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Title: haydock
Post by: jordan 1 on Thursday 10 September 09 01:05 BST (UK)
hi; am new to this and loving it. thanks to everyone b4 me much is already known, but maybe not all. gggggg grandfather is john haydock (of stangmore) born 1698 in stangmore. then i read that it is in dungannon and tyrone, need help with wich one is correct. he married rebecca whitfield june 16, 1710 according to what i have found. his father, john haydock of stangmore, died in stangmore. nothing on his wife. conflicting info about his children, nothing on his parents. it seems that some were quaker and some catholic. can't wait to hear from some one. thanks             also, are there any ways to view quaker records  online
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: sword on Sunday 25 October 09 00:53 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm *very* new to RootsChat but experienced for fifteen years in RootsWeb. I have relatives named Haydock that married into my Espey line in Cookstown and Dungannon, County Tyrone, Ireland. I'm in touch with a relative who is a direct descendant named Haydock.
Cheers.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 25 October 09 07:30 GMT (UK)
Jordan,
           I cannot find Strangmore or anything like it but Dungannon is a town in the County of Tyrone in Northern Ireland
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: TF13 on Sunday 25 October 09 09:35 GMT (UK)
there are 2 townlands in county tyrone with the name;Stangmore(Knox) and Stangmore(Magee) both in the parish of Clonfeacle. Stangmore(Knox) is just outside of Dungannon on the Moy road.

Tony
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: SandyHook on Friday 26 April 13 01:18 BST (UK)
I am new to this forum, so am reading your post 4 years after you posted it.  However, I am in contact with someone who has done research on the Haydock family in Killyman parish near Dungannon.  The family were Quakers.  Susan Cross, b. 1935, married Thomas Haydock and then emigrated to the US.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Saturday 08 July 23 05:11 BST (UK)
hi my name is George E. H. Haydock.B. Belfast N. Ireland my GG Thomas was B.1847.
a presbyterian in Lowertown  Bernagh Co .Tyrone. I'm unsure who Thomas Father was, Isaac son
of John B.1801, John & Mary 1742 son John & Rebcca 1698 son Iscca & Jane Quaker/Presbyterian
If anyone has any information on my G.G.Thomas Haydock and his Tyrone Family.
Many thanks
George.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 July 23 11:17 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

When and were (and who) did Thomas Haydock marry? is his father's name listed on marriage registration?
I looked in 1901 census but didn't see a match for him.
This one in 1911 census fits age-wise but the family is Church of Ireland-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Danube_Street/151202/
Same family in 1901-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Vistula_Street/950622/
Possibly son Henry (Haddock) with mother listed as Margaret Majury)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02197/1830296.pdf
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 July 23 13:15 BST (UK)
I am new to this forum, so am reading your post 4 years after you posted it.  However, I am in contact with someone who has done research on the Haydock family in Killyman parish near Dungannon.  The family were Quakers.  Susan Cross, b. 1935, married Thomas Haydock and then emigrated to the US.

I know the above is 10 years old now but perhaps the reason there were no replies posted at the time is an incorrect date? Thomas Haydock married Susan Cross in 1872 in Illinois- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2PJ-4BC
Submitted tree doesn't list parents-
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LVV3-B5C
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 12 July 23 00:24 BST (UK)
Hi,George E.H. Haydock
Starting with what i know so far.  John married Mary Hinshan their son John married Rebcca
( Whitfield ) ? their son Isaac married  Jane ?  Changing from Quaker  To Presbyterian .
I belive their son Thomas married Margaret ? from Co. Down. their son Samuel married
Elizbeth Brown ( Belfast )their son Henry married Olive Houston ( Belfast) their son George E.H.(me)
married Elaine (Curry ) Neale. their son George moved to N.S.W. Aus. George married Kyle
 Cockburn N.S.W. Australia their son is Baily Haydock (today 2023. )
If you have other information  WE THANKYOU  Cheers George...
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 12 July 23 03:50 BST (UK)
mis spelt name
John Haydock married Mary Hinshaw not  Hinshan  Thomas Haydock B. 1847 in Lowertown Bernagh
Co. Tyrone  N. Ireland. he was a house repairer (builder ) I belive the father of John was John  of
Stangmore  Dungannon Co. Tyrone...
Cheers George
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 12 July 23 08:15 BST (UK)

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Stangmore(Knox) and Stangmore(Magee) both in the parish of Clonfeacle. Stangmore(Knox) is just outside of Dungannon on the Moy road.


