Births & Baptisms - 21 Jan 1849 in Hackney (which I knew was where they lived). I already knew his parents were Edward and Sarah and they are also listed in the baptism record. His birth was registered in Dec 1846 (the age is a bit wrong on his grave). So the Joseph Phililp Barnard you found is definitely our Uncle Joe. On the back of the photo it says "For Lizzie from Aunt and Uncle Joe" so we knew he was married, but not what his wife was called until now.
Thanks again for all your help. ;D
Helen
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Just had a look at the actual parish register online and noticed that they had all four of their youngest children (Charles, Joseph, Walter & Richard) ranging from age 6 to 1 baptised on the same day! Must have been pretty busy! :)
Helen
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(Charles, Joseph, Walter & Richard) ranging from age 6 to 1 baptised on the same day! Must have been pretty busy!
Helen
To your knowledge, was Joseph the only brother to come to Australia?
Sue
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Hi Sue
Good question. I don't know for certain. Charles got married in England in 1871, but that's all I know about the brothers to date. I will try and dig a bit more.
Helen
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Hi
I'm not too sure if you are still searching for information on Joseph P Barnard but I'm his Step Great Great grand daughter and I have some information that you may find interesting if you are still looking.
Kind Regards
Taryne
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Hi
I'm not too sure if you are still searching for information on Joseph P Barnard but I'm his Step Great Great grand daughter and I have some information that you may find interesting if you are still looking.
Kind Regards
Taryne
Hi Taryne, Yes that would be great if you have any information that you can share. I would be grateful (we have only one photo of him). His sister Harriet Barnard was my husband's great-great grandmother.
Kind regards,
Helen
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Hi Helen,
As you know he married Sarah Stuckey my great great grandmother in 1893 but what you might not know is that 1 year before they married they had a daughter called Dorothea. Most information points to James Stuckey being Dorothea's father but he died 3 years before she was born. Unfortunately Dorothea died at 1 yr old. My nan and I are obtaining her death certificate this week to confirm that Joseph was her father and to also find out how she died as her 5 yr old half sister Mabel also died the same year.
We will also be visiting his grave in the coming weeks and I would be happy to send you a photo if you wanted.
I hope this information is interesting for you :)
Thanks
Taryne
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Hi Helen,http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=5443844;topic=406794.9;last_msg=5443844#
As you know he married Sarah Stuckey my great great grandmother in 1893 but what you might not know is that 1 year before they married they had a daughter called Dorothea. Most information points to James Stuckey being Dorothea's father but he died 3 years before she was born. Unfortunately Dorothea died at 1 yr old. My nan and I are obtaining her death certificate this week to confirm that Joseph was her father and to also find out how she died as her 5 yr old half sister Mabel also died the same year.
We will also be visiting his grave in the coming weeks and I would be happy to send you a photo if you wanted.
I hope this information is interesting for you :)
Thanks
Taryne
Hi Taryne, Thank you - that's all very interesting! I would love a photo of his grave thanks. I'll pm you my email address. I also posted the portrait photograph we have of him on the photo restoration board, and I'll give you the link below so you can see the lovely restored/colour versions people have done. On that thread there is also a photo I posted of 42 Mile Camp that we have, and I think he is also on that photo.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=406552.msg2746146#msg2746146
Many thanks.
Helen
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Hi Helen
Wow! That photo is fantastic. I can't wait to show my Nan tomorrow morning!
I will definitely let you know if Dorothea is definitely his daughter and email you a picture of the gravesite when we go.
I'm thrilled you wrote back. I was concerned that you might not check this site anymore as you posted the until question in 2009.
My Nan and I will also be going to the State Record office shortly so if you want me to search anything for you then just let me know :)
Thanks
Taryne
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Hi Taryne,
Luckily I get email notifications if there's a post on a thread I started, so that's how I knew about your message! The photo was sent to his niece, Elizabeth Harris, who was my husband's great-grandmother - it says to Lizzie from Uncle Joe on the back. (Elizabeth's mother was his sister Harriet Barnard and she married Samuel Harris). The other photo of 42 Mile Camp is interesting. It must have been from when he first arrived in Australia.
Thanks for the offer of the photo of his grave. If you do ever find out anything else about him, it would be lovely if you could let me know.
Thanks again.
Helen
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Hi Helen
I received your email address so I'll forward the information when I get it.
The 42 mile camp picture is interesting as Sarah Stuckey and James Stuckey lived at the 62 mile camp and James had a heart attack while leaving the 5 mile camp riding home home to the 62 mile camp. So seeing what they looked like is fantastic!
Thanks
Taryne