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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: algrass on Thursday 03 September 09 05:38 BST (UK)
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Hi,
If anyone knows or have John Bell Bennett (died 01/03/1926 Naracoorte SA) and Maria Brown died (13/04/1912) in their trees could they please post a reply as I am after both of their parents and date of births.
However any information you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou in advance.
Al
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Hi Al,
Do you have a general idea of the birth years, and perhaps birth places for either?
Cheers,
JM
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Hi Al,
The reason I ask is that online index shows in New Zealand 3 May 1883, there's a birth registered for a girl, Janet Bell BENNETT, her parents given names listed as Janet Bell and Alexander.
Of course, that doesn't indicate if that birth is for a family member for your John Bell Bennett, but .....
Here's the link to the NZ BDM online site
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/search/
Cheers,
JM
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From BISA - not always 100%accurate and there are errors and omissions. However it is a good resource.
BENNETT John Bell Occupation Farmer. Resided Mt Muihead, Mt Gambier, Naracoorte, Mayurra. Religion Roman Catholic.
Married 1855 Kapunda SA Maria/Mary nee BROWN b. c1838 YKS ENG died 14 April 1912 buried Naracoorte, SA. Arrived 1853.
Children Mary KAIN, James Bell [1862-], John Michael [1863-], Elizabeth [1865-1866], Thomas Bell [1867-], Catherine BARKER [1869-], Edward-[1871-1872], Ellen Elizabeth BASH [1873-1895], William Patrick [1875-], Roger Bell [1878-1895], Margaret Thesesa [1880-], and three others.
Unfortunately their marriage reg is in the period when fathers' names were not recorded.
Deaths
BENNETT Marie
14 Apr 1912
75 years Relative John Bell BENNETT Husband
Residence Hd of Robertson Death Place Hd of Robertson Rob 365/107
BENNETT John Bell
1 Apr 1926-04-01 94 years No relative noted
Residence Naracoorte Death Place Adelaide Ade H 485/438
Cheers
Cando
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The burial records show Maria not Marie
BENNETT, Maria
Cemetery Naracoorte
Section Old Section Grave222
Last Residence Naracoorte
Date of Burial 16 Apr 1912
Minister Officiating Rev Father James
Grave Depth 7 Ft Permit/Lease/Register 751
BENNETT, John Bell
Cemetery Naracoorte
Section Old Section Grave 223
Last Residence Naracoorte Date of burial 4 Mar 1926
Minister Officiating Rev Father McElligott
Grave Depth 7 Ft Permit/Lease/Register 1162
So you are looking in Yorkshire c1838 for the birth of Maria/Marie/Mary BROWN/E [marriage reg showed her surname BROWNE] and ? c1832 for John Bell BENNETT.
Have your searched on IGI on family search?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Cheers
Cando
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hi i am deanna my great great grandfather was John bell bennett great great grandmother maria brown
i have heaps of information if interrested
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Hi angel2947 :)
Welcome to rootschat :)
Algrass asked for information but didn't respond to the little that was posted and he/she has been logged in since that date. I decided not to search further when there was no response.
Cheers :)
Cando
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Thanks very much for your reply. If at any stage you want any more info, please dont hesitate to ask.
:)
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Hi :)
I am not a relative just a forum member helping with a request.
Cheers :)
Cando
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Hi angel2947
John Bell Bennett and Maria Brown are also my GG Grandparents. I have heaps of information about Maria but have been unable to find anything about JB and his ancestors. Would you be willing to share anything you have?
Cheers!
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Hi, I will share any and all information with you cuz. do you live in adelaide ? My name is Deanna and my g.grand mother was catherine terrasa bennett. Let me know if you want to meet. Regards Deanna.
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Hi Deanna.
No I don't live in Adelaide. I live in Mount Gambier.
I'm descended from John Michael (Bell) Bennett who married Elizabeth (McGregor).
I do get to Adelaide occasionally so maybe we can meet sometime. Its usually school holidays. I have lots of information about Maria and her ancestors as I found a cousin who was descended from one of her sisters and we shared the cost of researching her branch back in Yorkshire.
I don't have anything on JB Bennett though. All I know is that he came from Cork in Ireland and thats about it. I don't know when or how...
Cheers!
