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Title: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Anthony on Thursday 10 September 09 21:12 BST (UK)
Hi everyone. Need some help please, looking for some info on.

James Tynan & Margret Eppleston.

James was  living in Belfast 1921 at 37 Vere St.

Anything at all would help.

                                                  Thanks

                                                               Anthony
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Anthony on Thursday 10 September 09 22:19 BST (UK)
Hi everyone. Need some help please, looking for some info on.

James Tynan & Margret Eppleston.

James was  living in Belfast 1921 at 37 Vere St.

Anything at all would help.

                                                  Thanks

                                                               Anthony

James was in the Army at onetime.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: maryderry on Thursday 10 September 09 22:25 BST (UK)
anthony, found their marriage,although it gives her name as melville in brackets it shows her name as eppleston,  but doesn't show here.was she married before.

1917 james  TYNAN 
 margaret  MELVILLE(EPPLESTON) 
 Belfast Antrim

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 12 Dec 1917
Groom Name james TYNAN
Bride Name margaret MELVILLE
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim
margarets father william nothing for james.

could this be her parents.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 29 Aug 1881
Groom Name william EPPLESTON
Bride Name mary HUNTER
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

                                                          regards mary.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Anthony on Friday 11 September 09 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi Mary, Thank you very much for your help, yes they could be the parents.

Mary could you do a wee search for.

Patrick O Kane & Mary Mcarthy about 1908?. Belfast

                                                                       Thanks

                                                                                    Anthony
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: maryderry on Saturday 12 September 09 00:37 BST (UK)
anthony,this is a possible marriage.found two marriages for same year for a mary mccarthy not sure which one is hers hence the two fathers names.


Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 11 Jun 1899
Groom Name patrick KANE
Bride Name mary MCCARTHY
Church Belfast Roman Catholic Church
Parish Belfast Urban 1
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

his father john her father john/daniel



                                       regards mary.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Thursday 10 March 11 17:00 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone. Need some help please, looking for some info on.

James Tynan & Margret Eppleston.

James was  living in Belfast 1921 at 37 Vere St.

Anything at all would help.

                                                  Thanks

                                                               Anthony

Anthony, I can't believe I've found someone looking for the same family!  Please can you get in touch.  Looking forward to hearing from you VB
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 10 March 11 17:46 GMT (UK)
Vita,
      Before Anthony can contact you using the Personal Message system you will have to make another couple of posts. A reply to this will be one.

Regards
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Thursday 10 March 11 18:19 GMT (UK)
thanks kingskerswell.  VB
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 13 March 11 23:29 GMT (UK)
Anyone know any thing about these EPPLESTONE's?  had hoped to hear from Anthony, but nothing so far.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: julie epp on Thursday 28 August 14 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi there,  I have lots of information about the Irish Eppleston (Appleston) family having researched the 'boys' that fought in WW1 as part of the centenary.  I'm also trying to establish whether they are related to me/my family given how unique our surname is.  In response to your original query Margaret married in 1911 and must've remarried in 1917.  I would love to share findings if you're interested.  It is available via www.ancestry.co.uk in the Irish Eppleston tree, my own is the Eppleston tree, both of which should be public
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 01:33 BST (UK)
Julie, good to hear from you and apologies for taking so long to reply.  Does a Hannah Darragh feature anywhere in your research?
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 31 August 14 06:33 BST (UK)
Hi,
    Wonder if this helps. 18 Nov 1915 Robert Eppleston married Hannah Darragh in St. Annes Church of Ireland, Shankill, Belfast. The fathers' names were William Eppleston and Henry Darragh.

