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Hi, this my first posting.
I trying to find any information on William Lee and his father John Lee and also on the McKeon family (Kilmore East).
I know that William Lee married Mary Jane Mckeon on 13 July 1852 in St John's Parish Church Dartry in the parish of Ematris. The church is located just inside the Monaghan border near the town of Cootehill in County Cavan.
William Lee was born about 1823
His father John was born about 1800 in Monaghan
Mary Jane McKeon's father was William McKeon
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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13th July 1852 William Lee son, John Lee, Monaghan married Mary Jane McKeon dau, William McKeon, Kilmore West both William and John had pensions so they may have been in Army, RIC etc...
10th May 1855 William McKeon, age 21 son, William McKeon, Kilmore married Margaret Jane Wright, age 20 dau, William Wright, Drumrooghill.......
17th Jan 1854 John Peel son, R. Peel, Cootehill, Drumgoon Parish, Co. Cavan married Anne Jane McKeon dau, William McKeon, Kilmore West
All these were in Ematris....Hope this helps!
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Hi hallmark,
Thank you very much for this information, it is much appreciated.
You mention that both John Lee & William McKeon had pensions how did you find this out?
Although I've been tracing my family tree for a few years now, I'm still very much a beginner !! I have been using the Mormon web-site and also Emerald Ancestors and Ancestry Ireland. I also use Genes Reunited. Can you suggest any other useful sites?
(William Lee and Mary Jane moved to Belfast around 1865)
Thanks again.
Dave
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Well it's what is written in the registers...I was looking for Wrights, came across that one and just noted afew other McKeon ones..
Then I was looking for Lee/Lemon connections as a line crosses my line....there are a few posts here on Lee etc...might be worth looking at, also a few on curiousfox...etc.
A lot of families criss cross each other so your McKeons could well be found by tracing other names. The Lee/Lemons were in Dartry area so someone with Lees might have records to share.....even your Belfast snippet might help others looking for them in Monaghan!! It could be a key......
I have the register for Drumgoon but have just moved house so will have to set up my IT station again but won't be for a week or two, don't have many Peel records...
Trawling through posts here might be fruitful, I hope to get a few more registers but not until later in the year...
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Thanks again hallmark.
I know there are a few families called Lee still living in the Dartry area. Before my Father died both he and myself attended the "Friends of Dartry" church service which is held in St. John's Parish Church every year. At the Tea and sandwiches gathering after the service I spoke to a couple of the Lee family members but unfortunately neither of them were able to shed any light about the family history. I appreciate any information on the Lee / McKeon Family. If you know of any useful web-sites Please let me know.
I have the names etc of the children of William John Lee and Mary Jane McKeon if anyone would like this information please let me know.
Thanks again.
Regards
Dave
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http://homepage.eircom.net/~leeea/EmanuellCavan.htm
http://homepage.eircom.net/~leeea/Registry%20of%20Deeds.htm
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Hello hallmark,
Again many thanks for the information, it is very much appreciated.
This will keep me busy for a while LOL
Best regards and greetings from Newtownards Co. Down.
Dave
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Well you did ask for Lees!!! ;D ;D
Regards from Dave in Leitrim!
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Cheers Dave, very true LOL :) :)
Thanks again for the information.
Regards
Dave
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13thJuly1852 - William Lee (pensioner) son of John Lee (pensioner) married Mary Jane McKeon dau of William McKeon of Kilmore West - witnesses were Jason Taylor & Robert McKeon - Rev John C. Wolfe (Vicar)
2ndDec1853 - Robert Lee son of James Lee of Kilmore West married Christina Moore dau of John Moore of Corranewy - witnesses were Jason Whitten & Wiliam Lee - Rev John C. Wolfe (Vicar)
also
3rdOct1854 - William Lee married Margaret Lockhart
We have a Team of Copiers currently engaged in copying the Church Records of County Monaghan - so far, we have copied Tydavnet, Kilmore, Tyholland, Errigal Trough, Errigal Shanco, Donagh, Clontibret (all C. of I. Anglican) PLUS Scotstown, Ballyalbany, First Monaghan, Glennan, Legnacreeve / Braddox, plus partly copied Ematris, Corlea, Derryvally & St. Patrick's Church, Monaghan Town - you will see my e-mail address on many other Monaghan-related postings at Ancestry.com, Rootsweb.com, Genealogy.com etc
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Hi Jack,
Many thanks for the information.