Stangmore (Knox) townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-middle/clonfeacle-tyrone-portion/bernagh/stangmore-knox/

Stangmore (Magee) townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-middle/clonfeacle-tyrone-portion/moy/stangmore-magee/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5477943#map=13/54.4946/-6.7528


Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 12 July 23 09:50 BST (UK)
 HI Kiltaglassan,
George G.E. Haydock. Bundaberg Qld.
HAVE YOU ANY INFORMATION on Haydock family's living in Lowertown around 1845 46 47.
Im looking for the family that Thomas Haydock born1847. Who was his father & mother brothers
and sisters ,Can you help me

Cheers George.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 12 July 23 10:15 BST (UK)
Hi, Jordan1.
George E.H.Haydock from Bundaberg Qld.
re John Haydock born 1698 married Rebecca Whitfield .also maybe his parents are,
John &Mary Hinshaw ( 1742 )

Cheers George
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 12 July 23 11:19 BST (UK)
The  Haydock family's from Thomas Born 1847 Tyrone were Church of Ireland & Presbyterians...
And  From Belfast & Bundaberg Qld ...

Cheers George E.H.Haydock...
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Thursday 13 July 23 06:53 BST (UK)
Hi, Aghadowey.
Re Thomas Haydock 1901 census Vistula Street Age 52 Head of family.
                              1911 Census they were living in Danube age 64 Head of Family Occupation Labourer./ house repairer born Co.Tyrone and C.of I.Born 1847 Lowertown Bernagh Co.Tyrone
 
 N. Ireland some familys became Free Presbyterians.

Cheers George E.H.Haydock
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 13 July 23 07:48 BST (UK)
Re Thomas Haydock 1901 census Vistula Street Age 52 Head of family.
                              1911 Census they were living in Danube age 64 Head of Family Occupation Labourer./ house repairer born Co.Tyrone and C.of I.Born 1847 Lowertown Bernagh Co.Tyrone
 
 N. Ireland some familys became Free Presbyterians.

That's the family I posted about in reply #6. Are you saying that is the correct Thomas Haydock?
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 13 July 23 07:51 BST (UK)
The closest marriage I can find is the following one in 1873 in St. Anne's Church of Ireland, Belfast, between  Thomas Haddock and Margaret Major, the father of the 25 year old groom is shown as William James Haddock:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8129228.pdf

Title: Re: haydock
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 13 July 23 07:58 BST (UK)

The closest marriage I can find is the following one in 1873 in St. Anne's Church of Ireland, Belfast, between  Thomas Haddock and Margaret Major, the father of the 25 year old groom is shown as William James Haddock:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8129228.pdf


The following 1880 birth of a son William James to Thomas Haddock and Margaret Major is a reasonable match for William James 'Haydock' in the 1901 Ireland Census return for house #36 in Vistula Street, so looking like the right folk:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02865/2049694.pdf

Edited to add:  So it looks as if we have a bit of loose naming with Haddock / Haydock and Major / Majury, par for the course.

Title: Re: haydock
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 13 July 23 09:48 BST (UK)
Hi, Jordan1.
..................................
re John Haydock born 1698 married Rebecca Whitfield .also maybe his parents are,
John &Mary Hinshaw ( 1742 )

Unfortunately, the original poster hasn't been online here since September 2009.

If they have the same e-mail address they registered with on RootsChat and still have notifications for replies turned on, then they should receive an e-mail to tell them of your post.

Since they only posted once, it's unlikely that they may return here to communicate with you.

Best of luck!  :)


Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Thursday 13 July 23 13:00 BST (UK)

Hi, Gaffy George E.H.Haydock.
Thomas Haydock was born Haydock Lowertown Bernagh Co. Tyrone in 1911 age 64 at 33 Danube Street in Belfast.
Thomas Haydock (Haddock) Age was 52 in1901 at 36 Vistula Street .So in 1911 ? 62years old
They are Two different families
  Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 13 July 23 13:23 BST (UK)

Thomas Haydock was born Haydock Lowertown Bernagh Co. Tyrone in 1911 age 64 at 33 Danube Street in Belfast.

