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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Alicat84 on Monday 14 September 09 23:42 BST (UK)
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A lot of my Dublin ancestors were part of St. Paul's parish on Arran Quay (lots of baptisms and marriages). If someone who was part of this parish was to die, where would they be buried? In otherwards did St. Pauls have a graveyard or were all parishioners sent to a nearby graveyard? It's right on the quays so I can't imagine it had it's own graveyard on the premises.
I know St. Paul's is closed now, but I don't even know where their parish records are kept now and my knowledge of Dublin graveyards is atrocious.
Thanks
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Alicat
St. Paul's R.C. Church on Arran Quay dates from 1816 although there was an earlier chapel behind No.11 Arran Quay in use from 1785(Wright's Guide to Dublin) which was sold and used as a warehouse for many years.
I can find no record of a parochial graveyard and can only assume that from 1829 Goldenbridge was utilised and Glasnevin from 1832.Before that Bully's Acre was probably the nearest public cemetery but had to be closed due to congestion after the 1832 Cholera Epidemic. Bully's Acre is in the grounds of the Royal Hospital , Kilmainham.
Grenham shows that St.Paul's records date from 1731 but I cannot trace(so far) a chapel earlier to 1785.
Regards Quaxer
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I'm pretty sure the Arran Quay records are in Halston Street,which is just off North King Street,so not too far from Arran Quay.Here's a link with an e-mail address,might be worth popping them a line.
http://www.dublindiocese.ie/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=27
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Thanks Quaxer, don't know where you get all that information!
Deccam, thanks for the link. I emailed Halston St but the email "bounced", says that email is not in use :( However, I'll ring them tomorrow and see what the story is. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction though
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Hi
If you follow the link, you will find an option to complete a 'Requesting a Baptism, Confirmation or Marriage Certificate' If you address the completed formto Miss Paddy Pender at
Parish Office
Capuchin Friary
Church Street
Dublin 7
Found them to be very helpful and p[rovided me with additional information from my family whom lived in the parish
Notes from site:
All requests for certificates older than 50 years must be
submitted in writing to include the following:
1. All known details including names and dates
2. Stamped Addressed Envelope
3. Donation towards search non-refundable.
Suggested donation is 7 for certificates over fifty
years old and 3 for certificates less than fifty years
old. Cheques/postal orders payable to Restoration
Fund
Regards
Marc
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Marc, thank you so much for that. I'll be filling in a form tonight!
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Hi! I read your post and see it was from while back. Did you ever find where your relatives are interned? My 19C St. Paul Arran Quay ancestors were interned at Goldenbridge Cemetery which is in Dublin South... why? Because it was the first Catholic cemetery in Dublin. Seeking 19th century? I would try here... EXCEPT that records are held by Glasnevin Cemetery Group. Cemetery is otherwise closed to public now, and the records are in "cold storage" while Glasnevin works on another project. Would be worth a call to inquire about availability.
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This is very late to comment, but in case anyone finds it useful, all my family (the Ryans) from Paul Street and Bkackhall Place are buried in Glasnevin, starting from the 1900s and 1910s. They are on the old side of the road, not the side where burials take place now. My mother visited the office last year and they were extremely helpful, printing off grave locations and dates.
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I know it has been years for this thread-but I have found a record of John Calahan marrying Mary Rodgers at St Pauls Arran Quay Dublin North on 29 Jun 1873. Other than that record found on Family Search I'm at a loss. They are living in USA in 1900 but nothing in between. I'm hoping the old records of the church will help-where should I look for those? Its seems several locations were listed. TIA
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Well, it's (possibly) your lucky day. The national Library of Ireland have just published a boat load of parish records this week. Some kind people on the Mayo and Wicklow boards drew my attention to this. If your ancestors had children their baptisms may be on there. The records aren't searchable, so you have to trawl through them, but it's potentially a marvellous resource.
Have a look at
registers.nli.ie for more information.
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Michael Callaghan 1874
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5KR-FSC
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/d8efe10113315
John 1879
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b558970120808
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You can see their actual marriage on this link ~
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633663#page/144/mode/1up
They were both living at Church Street at the time of their marriage.
John's father was called Michael
Mary's father was called John.
Both father's were deceased at the time of the marriage.
Tara
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Have you looked for deaths and obits for John & Mary in the US to see if there is more mention of their parent's or their origins.
Calahan (& variants) & Rogers, while not rare in Dublin, are not common either.
This couple may not have been from Dublin originally.
I get the feeling that they weren't as both gave 137 Church Street as their address at time of marriage, again while not rare, usually an unmarried couple would not both be at the same address at the time of marriage.
James Carr & Margaret Green were the witness' so no family to try and get leads from.
Have you gotten a county in Ireland from any Census ?
Tara