Regards
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: julie epp on Sunday 31 August 14 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi there, as others have suggested, it would appear that Hannah married Robert in 1915, sadly I have no further information on Hannah other than that.  My initial interest in the family (aside from sharing the same surname) was to understand more about their military history and their family composition/life around the time of WW1.  Interestingly Robert's Service record suggests that he was unfit to serve as a solider and was discharged soon after enlistment toward the end 1914.  I'm left wondering what he was really like.  I'm struggling to find details of William Eppleston / Appleston's birth and therefore parentage from 1850's.  Records suggest he was born in Stone (or Stoke) Staffordshire and was English rather than Irish.  Any help in this regard would be very much welcomed
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 10:10 BST (UK)
Robert's 1915 marriage lists father as William (the actual certificate will give Robert's residence as well as his father's occupation amongst other details). Possibly the family in 1911 (in which case father William born England but son Robert in Belfast)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Patrick_Street__Little/133838

same family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Thomas_Street/959999
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 10:52 BST (UK)
Outline family tree-

William Eppleston (c1860 Eng.-1913) m.(1881 Belfast) Mary Hunter (c1864 Co.Derry/Co.Antrim-1934).
     Marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYWH-SX7
     Death: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRVQ-76L
        1.   William Charles Eppleston (1882 Belfast-1912 Belfast).
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FB4M-722
             Death: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRJK-4T1
        2.   James Henry Eppleston (1884 Naas dist., Kildare).
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FB4B-JMR
        3.   Robert Edward Eppleston (1886 Belfast-1961) m.(1915) Hannah, m.(1925)
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBC5-RZ3
             Belfast City Cemetery- Public Ground (Z1 298)- Robert Applestone, age 75. S.A. Hostel (Rvh) Waring St. [Royal Victoria Hospital], died 16 June 1961, buried 19 June 1961. Under ‘Eppleston’ there are a few more burials.
        4.   Margaret “Maggie” Eppleston (1890 Belfast) m.(1911) William Melville, m.(1917) James Tynan
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FB81-GML
        5.   Hugh Eppleston (1893 Belfast-aft.1911).
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBXS-5J3
        6.   John Eppleston (1897 Belfast) m.(1919) Mary Ross
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBNF-2ZP
             Marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYX1-CY4
        7.   Mary Eppleston (1900 Belfast-1934) m.(1917) John Harbinson
             Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBVH-XZW

Belfast burial database- https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 11:00 BST (UK)
Belfast City Cemetery- Glenalina Extension (O 282)

Mary Eppleston, 71, York St Little George'S St Corner 25 Southwell St, died 1 Mar.1934
May Harbinson, 4, 19 Southwell St, died 14 Dec.1921
Thomas Harbinson, 3 1/2, 19 Southwell St, died 4 Dec.1923
Mary Harbinson, 34, 51 Lisburn Rd 14 Molyneaux St, died 19 June 1934
John Harbinson, 57, Harland & Wolff'S Shipyard [home] 7 Molyneaux St Belfast, died 25 Oct.1954
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 11:06 BST (UK)
Belfast City Cemetery- Public Ground:

William Applexton, 29, 17 Caroline St, died 3 Feb.1912
William Appleton, 63, Union Infirmary, died 14 Jan.1913
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 11:11 BST (UK)
Julie

William, a bachelor aged 30, married Mary Hunter on 29/08/1881 at St. Annes C of I.  His occupation is CPL 19th Regiment of Foot and address as Barracks Belfast.   Williams father is also William.  Mary's father James, a farmer.

As you know he was born in England and as a soldier this would explain how he came to be in Ireland.  His army pension records should be available and possibly his enlistement records.

Hannah looks as though she is to remain a mystery for now

Kings, thanks for the info

aghadowey, thank you for all your info
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 11:27 BST (UK)
Possibly Hannah in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Nelson_Street/933821

1901 census (link given earlier) lists William Eppleston as a pensioner.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: julie epp on Sunday 31 August 14 11:29 BST (UK)
wow, thanks all and apologies for 'hijacking' your thread re: Hannah
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 11:41 BST (UK)
Julie, its not a problem, Hannagh has been a mystery for so long ... Its a shame Anthony hasn't been back to the thread as he may have held some info, but you never know, he may revisit.  Have sent you a PM

aghadowey, thanks again, I have Hannagh on 1901 census but trying to figure out exactly who  she was in relation to the family   
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 11:42 BST (UK)
More details on another forum although some details may not be correct-
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=35783.0