Thomas Haydock (Haddock) Age was 52 in1901 at 36 Vistula Street .So in 1911 ? 62years old
They are Two different families
 

The 1901 and 1911 folk look like the same family to me. The age inconsistency between censuses is inconsequential and well within normal parameters for that era.  The only notable difference between the two census returns is Thomas' birth place (Co. Antrim in 1901, Co. Tyrone in 1911), but regardless, I'm content that this is the same family in 1901 and 1911, ie. Thomas Haddock/Haydock (father William James) and Margaret Major/Majury and children.

Maybe fresh eyes on this by someone else will prove it right or wrong.

Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Friday 14 July 23 08:19 BST (UK)
     Hi, Gaffy.
 36 Vistula Street Family were Thomas .Maggie .Martha ann .William James. John .  Samuel .
Lizzie . Henery . Maggie . (11)

33 Danube Street .Thomas .Margaret .Samuel ..Margaret .Henry . (5)
 Samuel & Elizabeth and their son Thomas .  age one .
  Thomas Born 1847 I belive he was Baptise in one of two Churghs .Newmills Presbyterian or .
   Carland Presbyterian. both in Dungannon...
  Cheers George E.H.                                       
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 14 July 23 09:00 BST (UK)
Newmills and Carland are both outside Dungannon.

I think you are confusing the things that you suppose to be true and the records which have been found. So let’s work back in a logical manner to help you get your head around it all.

From an earlier post on this thread you said “… Samuel married Elizbeth Brown ( Belfast )their son Henry married …”

Marriage of Samuel Haydock to Elizabeth Brown on 29 Dec.1908-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10069/5662511.pdf
Samuel is a machine man. His address is 63 Danube St. & father Thomas Haydock, builder.

Which ties in with the Haydock family Danube St. in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Danube_Street/151202/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001445784/
This shows that the actual street address is 63 Danube St. which is the same as Samuel’s address when he got married just over 2 years earlier. Thomas listed as house repairer & Samuel as labourer.

Samuel & Elizabeth Haydock have a son Thomas in the 1911 Census. Here’s his birth-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01585/1637963.pdf
Parents listed as Samuel Haydock & Lizzie Brown.

Samuel & Elizabeth did have several other children, including a son Henry in 1917-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01322/1546302.pdf

Therefore that Haydock family living at 63 Danube St. in 1911 is most certainly your family.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Friday 14 July 23 13:28 BST (UK)
 
 HI, Gaffy.
Good on you, And thankyou my mistake #8 on Samuel married Elizbeth (Belfast)Henry my Father
Married Olive Houston my Mother .
The Haydock Family Lived in Houses in Danube Street 33 + others. Also Geoffrey Street  BOTH are
Beside each other OFF Crumlin Road.
Samuel & Elizbeth son Thomas moved to Canada around 1945\46..
 I hope you can help me with #5.and #11 .and once again a big thankyou so Helpful.
   Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 14 July 23 14:51 BST (UK)
HI, Gaffy.
Good on you, And thankyou my mistake #8 on Samuel married Elizbeth (Belfast)Henry my Father Married Olive Houston my Mother .
The Haydock Family Lived in Houses in Danube Street 33 + others. Also Geoffrey Street  BOTH are
Beside each other OFF Crumlin Road.
Samuel & Elizbeth son Thomas moved to Canada around 1945\46..
 I hope you can help me with #5.and #11 .and once again a big thankyou so Helpful.
   Cheers George E.H.

Marriage of Samuel Haydock & Elizabeth BROWN in 1908-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10069/5662511.pdf

Reply #11- "Im looking for the family that Thomas Haydock born1847. Who was his father & mother brothers and sisters"
That information very easily found from details at start of one of these Haydock threads, vital records, etc.
Thomas Haddock's marriage to Margaret Major lists his father as William James Haddock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8129228.pdf
William James Haddock's marriage lists his father as Joseph Haddock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1846/09306/5369537.pdf
I found 7 children of William James & Martha but there could be others.

Reply #8- "their son Henry married Olive Houston"
Henry Major Haydock m.(1921) Elizabeth Clarke-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09230/5339985.pdf
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 15 July 23 10:53 BST (UK)

Further to aghadowey's comment...reply #24-

Reply #8- "their son Henry married Olive Houston"

Marriage
Henry Haydock to Olive Houston      18th November 1939          Belfast
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Saturday 15 July 23 12:20 BST (UK)
Hi Kiltaglassan

 Thankyou for you great support ,with my building a family trace.
 Yes Henry (m) Olive Houston .(MY Mum &Dad ) #8
my problem is Thomas Haydock born 1847 in Lowertown Bernagh Co Tyrone. a Presbyterian im looking for his Father & family from Tyrone. Some claim they were Haddock. Then why carrie the Haydock name ??? Please prove me right or wrong .And proof OF his family...

Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 15 July 23 16:16 BST (UK)
Hi Kiltaglassan

 Thankyou for you great support ,with my building a family trace.
 Yes Henry (m) Olive Houston .(MY Mum &Dad ) #8
my problem is Thomas Haydock born 1847 in Lowertown Bernagh Co Tyrone. a Presbyterian im looking for his Father & family from Tyrone. Some claim they were Haddock. Then why carrie the Haydock name ??? Please prove me right or wrong .And proof OF his family...

Cheers George E.H.

Please go back and re-read all the information several of us have posted for you. Especially reply #24 which reads in part-
Quote
Reply #11- "Im looking for the family that Thomas Haydock born1847. Who was his father & mother brothers and sisters"
That information very easily found from details at start of one of these Haydock threads, vital records, etc.
Thomas Haddock's marriage to Margaret Major lists his father as William James Haddock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8129228.pdf
William James Haddock's marriage lists his father as Joseph Haddock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1846/09306/5369537.pdf
I found 7 children of William James & Martha but there could be others.

Haddock and Haydock, which sound the same, are just different versions of the same surname.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 15 July 23 23:04 BST (UK)
Meant to add that I can see no proof that your Haydocks were Presbyterian from civil records which is not to say that they weren't earlier or at a more recent period.
William James Haydock & Martha Baxter were married COI although marriages usually take place in the bride's church. However, three of their daughter also have COI marriage ceremonies (as well as three of their sons).
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Sunday 16 July 23 00:43 BST (UK)

 Hi, EVERY ONE.
 looking at the information. Joseph haddock date ? was the father of William James Haddock who was married to Marttha Bexter 1846 they had  7 kids is Thomas Haydock born 1847 from Lowertown
Bernagh Co Tyrone A Presbyterian their son. And is Jacobs son John of Stangmore Tyrone ,
descended from Haydock's of Lancashire (HAYDOCK ) if not who.

Once Again a big  thanks For your support. Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Sunday 16 July 23 00:48 BST (UK)
 
 And is John of Stangmore Tyrone ,part of my family ?
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Monday 17 July 23 01:49 BST (UK)
Hi, Every one.

  Im Studying, which married couple. In 1847 Give Birth to Thomas Haydock house 1 to 6
Lowertown Bernagh Co. Tyrone. Was it...
 Isaac Born(1802)  married Jane Born ( 1802 )  (M) 1817 .

Thomas Born 1804 married Eliza Born ( ? )         (M) 1823 .

William James Haddock Married Martha Bexter 1846.They give birth to 7 children .
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 17 July 23 08:53 BST (UK)
I really don't understand this last post-
Hi, Every one.

  Im Studying, which married couple. In 1847 Give Birth to Thomas Haydock house 1 to 6
Lowertown Bernagh Co. Tyrone. Was it...
 Isaac Born(1802)  married Jane Born ( 1802 )  (M) 1817 .

Thomas Born 1804 married Eliza Born ( ? )         (M) 1823 .

William James Haddock Married Martha Bexter 1846.They give birth to 7 children .

It is quite clear who the father of Thomas Haddock is from his marriage record- William James Haddock/Haydock who married Martha Bagster/Baxter.
Please post the names of the 7 children of William James & Martha that you have found.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Tuesday 18 July 23 00:06 BST (UK)
 
 Once again Thank you for great input,
The names of 7  children, Born to William J. & Martha (married 1846 )not known yet?
but her first born boy would be Thomas born 1847 Haydock. Who's family change religion.
From  Quaker to Presbyterian ? and name change from Haddock to Haydock????Please let me
hear your thoughts , Was he the first of 7??? And who were the 6 others ???
Always thankful for your information...
Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Tuesday 18 July 23 01:10 BST (UK)
Extra .
Thomas  Haydock born1847 married Margaret they had 3 children,  Samuel .Margaret .Henry.
Thomas And Margaret married in a C. of I. Church and their  3 children became C. of I.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Tuesday 18 July 23 04:10 BST (UK)
 
 But if William James & Marther Bexter had a child in 1849 called Thomas ?
 They would be Thomas & Maggie of house 36 Vistula street Belfast, a family of 7children.
Martha .William James . John . Samuel .Lizzie . Henery .Maggie ...Not my family branch.

  Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 18 July 23 09:23 BST (UK)
Quote
The names of 7  children, Born to William J. & Martha (married 1846 )not known yet?
but her first born boy would be Thomas born 1847 Haydock. Who's family change religion.
From  Quaker to Presbyterian ? and name change from Haddock to Haydock????Please let me
hear your thoughts , Was he the first of 7??? And who were the 6 others
Haddock and Haydock are just different forms of the same surname so they didn’t ‘change’ their name. Into the 1900s as literacy improved and spelling started becoming more standardised, people tended to adopt one version of their name.
So it seems you haven’t actually bothered to look for the other 6 children of William James & Martha. The 7 children found so far (there might have been others) were Thomas, Jane, Susan, Samuel, Richard, Elizabeth & Martha.

Quote
Thomas  Haydock born1847 married Margaret they had 3 children,  Samuel .Margaret .Henry.
Thomas And Margaret married in a C. of I. Church and their  3 children became C. of I.
Why do you say Thomas and Margaret had three children? 1911 census (which has posted before) says they had eleven children but only 7 living. 7 children: Martha Ann, William James, John, Samuel, Elizabeth, Henry Major, Margaret.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Danube_Street/151202/

Quote
But if William James & Marther Bexter had a child in 1849 called Thomas ?
 They would be Thomas & Maggie of house 36 Vistula street Belfast, a family of 7children.
Martha .William James . John . Samuel .Lizzie . Henery .Maggie ...Not my family branch.
The family in the 1901 census living at Vistula St. is your family. The number 36 is the household number for that particular census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Vistula_Street/950622/
The 1901 directory gives an R. Simpson, tailor, at 36 Vistula St. Thomas Haddock, labourer, is listed at 42 Vistula St.
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/tuvcomplete1901.htm
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 19 July 23 06:42 BST (UK)
 
Hi everyone.
  (A) Thomas Haydock born 1849 birth place Co. Antrim in 1911 was age 62 a G. labor.
living  at 36 Vistula St. Belfast. Parents to 7 children.( known )

  (B) Thomas Haydock Born 1847 birth place Co. Tyrone in 1911 was age 64 a builder/house repairs
living at 33 Danube St. Belfast, parents to 3 children ( known ).
My family belongs to Haydock's  from  Danube St. Belfast...I believe Thomas born1847 Presbyterian /
then Married  as Church of Ireland. the Son of Isaac & Jane Quaker/Presbyterian. Son of John/Mary. 
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 19 July 23 07:52 BST (UK)
Thomas Haydock in 1911 lived at 63 Danube St.-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Danube_Street/151202/ (33 is the number of the household for that particular census NOT the address)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001445784/ (street address shown as 63 Danube St.)

This is the same family as the Thomas Haydock living at Vistula St. in 1901 (not 1911)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Vistula_Street/950622/

Thomas is NOT the son of Isaac, etc. In numerous posts I have explained this, given sources, etc. and yet you still keep posting inaccurate information. Thomas' marriage gives his father as William James, William James clearly existed and everything I found so far shows a clear link between Thomas and his parents William James & Martha.
What you do not know is that in doing countless searches I have found far more details than I have posted here. I can see there is no point in posting more (and I notice others have already stopped posting on this thread) since you do not want to hear anything that doesn't agree with your mistaken theories.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 19 July 23 13:15 BST (UK)
HI Aghadowey I'm so sorry  and i apologize to you, it was the dates that had me so confused.
 After i wrote everything you had put to me ,on a list i have realise Thomas born change the dates
From 1847 t0 1849. your advice to me makes sense. So William James & Matha Bexterwas Thomas Haydock who married Margaret Major from Co. Down.and William James father was Joseph Haddock.
and was Joseph the son of John& Mary Hinshaw ?
Can i ask Forgiveness as i need your help and will except your advice...                                                                                             

