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Title: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Thursday 10 September 09 20:01 BST (UK)
1841 census lookup please for family details of John William STARKEY, born about 1833 Huddersfield.  Father William, mother Barbara [nee BUCKLEY].
Parents details found on IGI.
Any additional info would be most appreciated.

Regards, Mike
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 10 September 09 20:06 BST (UK)
1841
HO107/1275/10/34/24
william starkey junior age 35. occ. salesman
barbara age 30
john william age 7
charles age 5
george age 3
martha age 2
alfred age 1
living at;(looks like)kenton square,huddersfield
all born in county
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 10 September 09 20:08 BST (UK)
if this is them do you want later censuses of the family or do you already have that info
if you want the censuses then i will look tomorrow morning
off to work now.
mick
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Thursday 10 September 09 20:25 BST (UK)
It could well be them.
As much additional info as possible please. 
If it's the correct family John William marries Margaret Morrison in Feb 1860.

Is the spelling "Wiklliam Starkey jnr" your typo or census typo?

Best regards, Mike
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 12:17 BST (UK)
It could well be them.
As much additional info as possible please. 
If it's the correct family John William marries Margaret Morrison in Feb 1860.

Is the spelling "Wiklliam Starkey jnr" your typo or census typo?

Best regards, Mike
my mistake will amend name
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 12:33 BST (UK)
1851 transcribed as sturkey
HO107/2295/572/39
william starkey age 44. b. huddersfield. occ. (looks like)woolsorter. head.
barbara age 40. b. ditto. wife.
john william age 18. b. ditto. occ. (looks like)woolsorter. son.
charles age 16. b. ditto. son.
george age 15. b. ditto. son.
martha ann age 14. b. ditto. daughter.
alfred age 12. b. ditto. son.
joseph age 9. b. ditto. son.
thomas age 7. b. ditto. son.
henry age 2. b. ditto. son.
caroline age 2mnths. b. ditto. daughter.
josiah starkey age 39. b. marsh,yorkshire. occ.(looks like) woolsorter.  relative?
living at;trinity street,huddersfield.
reg.dist. 
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 13:25 BST (UK)
i cannot seem to find any of this family after the 1851 census entry
furthermore i cannot find a john william starkey to a margaret morrison marriage anywhere in england in 1860.
nor can i find a john starkey born 1831-1835 and wife margaret anywhere on the 1861 english census,
do you have the marr cert
if not what source do you have with regard to this marriage?

maybe SKS could have a look and see if they can find anything on the censuses.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 13:41 BST (UK)
forgot to mention believe this is definitely the right family all the childrens christenings are on the IGI
at ramsden street independant,huddersfield.
could they have emigrated before the 1861 census?
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Friday 11 September 09 18:05 BST (UK)
This makes sense as I believe they all moved to Scotland [may be moved back to Scotland??]. 
Not sure how many generations were in and around Huddersfield. 
Not sure where William and Barbara were married.  WRY looks likely.

The 1860 marriage of John is to Margaret from Kinross, Scotland [IGI].
William & Barbara seem to appear in the 1881 census in Clackmannan.

Many thanks for all the assistance.


Best regards, Mike
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 20:18 BST (UK)
1861
william starkey age 50. b. england. occ. wool sortewr. head.
barbara age 45. b. ditto. wife.
charles age 25. b. ditto. occ. linen draper. son.
martha age 23. b. ditto. daughter.
thomas age 17. b. ditto. occ. groom. son
caroline age 9. b. ditto. daughter.
living at; hallpark,alloa,clackmnnanshire
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 20:29 BST (UK)
1871 starkey
transcribed as starkie
william age 65. b. england. occ. wool sorter. head.
barbara age 61. b. ditto. wife.
charles age 36. b. ditto. occ. draper. son
martha age 32. b. ditto. occ. dressmaker. daughter.
caroline age 26?. b. ditto. occ. dressmaker. daughter.
living at;gaberston road,alloa.
i can only see what has been transcribed so carolines age could and probably has been mistranscribed.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 20:41 BST (UK)
here is the census entries for their son george
1861
george starkey age 24. b. huddersfield. occ. coachman
he is in the household of peter/ann brotherston
address;2,grange place,alloa
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:08 BST (UK)
going by the 1881 census for george this is him in 1871
hopelessly mistranscribed as stachey
1871
george starkey age 35. b. huddersfield. occ. butter sorter. head.
cecilia age 31. b. clackmannanshire. wife.
william.a. age 8. b. alloa. son.
john age 16mnths. b. ditto. son.
nevian robb age 36. b. lanarkshire. occ. cooper. lodger.
walter liddel age 19. b. linlithgow. occ. cooper. lodger.
living at;26 castle street,alloa

