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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: grove27 on Saturday 12 September 09 10:11 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help with details of the families of John and Edward Foley who were living in Bennetsbridge during the 1911 census. In particular marriages, deaths and children other than listed below would be appreciated.
John was 79 and "infantry pensioner". Edward was 77 a widower and a farmer. Also living in the house were Edwards daughters Annie and Teresa, 36 and 38 respectively.
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I an not certain that there are any further children of Edward .. he has written 'two' under the children still alive section of the form, but nothing in the number of children born. His marriage would seem to have been before civil registration - i.e. about 1863. From what I can see on the civil index Teresa was actually born in 1870 (Thomastown district) so would be 41.. so the ages may be slightly out..
maybe the place to start would be to look for a birth index for Teresa or Annie ?- if you dont already have these.. once you know the mothers name you could search for her death.
I dont see any promising marriage details in Co. Kilkenny for Teresa on the Civil index, but there are a number of possible matches for Annie if she married - see :
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable
Shane
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Thanks for that. Is there an online govt site for ordering cert copies?
Noticed you have Cantwell in your name list. I have Mary Cantwell married and died in Australia. Parents given as James and Mary Costello but the death cert only says Ireland, so I have no county details
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you can order certs by post from the GRO using the index details from the familysearch site - their website is www.groireland.ie
the details they requires are name, record type (e.g. marriage, birth etc), registration district, year/quarter, volume and page. The other details are LDS/familysearch references and are not required to order a cert.
My Cantwell line is a bit of a brick wall at the moment - a gg-grandmother is Sarah Cantwell born c1830 in Co. Wicklow.. but I cant find her birth, so I have not been able to go any further. The closest I have found so far is a Cantwell family owning land quite near to my Fitzsimon family - but have found no definite links yet. Strangely there are absolutely no Cantwell's listed on Co. Wicklow on the 1911 census..
Shane
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Hi there,
I am not completely certain but I believe Annie Foley married George Rainsford from Castlecomer. I am not sure when.
However I do believe their marriage to be between 1915 to 1921.
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Marriage entry on the Civil Registration Index at familysearch.org for
George Rainsford Castlecomer District Oct Dec 1919 vol 3 p 367 with a match for Annie Foley. Could be the correct marriage cert.
annclare
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Hi there, YES that sounds totally plausible now.
I checked out their marriage and they match up with the records.
The only thing I can not find is the year Annie Foley died. I know George Rainsford , her husband died in 1939.
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A marriage date of 1919 puts Annie at 47 when married (born 1872). Does this align to the date on her marriage cert or align to Georges approx birth year?
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Hi there,
I had a look and yes it does. I think some versions are different.
However this is certainly a match. The records match, and the age match.
I haven't been able to find out when she died ! Any help with that would be appreciated.
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You can try the Irish civil registration index at Family search.org - I had a quick look but couldn't find a death for Ann Rainsford in Castlecomer District between 1920 and 1958 . However if she wasn't living in that reg district when she died you would have to search the other reg. districts in Kilkenny - that is assuming she died in that county.
annclare
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I found a little bit more about Annie Foley.
Namely these - baptism/christening place: THOMASTOWN, KILK, IRE
birth date: 27 Nov 1872
father's name: Edward Foley
mother's name: Judith Dunne
I think Judith Dunne married in Thomastown Kilkenny also in 1869...
Still trying to find this out. However it does look plausible.
Still no luck finding Annie Foley / Rainsford Death year.
Hope all this helps out.
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Thanks again. The Foleys I have quite a deal of info on. Edward was christened the 16 July 1834 in Bennetsbridge (Thomastown Parish) the 9th child of Denis Foley and Ellen Mangan. 3 of his brothers and a sister migrated to Australia leaving the rest in Bennetsbridge. Sadly there are no family members left in Bennetsbridge today and finding out where they moved on to has proved challenging.
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Hi there,
i got the marriage cert of George Rainsford and Annie Foley.
They married on 23 Oct 1919.
There is a surprise on the marriage cert = it says her father is 'Michael Foley who was a Miner'.
This doesn't ring through with all the other stuff I found saying she was daughter to Edward Foley a farmer.
However I am more than convinced this Annie Foley is the one whose father is Edward Foley.
I must admit it baffled me somewhat.
UPDATE - I found this Annie Foley was born in 1902 or 1903 and died in 1965. She was married to George Rainsford in 1919.
Any more updates I will let you know.
Regards
Genesearch1
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Hi
Would a John Foley and his father also John Foley in Youghal Co. Cork have any connections to your Foley family?
Thanks
Linda
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Hi linda,
i'm not sure. I looked up the 1901/1911 Irish Census for youghal cork. I found it hard to find a link.
I do know that i have good info for Annie Foley above. Her birth and father Edward Foley etc
I know Annie married George above.
The Big Problem however was on the marriage cert of 1919 it had a Michael Foley as her father.
I'm sure this is wrong on the cert, as everything else adds up - location in Kilkenny, location of George in Castlecomer, and where the spent their married life.
So all this is proven.
I will have to find out WHY the name is different on the marriage cert.
Then again I could be wrong.
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Hi there
I found that Annie Foley was born in 1902 or 1903. She married George Rainsford in 1919, aged 17.
She died in 1965.
So she is not the Annie Foley from Bennetsbridge as I thought initially.
Any updates I will let u know.
genesearch1
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The connection didnt sound correct.Thanks for that
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Is there something here?
Have recently come upon family's genealogical records. I have an Ellen Foley daughter of Judith Dunne and Edward Foley of Bennetsbridge. Ellen married Thomas D. Sullivan around 1885 and they headed to the States making Ellen my gg-grandmother.
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Im not aware of Ellen, but have details on her sisters Catherine Theresa and Annie who were christened in Bennetsbridge between 1865 and 1872, so there plenty of capacity for more children.
Edward was the brother of my ancestor James Foley who married in Annamult in 1854 (outside Bennetsbridge) came to Australia straight after. James and Edward were the sons of Denis Foley and Ellen Mangan (Mangin). Denis in turn the son of Daniel Foley and Mary Campion was christened in 1788
Happy to send the family info I have.
Peter
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Peter,
Was really hoping you had heard of Ellen. All the information I have was done by hand in the 80s during which time my grandfather went from town to town crisscrossing Ireland. Perhaps this lineage is a match considering he later went to Australia to do research in the 90s.
Either way I would love any further information so I might be able to compare whilst I go through all of this. Email is *
-Erin
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