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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: darealjolo on Friday 11 September 09 11:11 BST (UK)
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In Brentwood. Is anyone near to this cemetery please to get a photo of a grave for a Elijah Moss who died/buried 30th November 1898 age 52.
If anyone can do this it would mean so much.
Thankyou
Joanne
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Hi
According to this
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?DocID=946346
at the ERO there appear to be no gravestones that have survived for former patients. The site is currently being re-developed as housing - if you google 'Warley Hospital' you will see many pictures of the old hospital etc.
Are you sure he was buried in the hospital cemetery? There are a couple of others nearby - might be worth enquiring of Brentwood BC - they have a telephone number for enquiries on their website
ec
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Indeed the old Warley hospital site is now a housing estate.
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Actually, I've just checked and the ERO seems to have very good records for Warley - the burial regiater is available to view on line and Elijah Moss was inded buried there 1898. They seem to have patient case records etc. as well - unfortunately not viewable on line
ec
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Ok so there is no burial now as houses are there instead? How awful!!
I didnt realise it was a hospital.
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I'm actually a Postman in Brentwood and can confirm that the Warley Hospital site is a new housing developement.. However the site is very large and I do know that there is a converted church on the site. I'm pretty certain that there are still some gravestones in that area on a vacent lot of land that the children use as a playfield?.. Also Warley Hospital is still a working hospital, as I said the site is very large and though the main building and church have been developed other parts havent.. Try getting in touch with the hospital as it should be on an NHS list somewhere and ask if theres any other burial sites on the land or nearby as I know of at least two church yards that sit across the road now, but may have been part of the hospital back then??
I'll pop by the converted church and local grave sites surrounding the land sometime next week and let you know if I find anything.
Kind regards
Matt Ellis
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Hi Matt,
If you can do that i would be very greatful to you.
Joanne
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I dont know if it would be of interest to you but I just ran a seach for your relative through Ancestry.co.uk to see if it had any hits.. I think its free to register for two weeks aswell?
Anyhow Elijah Moss came back with a family tree -
Bailey_2009-07-11
Owner: SusanAleman51
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/11987688/person/-239984938?ssrc=
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Thankyou very much, i will look now and join up.
Joanne
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Hi Joanne
I dont know if it would be of interest to you but I just ran a seach for your relative through Ancestry.co.uk to see if it had any hits.. I think its free to register for two weeks aswell?
Anyhow Elijah Moss came back with a family tree -
Bailey_2009-07-11
Owner: SusanAleman51
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/11987688/person/-239984938?ssrc=
and looks as if somewhere along, the tree decendant moved to America, I only include these details as I always enjoy seeing where my family tree takes a turn, and you never know these people may have photo's or stories if you are infact related?
Regards
Matt Ellis
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Ok i see, thankyou for letting me know this, will see the tree now hopefully.
Joanne
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Oh well bang goes that idea, i dont have credit card so cant view the tree. :'(
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Joanne,
Here is some basic info from the part of the tree that is relavent to Elijah, this should determine if your related in some way?
Also I'm certain you can use a debit card as I dont use credit cards either and I registered some months ago..
Elijah Moss
Birth 1847, Jun, Radwinter, Essex, England
3 source citations
1881 England Census
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Residence 1881, Age: 34, Acton, Middlesex, England
1 source citation
1881 England Census
Death 1898, Dec, Essex, United Kingdom
1 source citation
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Family Members
Parents
Richard Moss
1819 –
Emma
1813 –
Spouse & Children
Eliza Sage
1845 – 1881
Emily H. A. Moss
1876 –
George F. Moss
1877 –
Adelaide Mary Moss
1878 – 1973
Mary A.E. Moss
1878 –
Elizabeth M.E. Moss
1880 –
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Awww thankyou Matt for looking for me and posting here. It is the right family for sure.
Thankyou again. Oh and i dont have a debit card either :-[
Joanne
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Post me your email address and I'll send the tree owner a message asking to get in touch... oh and looking at the tree now its appears its one of Elijahs daughters - Adelaide Mary Moss that your related to.
I'm off out now so there will be a delay in any responces.
If only I had luck like this seaching for my own family members...
Kind regards
Matt Ellis
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Would someone be able to post link to the online Warley burial register at the ERO please, I can't seem to find it and would love to see if my GGG Grandfather James Hurst is on it, James died 1901 at the Essex County Asylum but unable to find where he was buried so far.
Regards
Nari
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You can view the register for free by going to the SEAX catalogue of the ERO.
https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/Default.aspx
First register.
Top right-hand box labelled Document Reference. Type>>> Q/ALc12/3
Elijah appears on Image 71 of 106
For other registers, in the search box type>>> warley asylum register
Then choose the register you wish to view.
I cannot find one for James in 1901, but try yourself
The burial ground has not been built on it is now just an area of grass and trees. See this side by side map view.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.7&lat=51.60878&lon=0.29160&layers=168&right=BingHyb
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Thank you Keldon for your message really appreciate your help, was able to locate the records but yes unfortunately was not able to find my GGG Grandfather, hopefully one day will be able to find his final resting spot.