'Recent' death notice to keep in mind-
http://classifieds.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/advert/northern-ireland/family-notices/death-notices/93885/Eppleston-Mary-Death

Gravestone of James Henry Eppleston-
http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=2727657

Hugh Eppleston died 1914 WWI-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~econnolly/rohsdgw/royalirishrifles/ririflesbat02.html
https://sites.google.com/site/ourheroesinmemoriam/belfast-ww1-roll-of-honour/surnames-a-b/surnames-c-d/surname-e-g
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 16:21 BST (UK)
I have re-visited the 1901 census family details.  Given that the head of the family John and his wife Hannah were married in 1895 it was logical therefore that Samuel, Isabella and Sarah may have been from his first marriage.  Thanks to recent online GRONI records I have now found both Isabella and Sarah's birth certs showing the mother to be Isabella BUNTING but I cannot find a birth cert for Samuel.  I cannot find a marriage cert for John and Isabella BUNTING and given that John remarried in 1895 I assumed that Isabella must have died .... but no death cert for her.  Have I missed something or can anyone else find any clues to these missings certs?  Help always gratefully received.
 
Samuel is also a mystery as he's not on the 1911 census and I cannot find an obvious marriage/death cert for him.  I've tried the 1911 Ancestry UK census without any luck and wondered whether perhaps he joined the army?   1901 census states he is a Tailor and I'ved looked at the BSD's around the time he was born and see there were some Buntings loosely connected to the industry and wondered whether someone may have come across him in his capacity as a Tailor in the subsequent years.  VB
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 17:03 BST (UK)
This is the 1901 possibility for Hannah Darragh that I posted earlier- is that the one you mean? if so Hannah is shown as boarder so quite probably she is not related to the head of household and his family:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Nelson_Street/933821

I have re-visited the 1901 census family details.  Given that the head of the family John and his wife Hannah were married in 1895 it was logical therefore that Samuel, Isabella and Sarah may have been from his first marriage.  Thanks to recent online GRONI records I have now found both Isabella and Sarah's birth certs showing the mother to be Isabella BUNTING but I cannot find a birth cert for Samuel.  I cannot find a marriage cert for John and Isabella BUNTING and given that John remarried in 1895 I assumed that Isabella must have died .... but no death cert for her.  Have I missed something or can anyone else find any clues to these missings certs?  Help always gratefully received.
Samuel is also a mystery as he's not on the 1911 census and I cannot find an obvious marriage/death cert for him.  I've tried the 1911 Ancestry UK census without any luck and wondered whether perhaps he joined the army?   1901 census states he is a Tailor and I'ved looked at the BSD's around the time he was born and see there were some Buntings loosely connected to the industry and wondered whether someone may have come across him in his capacity as a Tailor in the subsequent years.  VB
I feel like I've missed a large part of the messages here  :-\ Who are 'John and his wife Hannah' who married in 1895  ??? and Samuel  ???
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 21:02 BST (UK)
They are the family in the 1901census that you posted earlier today  (the family where Hannah is living), sorry for the confusion

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Nelson_Street/933821
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 August 14 22:03 BST (UK)
As I mentioned earlier, there are errors in your topic on other forum-
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,35783.0.html

It's quite obvious when you check census records, online trees, etc. that 'your' William Eppleston is NOT the one born Altrincham, Cheshire.
Title: Re: Tynan & Eppleston
Post by: Vita Brevis on Sunday 31 August 14 23:15 BST (UK)
As I mentioned earlier, there are errors in your topic on other forum-
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,35783.0.html

It's quite obvious when you check census records, online trees, etc. that 'your' William Eppleston is NOT the one born Altrincham, Cheshire.

Fortunately, any error of linking the wrong William to the wrong family 3 yrs ago didn't cause any grief to my research as, significantly, it was Hannah who held my interest but, I know what you mean, after all, who hasn't spent endless hours trawling through Irish resources only to find they've made an error  ::)