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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: student325 on Saturday 05 September 09 10:59 BST (UK)
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Just wondering if anyone else is researching this family.
I'm related to CTJ whose parents were from Baltonsborough and West Pennard in Somerset.
Kind regards
David Walsh, London
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Clement Theodore Jacobs 6 Oct 1862 Somerset England
m 1887 Scotland, Margaret Ann Gordon 5 Feb 1865 Scotland
Colonel Clement Jacobs was a Colonel in the Salvation Army
Living 1891 St John New Brunswick, 1901 Toronto Ontario; not found 1911
Issue:
1. Bella Gordon H Jacobs 10 Oct 1887 Dundee
I believe the 'H' stood for Haine - no marriage found
2. Clement John Jacobs 'John' 17 May 1889 Scotland perhaps in Edinburgh- 14 Jul 1921 Bala, Muskoka, Ontario. Buried Toronto
m Margaret Doonan
. 1 Bert Theodore Jacobs b/d 1917 Toronto age 3 months
3. Ethel Galt Jacobs 10 Jun 1890 St John New Brunswick
m Quebec, Alexander Macmillan
4. Edith MacKenzie Jacobs 'Edie' 20 Aug 1892 St John New Brunswick
m 1916 Ontario, Ernest Harry Green
5. Theodora Margaret Jacobs 'Dora' 9 Aug 1894 St John New Brunswick- 13 Nov 1920 Muskoka Township Ontario age 26 two months after Edith born
m Quebec, Wilfred Deron Creighton (born Ontario)
. 1 Edith Margaret Creighton b/d 1920 Ontario age 1 month (born Gravenhurst, died Toronto)
6. Hubert Oliver Jacobs 25 Mar 1895 York County, Ontario
7. Gordon Murray Jacobs 21 May 1900 York County, Ontario
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/0717/
Looks like Clement had a tie to Winnipeg as well.
Record of Clement T Jacob(53) Salvation Army crossing the border at Sarnia Nov 30, 1914 coming from Whitter California and going to Toronto. They had property in Toronto valued at $1200.00 and $200.00 cash. With him was Margaret(50) and children Ethel(24), Dora(20) and Gordon(14)
Debbie
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My name is Murray Clement Jacobs and Clement T. Jacobs was my grandfather, although I never knew him since he passed away prior to my birth on July 9, 1943. Gordon Murray Jacobs was my father.
In computer surfing today I came across the above two posts. Thank you!
By coincidence we live in Sarnia, Ontario (Bright`s Grove) and did not know that my grandfather crossed here in 1914.
I am brand new to this site but if I can be of any assistance in supplying information please let me know.
Thanks again for the information.
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Murray..welcome to Rootschat! There is a great Canadian contingent here..as it happens I am around the corner (in Sarnia). Enjoy!!
Kiddo ;D
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Thank you!
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Start with these:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
Soldiers of the first World War
You can see attestation papers, and you can find is someone has died fighting,
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/
Ontario Vital statistics project
You can see BMDs for Ontario from about 1865 – 1920’s
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/
Ontario Cemetery Finding aid
You can find names for all of Ontario, or search for Brockville
http://automatedgenealogy.com/
Automated Genealogy
1852, 1901, 1906, 1911
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bkinnon/cemeteries.htm#on
Cemetery & tombstones Ontario
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Muskoka Geneology can be found here..if you need something from Bala I might be able to help (In summer) ;-)
http://www.mpsgg.com/
K.
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Hi David,
I have ancestors in the Muskokas as well and found that the local histories as a great resource of information both pictorial and written. I got these from both the local pubic libraries (interlibary loan) and local merchant purchases. You don't mention specific location(s) in the Muskokas, but I will check what i have here and let you know if i find info that relates to your family.
Cheers, JDC
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July 19th 1906 he is returning on the Empress of Britain...
June 9th 1910 he was just returning from England on the Empress of Ireland...
http://members.shaw.ca/nfhslibrary/X167.pdf
Here he is and headed for Toronto http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-119.01-e.php?&sisn_id_nbr=5339 hit . and he's on page 2
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Thanks very much for these replies. I had an excellent detailed reply from the Salvation Army Archives in Toronto, and we now know a lot more about this family. It's always great discovering new branches in new places. Those Muskokas sound cold!
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Fabulous news that they got back to you!
Not sure if you have all these sites where he is mentioned, but just in case
http://www.londoncitadel.ca/ab-history.html
from the Otago Witness ( New Zealand newspaper)
"....The following statement has been forwarded for publication by Colonel Clement: T. Jacobs, chief secretary of the men's social work of the Salvation Army..."
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=OW19071030.2.51
He was certainly well thought of according to this publication http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bhj/
"COLONEL CLEMENT JACOBS (International Head- quarters). Colonel Jacobs is an able manager, and...
indispensable as the Chief Secretary of the City Colony under the Social Scheme. A great executive officer.
Spent fifteen years in Canada.
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This is great information. Thank you very much.
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I wonder if you are still looking for information on Bella Jacobs who was born in Dundee, Scotland in 1887? Bella died in 1921 in Canada. She married Alex Lyall in 1914 in London. Bella had two children, Dorothea and Gordon. Alex passed away in California in 1958. I am her granddaughter.
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I have heard from David Walsh. From some reason my ability to respond to personal messages is not working.
As David knew, Bella Jacobs (1887-1921) and Alex Lyall (1887-1958) had two children, Dorothea and Gordon.
Dorothea was born in London, July 1915 and passed away in California, January 2003. She married Henry Riedel in February 1945.
Gordon was born in London, May 1917 and passed away in North Carolina, December 1999. He married Dorothy Helmick in October 1944.
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Welcome to rootschat! One has to make a certain amount of posts on here before private messaging becomes available. It is said that 3 are necessary, but it was once 2...so am not sure now, which is correct...
Try now and see if it works, but first save the message in a word file before posting...
You can also exchange email addresses in there, as you mustn't post them live on the site...
J.J.
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Thank you!
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Very exciting to hear about the Lyalls. And thanks to J.J. and LyallJacobs for the posts. Hopefully it'll be possible to PM soon, and we can introduce you to the rest of the clan!
Best
Dave
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Hello everyone, I haven't been on Rootschat for ages and I've been sent a personal message from "Catherine" srko5342outlook.com regarding her Great Grandparents Elizabeth Duncan and William Lyall and the Henderson connection. The thread was JacobsLyall. I seem not to be able to post a private reply. Elizabeth Duncan aged 18 married my Great Great Grandfather James Henderson who was aged 44 in Dundee, Scotland in 1872. She was his fourth wife! If I'm on the correct thread I do have more information on the Hendersons.
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I think you might be able to respond to me now with personal messge but not sure. I would love more information about the Hendersons. Thanks for your quick response.
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Hello Catherine, I sent you a longish personal message re the Hendersons. Couldn't tell whether it got to you or not?