  Cheers George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Friday 21 July 23 05:20 BST (UK)
 Sorry in post # 39 it should have read,William James & Matha Bexter,was Thomas Haydock's
 parents, Who married. Margaret Major...If you can  find it in your hart.To forgive Me..I will have an
open mind to your advice. I am sorry to every one,  and wish for all your input... any information.
I will appretiace.
George E.H.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 09 August 23 03:16 BST (UK)
Hi, George here,
     I need your help to move forward, from William James Haddock/Haydock and Matha Baxter. -
    (Bexter ) married Tyrone 1846, William James. father, was Joseph Haddock/Haydock, who was his
     mother.
     Names of family heads, going back to Haydock's from Lancaster (Quaker/C of E / RC.) all the way
     back to Orm and John De Haydock. (1100 AD? ) Other names used Haddock - Heddoch -Haidoc
     Hedoc +...All the research, anyone may add to feedback, or comments provided in response.
      Any information you my add. I thank you...
     Cheers George...
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: KILDRESS on Tuesday 29 August 23 23:50 BST (UK)
Hope you don't mind me joining in.      Joseph Haydock, a farmer from Glasmullagh near Cookstown had a son William James who was born about 1823 and died at Dunadry, Co antrim on 2 Feb 1887.
At Kildress CoI   in 1846 he married Martha Bagster.     I'll pause there.   Names were spelt the way they sounded to the person writing it.    Hence Baxter and Bagster and Haydock and Haddock were interchangeable.   Martha's father was Richard, a farmer.      They  had children and the one of interest to me is Susan Haydock (Susanna Haddock)   born  1854 and died 1918.    She had married Sam Galbraith and moved into the Shankill  via Co Antrim near Templepatrick.     I know Susan had a sister called Elizabeth who married a gamekeeper called Johnson from Derryaghy  and emigrated to USA.       

Susan and Sam were my G G grandparents. They lost a son in France in 1917 and Susan didn't last long after that. Sam had died in 1903.    My interest is in getting back as far as I can.    I would like to know more about Joseph Haydock and where they came from.  I am presuming England.

Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Saturday 16 September 23 08:09 BST (UK)
Hi,
Kildress  so good of you to give me advice, on Joseph Haydock a famer believe he married.
Cathrine (Thompson ) ?Joseph was the son of John Haydock ( Haddock ) and Mary Hinshaw Stangmore ?
. I believe that Haydock Family Came from Lancaster and were a mix of RC. C.of E. And Quaker..
my missing link is they go back to Orm De Haydock1168 Hedoc 1169 Heddoch 1170 Haidoc.
 and going to Cottam hall in the parish of Preston ...
So im still filling in the blanks, so many thanks for your great help.
Cheers George
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 16 September 23 13:07 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, Kildress  :)

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Joseph Haydock, a farmer from Glasmullagh near Cookstown had a son William James who was born about 1823 and died at Dunadry, Co antrim on 2 Feb 1887.

Some links-

His death aged 58 yrs at Ballybentragh, Nilteen Grange. His daughter Martha Haydock the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06227/4781862.pdf

Ballybentragh townland
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-upper/grange-of-nilteen/donegore/ballybentragh/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4492683#map=12/54.7149/-6.1232


Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Monday 18 September 23 05:29 BST (UK)

 Hi
 kILTAGLASSAN
 Let me thank you for all the information. Helping me to grow my Haydock Tree.
 Please give me any Information from Joseph of Glasmuullagh ( Cookstown) His wife's name.
 Joseph Father and his Father & Mother...
.and any connections From Tyrone back too Cottam Hall Preston.
 Every little information, i thankyou for your time and great advice...
 Cheers George.....
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Saturday 07 October 23 08:15 BST (UK)
 
  To all of you hard working teams ,who never say Di. If you are a little slow, on your understanding from their point of view or Reply.They never let you down.they will help you All the way ,NO matter what the task. Their service and information 100% Thankyou ....