there is another son on the 1881 george born 1865
think this is him in 1871
1871
george starkey age 6. b. clackmannanshire. nephew
he is in the household of william /mary smith
address; 16,mar street,alloa.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:15 BST (UK)
here is the 1881 in case you do not have it
1881
george starkey age 45. b. england. occ. bottle packer. head.
cecilia age 41. b. cclackmannaman. wife.
william age 18. b. alloa. occ. plumber. son
george age 16. b. ditto. occ. baker. son
john age 11. b. ditto. son.
mary ann age 8. b. ditto. daughter.
james.b.r. age 6. b. ditto. son.
thomas age 3. b. ditto. son.
cecilia age 4mnths. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;broad street,alloa
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:29 BST (UK)
1891
george starkey age 55. b. england. occ. brewery labourer. head
cecilia age 51. b. parkmill,clackmannanshire. wife.
mary ann age 19. b. alloa. occ. woolen spinner in mill. daughter.
james.b.r. age 16. b. ditto. occ. apprentice coppersmith. son.
thomas.m. age 13. b. ditto. son.
cecilia age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
barbara age 7. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;25,castle street,alloa
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:35 BST (UK)
1901
george starkey age 66. b. england. occ. general labourer(unemployed). head
cecilia age 62. b. cclackmannon. wife.
thomas age 24. b. alloa. occ. gasworks labourer. son.
cecilia age 20. b. ditto. occ. glass house packer. daughter.
barbara age 18. b. ditto. occ. apprentice dressmaker. daughter.
living at;30,castle street,alloa.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:45 BST (UK)
here is possibly william/barbaras son charles in 1871
charles ed starkey age 31?. b. huddersfield. occ. captain in the 13th hussars.
he is living in the household of william mcbean occ. major in the 93rd s,highlanders
address; dunkeld road,perth.
enumeration dist; perth barracks.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:50 BST (UK)
this is definitely him in 1881
1881
barbara starkey age 69. b. england. head
charles age 45. b. england. occ. wool scourer. son
martha age 42. b. dditto. occ. seamstress. daughter.
caroline age 29. b. ditto. occ. seamstress.
living at;tulliallan,kincardine,perthshire.
it does not state whether barbara is widowed or married.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 21:56 BST (UK)
looks like barbara could have died by 1891
1891
charles starkey age 55. b. england. occ. woolen yarn scowes?. head
martha.a. age 52. b. ditto. occ. shirtmaker. sister.
caroline age 39. b. ditto. occ. shirtmaker. sister.
george wright age 17. b. granton,edinburgh. occ. woolen yarn scowes. lodger.
living at;rock cottage,scotlands close,tulliallan,kincardine,perthshire.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:00 BST (UK)
1901
charles starkey age 65. b. england. occ. worsted mill worker. head.
martha ann age 63. b. ditto. sister.
caroline age 49. b. ditto. sister
living at scotlands close,tulliallan,perthshire.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:08 BST (UK)
so you have the census entries for william /barbara, charles,george,martha,caroline.
still have to find john william,alfred,joseph,henry,
you have thomas in 1861 will look for him after that.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:19 BST (UK)
here is thomas in 1881
1881
thomas starkey age 38. b. yorkshire. occ. bottle packer. head.
helen age 38. b. clackmannaman. wife.
maggie age 16. b. ditto. daughter.
barbara age 14. b. ditto. daughter.
william age 12. b. ditto. son.
isabella age 9. b. ditto. daughter.
helen age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
henry age 2. b. ditto. son.
thomas age 1. b. ditto. son.
living at; st.johns court,alloa.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:26 BST (UK)
believe this could well be thomas in 1871
transcribed as florken
i will let you decide if you think this is them
this is the only family i coulfd find with the right forenames and birthplace.
1871
thomas florken age 25. b. england. occ. labourer. head.
ellen age 25. b. clackmannan. wife.
margaret age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
barbara age 3. b. ditto. daughter.
william age 1. b. ditto.
living at;tower virquel,clackmannan.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:37 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 22:50 BST (UK)
this is what is transcribed
1891
mrs margaret fenwick age 25. b. clackmannan. head.
helen fenwick age 6. b. alloa. daughter.
bruce fenwick age 1. b. ditto. son.
thomas starkie age 46. b. england. occ. packer. father.
helen starkie age 46. b. clackmannan. mother.
isabella starkie age 19. b. ditto. sister.
helen starkie age 16. b. ditto. sister.
george starkie age 6. b. ditto. brother.(transcribed as sister)
caroline starkie age 3. b. ditto. sister
barbara starkie age 83. b. clackmannan? sister(must be 23 not 83.)
isabella adams age 40. b. falkirk. occ. pottery worker.
janet harley age 36. b . ditto. occ. pottery worker.
living at john court,broad street,alloa
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 23:01 BST (UK)
1901
thomas starkey age 55. b. england. occ. wood merchant. head.
helen age 55. b. clackmannan. wife.
barbara age 33. b. ditto. occ. domestic table maid. daughter.
helen age 26. b. ditto. occ. ?. daughter.
henry age 24. b. ditto. occ. bottle blower. son.
thomas age 22. b. ditto. occ. ?. son.
george age 16. b. ditto. occ. apprentice bottle blower. son
caroline age 12. b. ditto. daughter.
georgina young starkey age 8. b. alloa. grand daughter.
living at;2,ward street,alloa.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 September 09 23:46 BST (UK)
john must have married twice elizabeth must be his daughter from the marr to margaret
1881
john starkey age 48. b. huddersfield. occ. wool sorter. head
christean age34. b. kinross. wife.
elizabeth age 20. b. st.ninians,stirling. occ. tweed darner. daughter.
john marshall starkey age 14. b. kinross. son.
jane age 12. b. ditto. daughter
barbara age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
christian age 8. b. st.ninians. daughter
charles age 6. b. ditto. son.
isabella age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
george age 3. b. ditto. son
martha ann age 8mnths. b. ditto. daughter.
living at; hayfield square,st.ninians,stirlingshire.
will see if i can find him in earlier censuses

Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 12 September 09 00:29 BST (UK)
cannot find him in earlier censuses at this time
here he is in 1891
1891
john.w.starkey age 57.b. england. occ. wool sorter. head.
christina age 44. b. kinross. wife.
john.m. age 23. b. ditto. occ. wool sorter. son
janet age 22. b. ditto. occ. woolen darner. daughter.
barbara age 19. b. ditto. occ. woolen twister. daughter.
charles age 17. b. cambusbarron,stirlingshire. occ. apprentice blacksmith. son.
isabella age 15. b. ditto. occ. woolen weaver. daughter
george age 13. b. ditto. occ. apprentice grocer. son
martha ann age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
caroline age 8. b. ditto. daughter.
margaret age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
sarah ann age 4. b. ditto. daughter.
robert.k. age 1. b. ditto. son
living at;14,hayford square,st.ninians,stirlingshire
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 12 September 09 00:48 BST (UK)
don't know where john/christina are in 1901 but here are the children
1901
christina starkey age 28. b. st.ninians. occ. housekeeper. head.(wonder if this is elizabeth in 1891 census)
charles age 26. b. cambusbarron. occ. whinstone quarry?. brother
martha.a. age 20. b. ditto. occ. dressmaker. sister.
maggie age 16. b. ditto. occ. apprentice miliner. sister.
sarah age 14. b. ditto. occ. domestic servant. sister.
robert.k. age 1. b. ditto. brother(obviously age is  mistranscribed should be 11)
alfred.a. age 7. b. ditto. brother.
living at; hayford square,st.ninians,stirlingshire.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: sstarr2008 on Wednesday 17 March 10 22:00 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Do you know anything about the William Starkey who married Barbara Buckley?
Could he belong to this family:

               
   1     William Starkey   b: 26 Sep 1776 in Huddersfield      d: 05 Mar 1843 in Huddersfield
.      +Martha Royston   b: 1777   m: 19 Jun 1796 in Halifax   d: 24 Mar 1821 in Huddersfield
..   2     Starkey   b: 10 Aug 1798 in Huddersfield      
..   2     Eliza Starkey   b: 29 Jul 1800 in Huddersfield      d: 13 Aug 1833 in Louisville, USA
..   2     Mary Starkey   b: 09 Jul 1803 in Huddersfield      d: 29 Jul 1820 in Huddersfield
..   2     Josiah Starkey   b: 04 Sep 1809 in Huddersfield      
..   2     Sarah Starkey   b: 23 Jul 1811 in Huddersfield      
..   2     Charles Edwin Starkey   b: 22 Nov 1813 in Huddersfield      
..   2     Caroline Starkey   b: 28 May 1818 in Huddersfield      d: 19 Jul 1831 in Huddersfield

If so I can trace his ancestry way back.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: sstarr2008 on Thursday 18 March 10 09:19 GMT (UK)
I had some notes given which say the following about William Starkey:

Born 17 Jul 1709

Baptism 4 Sep 1809 at Highfield Independent.
This seems to be the birth and baptism of Josiah Starkey though!

