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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: pamd on Monday 07 September 09 16:22 BST (UK)

Title: land owner
Post by: pamd on Monday 07 September 09 16:22 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information on MAJOR E H BALL.

My husbands grandfather was a gamekeeper on one of his estates in 1911.

They were in Kiladysert Clare.

I would like to know more about the man he worked for.

Thank you Pam
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 07 September 09 16:49 BST (UK)
maybe the clare library could help ?

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/kildysert.htm
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Monday 07 September 09 19:09 BST (UK)
Thanks i'l give it a try
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Monday 07 September 09 19:54 BST (UK)
Had a look but no luck .

Anywhere else i can look please
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 18:44 BST (UK)
You could look up Major Ball in 1911 census to get an idea of where he was born, what size house he had, who was in the household, etc.
Also try a search engine like Google with his name and the townland/name of estare or house.
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:08 BST (UK)
Thanks i will give that a go to see if i come up with anything
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:09 BST (UK)
Forgot to post link to 1911 census in case you haven't seen it-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:27 BST (UK)
I think i might have found him with your help.

went into 1911 census and found a W E Ball age 26 single born Walshall 1885.A driver 4th battery RFA 4th Battery Royal Field Artillary in Rawelpindi India .

Any idea where Walsall is ?
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:31 BST (UK)
Sorry its WALSHALL
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:39 BST (UK)
I can't find W E Ball in 1911 Irish census. There are (I think) several places called Walsall in England but don't know of any in Ireland. It's unlikely that a Co. Clare landowner would be a driver in Army so I'm wondering if you've found the correct person.
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:47 BST (UK)
If he was a Major he could have lived in England and had property in Ireland ?

I did find a MajorW H Ball in a Gentlemens  club in London once but i can't remember where i found it .

But like you say in 1911 this one is not listed as a Major .
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:52 BST (UK)
If he was an Army officer with an estate in Ireland he could certainly lived/been stationed outside Ireland. However, occupation (driver) and initials (WE instead of EH) don't match profile of person you are looking for here. Where did the name of Major come from?
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:00 BST (UK)
I wonder could this be him - http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Ennis_Rural/Rosslevan/352708/

a William Hawkins Ball age 37, justice of the peace visiting with a household in Rosslevan near Ennis.


Shane
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:09 BST (UK)
Hi to both of you .

I found Major W H Ball on the Clare library of landowners he was said to be at Kildare ST Club.

Yes Shane  the one you found could be him i'm not disscounting anything. Him being a Major he could have gone on to be a JP.But would'nt he use the title of Major i think they usualy did as it makes you sound more important


Pam
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:11 BST (UK)
Don't know what's wrong with my head today i forgot to say it was W H on the 1911 census and not W E

Pam
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:15 BST (UK)
See that Major Ball has already been discussed on another forum and advice was given-
http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=531
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:21 BST (UK)
Thats where it was ! Sorry just did'nt remember .

But it still means i don't know anymore about him.And would like to .
And i notice he was Bell not Ball
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:30 BST (UK)
Thats where it was ! Sorry just did'nt remember .

But it still means i don't know anymore about him.And would like to .
And i notice he was Bell not Ball

If you read through that other thread you will see that the surname was BALL and it was one of your posts that said BELL.
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:36 BST (UK)
Sorry my mistake . I am at present looking through Wikapedia on Gentlemens clubs to see if i can find out any more.

I hope you did'nt take offence when you found the old thread i truly did forget and would never waste anyones time as i know you all work so hard to help.

I am truly gratefull and would still like to find more on the man.

Pam :-[
Title: Re: land owner
Post by: pamd on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:55 BST (UK)
I have just found on Clare county directories 1862 a peice that says he was a magistrate as Shane said .So will keep looking

Once again thank you for your help.

Pam