  George
 
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Friday 24 November 23 06:17 GMT (UK)
just some more information on my Haydock family, if you see any change please let me know,
George Haydock Jnr. (b) 1968  (m) Kyle Cockburn  Sydney 1970?
George E H Haydock (b) 1945  (m1)Elaine Neale. (m2)Jeanette Neale
Henry   Haydock       (b) 1943  (m) Olive Houston   Belfast N. Ireland 1941
Samuel Haydock       (b) 1886  (m) Elizabeth brown Belfast N. Ireland 1908
Thomas Haydock       (b) 1847  (m) Margaret Major  Belfast N. Ireland 1873
William  Haydock       (b) 1823  (m) Martha  Baxter  Tyrone  N. Ireland  1846
Joseph   Haydock       (b) 1791  (m) Catherine Thompson Tyrone N. Ireland 1826
Henry    Haydock       (b) 1764  (m) Frances Bell        Tyrone  N. Ireland  1796
Jacob    Haydock       (b)1717    (m) Mary Hinshaw Tyrone N. Ireland     1742
John Jnr Haydock      (b) 1680   (m) Abigall Griffith descended of Lancashire 1705
John      Haydock      (b) 1640   (m) Ellen Milner Coppull 1679             Egland UK
John      Haydock      (b) 1614   (m) Alice Nightingale    1639  Lancashire England UK
John      Haydock      (b) 1562   (m) Elizabeth Whalley   1608  Lancashire England UK
Roger    Haydock      (b)  15 35  (m) Margaret Munk      1560  Lancashire England UK
William  Haydock      (b)  1515 ???
Cheers George....             
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Thursday 22 February 24 10:56 GMT (UK)


  All the claim= from Hugh De Standish Is Haydock all Standish Its not Standish the blood line (male is Haydock Hugh De Haydock Dropped the Haydock and called him self Hugh De standish off Standish
After his wife's mothers maiden name..

   Cheers George
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Sunday 15 September 24 05:33 BST (UK)
Hi,i have a change to Haydock/Haddock male blood line, From William James (m) Martha Bexter 1846
Remove Joseph (m) Catherine Thompson. To read Joseph  (m)Margaret Hinshaw 1747/48.The father
of William James Haydock.  Remove Henry (m) Frances Bell 1796, to Jacob (m) Mary Hinshaw1742..
 Just a though When Sir Hugh De Haydock/Haddock made his name as Sir Hugh De Standish in the
1350? I wonder have some of the Standish family, came back to their Haydock /Haddock Male blood line as their Standish Breed are Haydock's/Haddocks If you have any positive Haydock/Haddock
Genealogy different consideration please add on...

George Haydock
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: AHaydock on Wednesday 30 October 24 20:32 GMT (UK)
Hi. I have just joined Roots and am researching my dad's family - Haydock ( he was Peter Haydock from Wigan), so this is very interesting.  I already recognise some of the names. I am also researching the Haydock name generally in the British History online records.  My family roots are mostly in Lancashire and Ireland. Thanks for this.
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Wednesday 13 November 24 02:01 GMT (UK)
 Hi , A Haydock
so glad to hear from you, Your and my Families Start back with Orm De Haydock abt 1165
Lancashire England abt 1213, If you google HAYDOCK Genealogy Wikitree free,
Just fellow De Haydock/ Haddock then just Haydock in England, Orm married the Kings
daughter and had two sons, Hugh and William they lived on land they called Haydock ( Haydock park)
abt 1212 the Gson Hugh took on the name Standish as Sir Hugh Haydock/Standish with his son Robert
  Hope this helps you on your search keep in touch.

 Cheers George   

 
Title: Re: Peter Haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Thursday 14 November 24 01:14 GMT (UK)
 
  Hi, A Haydock.
  William Haydock Born abt 1833  D. 1891 Wife Alice Trickett (M) 1865 in Prescot.
  Father and Mother, off Richard Haydock Born 1864  D 1917.
  John W Haydock Born 1867 D. ? Ellen E Haydock Born 1870 ( Dootson )
  William Henry Born 1873 D. ?  Edward Haydock Born 1877 D. ?
  Peter Haydock Born 1879  D. ? Married Ann Cowburn  Haydock 1908 their Daughter Gertrude
  Born 1910/11 ? other children  no Information.. ( Abram Lancashire England )
  Is this your family ..
Cheers George E. H. Haydock..
Title: Re: haydock
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 December 24 09:29 GMT (UK)

Hi , A Haydock
so glad to hear from you...
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Hope this helps you on your search keep in touch.

If A Haydock makes at least one more post, you will be able to PM them and exchange information.


Title: Re: haydock
Post by: George E. H. Haydock on Thursday 05 December 24 12:39 GMT (UK)

 Hi A. George here from Bundaberg Queensland Aus. (OZ).can i ask what's Your first name?
 So nice to meet with you, A member of the Haydock Family I was Born in Belfast Ireland,
 Ancestors came from Lancashire England To Tyrone Ireland, Then my family Belfast, Now OZ.
 Yes keep in touch Cheers George ...