Penne
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Hi Penne, our g.g.grandfather john bell bennett,[and there are a couple more john bell bennett's] whils't on a visit to adelaide at easter 1926 died. he was 91. he came out from irland as a lad.and successfully lived in adelaide,kadina,kapunda and then became one of the pioneer settlers of the south east. it is said he was the owner of mayurra station, now famous for wagoo beef i will go to state records and try to confirm this. wnen he was 90 he went back to ileland and he was still very with it. he also owned moy hall estate. his eldest daughter mary kain lived in victoria,my g.g.mother became a barker and lived in narracoorte, william also lived in narracoorte,james in adelaide,edward in melbourne,patrick in naracoorte,[long story there] i'll tell you when we meet,ellen nash,millicent, and 5 others. what good breaders we catholics are.speaking of churches in mt. gambier, most of the children where christened at the main church there, can't remember the name of the church.g john &g.maria were married at st.john's church kapunda and a couple of their children were christened there. do you know of a christopher annear in mt. gambier? he is related to me. Regards Deanna
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Here is an obit to John Bell Bennett (not sure if it says he is 91 or 94)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/cite/2429525/46502761
He says he is 93 earlier in the year when he sues his son Patrick
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article55027519
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article73645608
regards,
Ros
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Hi again Deanna.
It is good to know when JB went back to Ireland the second time as I've been trying to find him on a boat list so I can work out where he went. I was at Moyhall on the weekend and was able to see the land he bought on the estate. I'm still to find out if Bellview still exists. That is where Maria died.
The catholic church in Mount Gambier is called St Josephs. Did you know that St Johns near Kapunda no longer exists. I went there for a visit but it had been cleared away.
On Maria's death certificate it said she had 14 children but I have only been able to find 12 (maybe 13). Do you have a list of all the children.
Is there a way we can email privately???
Cheers!
Penne
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Hi Penne,
Now that you have made 3 posts you can send personal messages to deanna by clicking on the little green scroll under her username
regards,
Ros
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Hi Deanna and Penne,
My Grandfather was Baden Bell Bennett, G.Grandfather Edmund Bell Bennett, G.G.Grandfather John Bell Bennett.
I would love to learn what information you've found out about Maria Brown and John Bell Bennett.
Have you found out the importance of the family name Bell?
Thanks for any help you can offer,
Susan
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The Advertiser 13 Apr 1926
OBITUARY.
Mr. John Bell Bennett, whose death, at the age of 94, occurred while on a visit to the city during Easter, was one of the pioneer settlers in the South-East.
He took up a farm there when the lands around Millicent were first drained. He came out from Ireland as a lad, and after living successively in Adelaide, Kapunda and Kadina he went to the South-East where he became a successful farmer and grazier, purchasing in later years land on the Moy Hall estate. A few years ago he paid a short visit to the old country. He was, until a year or so ago, in possession of all his faculties, and was, for his age, wonderfully active and observant. He left a family of five sons and two daughters, the eldest being Mrs. Kain of Victoria. Other members of the family are Mrs. C. T. Barker, of Narracoorte and Messrs. William (Narracoorte). James ( Adelaide), Edward (Melbourne.), and Patrick Bennett (Narracoorte). There are also 40 grandchildren, 17 great-grandchildren and 15 great-great-grandchildren.
Cando
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http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77530816
Border Watch 21 May 1892
Trustees of his insolvency estate instructions to sell stock, fodder, farming plant and interest in leasehold lands and perpetual leasehold land.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77074853
Border Watch 27 Sep 1893
MOUNT GAMBIER INSOLVENCY COURT.
Tuesday September 26.
Before Mr, J, P, Stow, S,M Commissioner
In re JOHN BELL BENNETT, of near Millicent, grazier,-Audit....................
Cando
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Just out of interest....mentioned here with in the SA Gov Gazette lists with one of my OH's distant rellies :)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77046233
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Thanks for a lot of great information!
Cheers,
Susan
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I have recently found a likely John Bennett in the Ireland Catholic Parish records:
Baptism date 12 Jun 1833
Residence Courtmacsherry
Parish Lislee
Diocese Cork and Ross
County Cork
Country Ireland
Father's first name(s) Wm
Father's last name Bennett
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Bell
http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634647#page/416/mode/1up
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Hi Penne, our g.g.grandfather john bell bennett,[and there are a couple more john bell bennett's] whils't on a visit to adelaide at easter 1926 died. he was 91
Another snip about John in 1926 while he was living and he states he is 94 years old.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article147114921
Cando