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Title: family tree
Post by: maelys on Friday 11 September 09 15:51 BST (UK)
hi can anyone look up the parish records for a spouse of edith emily chaundy of headington oxford
she was married in headington oxford in june 1895 ref 3a 1037. unable to locate who she married
any help would be appreciated
thanks maelys :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 September 09 15:53 BST (UK)
cant you see from the 1901 census who she married ?

You would of course need her DoB & Pob, but will hopefully see her with one of the males on that Index page you quote ...  :)


Added: Looking at FreeBMD I see there may be a problem !
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 15:58 BST (UK)
It's not going to be that easy I'm afraid. The reference for her marriage is Headington 3a page 1037- on Free BMD that is clearly incorrect as all the others on that page married in Eton.However looking at the GRO image it DOES say 1037 - so not sure what you can do apart from email them or give them a ring.

Will see if I can narrow things down at all.

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 16:02 BST (UK)
Aha  ;)

Page 1307 is missing a girl so maybe that's what it should say.

The two men are Thomas Kerry and William Edwin Bowell.

Can you find them in 1901 now and see if either fit?

Carol

Added,

Edith E Bowell age 28 on the 1901 at RG13/1378  Folio  157 Page 27
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 11 September 09 16:05 BST (UK)
Hi
I think it might be William Edwin Bowell  (ediths ref is 1037 Williams 1307 and a female short on the options - what do you think?
1901

 William E BOWELL Married age34  occ Painter & Glazier bn  St Clement Oxfordshire  
Edith E Wife age  28  bn  St Aldates Oxfordshire  
Edith Dtr age 3 bn  New Marston Oxfordshire  
Mabel E Dtr age  1  bn Cowley

living Crescent Road, Cowley
RG13 Piece 1378 F 157 P  27  

Rosie  

You beat me to it Carol  ;D
  
  
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 September 09 16:07 BST (UK)
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It's not going to be that easy I'm afraid.

thats why I added the footnote - been there & done that !


decided to leave it to you Ladies  --  you've all done very well  ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 16:08 BST (UK)
What a team Rosie  ;D

Love Sherlock  ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Woody32 on Friday 11 September 09 16:13 BST (UK)
They are still together in 1911- with quite a few more additions :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 11 September 09 16:18 BST (UK)
I wonder whether its worth putting a post it on freebmd  ???

I think I might

Rosie
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 16:22 BST (UK)
Rosie - I have  ;)

I've put a post it note to that effect.

Isn't it a shame we can't do anything about the GRO indexes when we find such errors(and there's plenty of them!)

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 11 September 09 16:28 BST (UK)
Rosie - I have  ;)

I've put a post it note to that effect.

Isn't it a shame we can't do anything about the GRO indexes when we find such errors(and there's plenty of them!)

Carol

Thanks Carol,  yes its certainly a shame we can't do anything about the GRO indexes - still good for freebmd they are excellent on doing amendments and its good to be able to do post its.

Rosie
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: maelys on Friday 11 September 09 21:56 BST (UK)
Hi Carol thanks for the info in the 1901 census she was called edith emily tomkins,and was listed as head of the house in Islington London.
Her date of birth jan to mar 1873in headington oxford
the 1901 census is the only one available after her marriage in 1895
regards maelys
 :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 22:20 BST (UK)
If her surname was Tomkins in 1901 -then she isn't the girl who married William Bowell in 1895 in Headington?

I'm confused  ???

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 11 September 09 22:35 BST (UK)
It appears that the family who are headed by Edith Emily Tomkins in 1901 in Islington are in West Derby in 1911.

Dad looks to be John William age 39,Edith is now 38.

Carol

Added- John William Tomkins married Edith Emily Carter in St George Hanover Sq in Dec 1/4 of 1893 ref 1a page 902.
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 12 September 09 09:02 BST (UK)
It's not going to be that easy I'm afraid. .....................   8) :P
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 12 September 09 09:16 BST (UK)
Come on Maelys hurry up and log on  ;D

Can't wait to see if the Edith Chaundy is correct in which case in 1895 she became a Bowell  ;)

Or the 1901 Edith Tomkins is right in which case she used to be a Carter  ;)

Especially after all our sleuthing yesterday lol !

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 September 09 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi Maelys

Please put us straight ...Edith Emily Tomkins who is in Islington (born Oxford) Do you have her marriage to a Tomkins as I see that is the family you are researching,  or are you trying to work out a possible match for her using freebmd births and the only option that popped us was Edith Emily Chaundy.  ???

Rosie

Hi Carol didn't look at your post before I did this  ::)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: maelys on Saturday 12 September 09 17:42 BST (UK)
hi carol thanks for the info but edith emily chaundy was married to a tomkins her maiden name was chaundy we cannot find her husband on any records so i am baffled as to where he has gone :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 12 September 09 17:49 BST (UK)
John William Tomkins married Edith Emily Carter in St George Hanover Sq in Dec 1/4 of 1893 ref 1a page 902.

HI Maelys

Sorry to say she was not- John Tomkins married Edith Emily Carter as above (1893).

Edith Emily Chaundy married William Bowell in 1895.

Is it the Tomkins family you are following- if so if you give us the more recent names and dates we will find them for you.Is one of their children your ancestor?

Later I will attempt to find both girls births.........off to babysit soon  ;D
Unless anyone else can find them whilst I'm gone.

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 12 September 09 18:54 BST (UK)
a childs birth cert would confirm Edith Emily's maiden name  ......
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: maelys on Saturday 12 September 09 21:27 BST (UK)
hi passed master i have sent for a copy of ernest alfred tomkins birth cert whose mother we think is edith emily tomkins nee chaundy
regards maelys :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 13 September 09 10:13 BST (UK)
To help you sort out the two Edith Emily's,here is Edith Tomkins and family in 1911.

John William Tomkins head 39 Dock laburer b London
Edith Emily wife 38 married 18 years b Oxfordshire
Herbert William George son 17 navy gunman, all kids b London
William Henry son 15 shopboy
Agnes Annie dau 14
Ernest Alfred son 12 schoolboy
Sydney John son 11 schoolboy
Percy son 7
Arthur son 5 b liverpool
Edward son 6 mths b Liverpool

Note how she says she was married for 18 years(ie 1893) making it true that it WAS the John William Tomkins and Edith Emily Carter marriage in St George Hanover Sq in Dec 1/4 of 1893. See my posting at 22-35 on 11th Sept.

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: chaundy on Monday 14 September 09 18:37 BST (UK)
Edith Emily Chaundy (23 year old spinster from Headington) married William Edwin Bowell - labourer from Cowley (27 year old bachelor son of Edwin Bowell - labourer) on 18th May 1895 by banns at Cowley Parish Church. Witnesses were Thomas Edgington and Bessie Bowell. Officiating minister was George Moore.

See my website:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Chaundy/ox_census_John_George.html

I can put you in contact with desdendants of that marriage, if you are interested.

Sue Chaundy
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 14 September 09 18:53 BST (UK)
Hello Sue and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

I'm sure Maelys will be very pleased to be in touch.....although I think it's the 'other' Edith Emily she's descended from.

Thanks for sharing that info with us  ;)

Carol
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 29 September 09 22:55 BST (UK)
hi passed master i have sent for a copy of ernest alfred tomkins birth cert whose mother we think is edith emily tomkins nee chaundy
regards maelys :)

Hi there

Do you have that cert yet- please put us out of our misery when you do  ;D
Which Edith Emily is the right one?

Carol