Died 25 Jun 1880 at Tulliallan, Kincardine, Scotland

I think that William was born about 1806 and probably baptised at Highfield.
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Thursday 18 March 10 09:31 GMT (UK)
My wife is a descendant of William Starkey & Barbara Buckley.  I have found it difficult to go back much further but I do have the following names that I was going to do further research on.
William Starkey
Martha Royston
John Buckley
Ann [possibly Brown]

I have not been able to pin down the date of birth for William [~1806] but have scans of documents from the Scottish Archives that I can pass on to you.

Please let me have your email address and I will invite you to view the Starkey family tree we have.

Kind regards, Mike
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Thursday 18 March 10 09:43 GMT (UK)
Hi
William Starkey, woolsorter, died 25th June 1880 in Kinkardine, Tulliallan parish.  His age is given as 73. 
Charles Starkey [son] present at death.
Wife shown as Barbara Buckley.
Parents are shown as William Starkey, Farmer [deceased] and Martha Royston [deceased].

Hope this is useful.

Mike
Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: PTP on Saturday 03 August 13 09:38 BST (UK)
John William Starkey married Elizabeth Morrison, daughter of my GG Grandfather, John Morrison (1821-????), on 13 February, 1860, here in Cambusbarron. They had 3 children: Elizabeth, born in Kinross in 1860;William, born probably in Cambusbarron in 1862; and Barbara, born, and died, in 1864. Sadly, Elizabeth herself died that same year.

John then married a 'Johann Gancy' on 1st June, 1865, but she seems also to have passed away fairly soon, for John married for the third time on 26 November, 1866, to Christian Marshall: I know of two births here: John Marshall Starkey, b 12 September, 1867, and Janet, b 20 Dec 1868 - both in Kinross.

Of the Morrison - Starkey children, I know nothing more of William.  Elizabeth married an Alexander Crawford (b 1857) but when and where, I don't know. They had 3 children that I know of: William, Christina and John William. About the two males, again, I have nothing, but know that Christina married a James Thomas Angus in Stirling in 1918. They then emigrated to the USA, the husband going in 1923, the wife in 1925. A son, William A Angus, was born there in 1927.

The name Starkey was a prominent one in our village of Cambusbarron (in St Ninians Parish) for a long time, though not so today. A George Starkey ran a grocer's shop here in the early sixties, and a late Starkey lady, who ran a fashionable ladies' clothes shop in nearby Stirling throughout the eighties, was a good friend of my mother-in-law. But the most prominent locally - and further afield - was Bob Starkey, a legendary Highland sportsman: I have many scanned cuttings of his career: here's the entry in a local history book 'A Cambusbarron Tapestry' about Bob:

Starkey, Robert (1890-1956): when he died, this Cambusbarron man was described in the Observer as

the most outstanding heavy events athlete to come out of the Stirling area, and during the period between the end of the First World War and 1926, he was supreme in most events in the Scottish Highland Games circuit.  

He held and broke many records for throwing at Highland Games all over Scotland, and in Army or Services competition. He was also a champion Cumberland Wrestler. His reign might have been longer but for WW1. He became a policeman, then a soldier both during the War and after it, but began his working life in his native village, as a lime miner. In 1924, he was one of the coaches appointed to the British team at the Paris Olympics. And if not in Chariots of Fire, he does feature to this day as the highlander on the front of Scott’s Porage Oats packets – or, at least, his body does: over the years, his ageing face was constantly updated into more modern versions; but the frame remains that of Robert. One former Graham & Morton employee remembers him in his fifties, arriving at the dispatch area at the back of their King Street premises (entered through the Town Wall) and lugging quite comfortably, one in each outstretched hand, two large milk canisters, full of paraffin, to his car, parked several streets away. These, when full, took two G & M men to lift each one – onto a trolley before emerging into the street.

Happy to send you any of the cuttings, etc I have. hope this helps.

PTP

Title: Re: LOOKUP PLEASE John William STARKEY born about 1833
Post by: BMikeW on Saturday 03 August 13 17:59 BST (UK)
Hello Peter.  Thanks for the response which repeats your response of November 2011.  A senior moment perhaps!!!  Good to see that you are still actively researching our ancestors.  Best wishes, Mike Wright