When all the info from Ematris is copied, will it be able to be viewed on line?
Unfortunately I'm now a wheelchair user and not able to get to Monaghan.
The church where William Lee and mary Jane McKeon were married on 13 July 1852 was Saint John's Parish Church at Dartry. The church is located just off the main road between Rockcorry and Cootehill. More or less opposite the Dawson monument.
Thanks again for the information Jack.
Best regards
Dave (Newtownards Co. Down)
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OK - unfortunately I cannot possibly do that - I get about 40 e-mails per day re Monaghan - I know the area as I'm originally from there & my wife's brother-in-law is Church Warden
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Hi again Jack,
No problem. Any chance it might appear as a pay per view? Do you know of any such site?
Regards
Dave
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Well, William Lee and Mary Jane moved to Belfast around 1865 and you have the marriage date so writing to the church for any births would be a simple look up.....I will be in that area but not for a while.
You have the names of their children so what other info are you after?
Dave, in sunny Leitrim (for a change!!). ;D
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Hi Dave in sunny Leitrim,
Thanks again for your reply. Yes I been in touch with the church and managed to get a list of Lee births. I can only find their first child but I know that there were three others born in Carolina but obviously christened in another church, before the family moved to Belfast in 1865 / 6.
I have absolutely no information on John Lee (Father of William Lee who married Mary Jane McKeon on 13 July 1852 at St Johns Parish Church at Dartry in the parish of Ematris. You informed me that he must have been in the Army or the R.I.C. but how can I find out ?
My problem is that although there is information available, unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to find it !!!! Things like "Poor Law Union" and "Griffiths Valuation"mean absolutely nothing to me because of my inexperience in Genealogy. My knowledge I'm afraid is limited to Emerald Ancestors, the 1911 Irish census and Ancestry Ireland (which only covers Counties Antrim and Down)
It was great to get replies to my question of where Calolina is, and Shanew147 even sent me a link to a map showing exactly where it is. Brilliant. When I studied the map I also found Kilmore West where the McKeon family lived. :) :)
Best regards
Dave in sunny Newtownards
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Well RIC records are kept at Kew apparently.....I haven't had to look at pensions etc so can't advise you there.
I Know where Carolina is, but Calolina...no!
Did you read the other posts on here? Lee etc....
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Hello again Dave,
Also thanks for the info on the RIC records.
I am slowly reading my way through the posts on this great site, but it's going to be sometime before this is completed.
Dohhh ??? yes, of course it should have been Carolina !!! Just a slip of the tongue, sorry keyboard.
Hope the sun is still shinning in Leitrim :)
Best regards.
Dave (in Newtownards)
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RIC Records are available in Belfast - I've used them
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Thanks Jack,
I'll follow that up.
Best regards
Dave
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Hello again Dave,
Also thanks for the info on the RIC records.
I am slowly reading my way through the posts on this great site, but it's going to be sometime before this is completed.
Dohhh ??? yes, of course it should have been Carolina !!! Just a slip of the tongue, sorry keyboard.
Hope the sun is still shinning in Leitrim :)
Best regards.
Dave (in Newtownards)
Sorry...was talking about Carolina in US of A....(wasn't being smart!)
Trawling through other posts could be educational.....It will pass 20 minutes or so!
Sun still shining, lake across road looks inviting.....(Gone fishing!) 8)
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Hi hallmark,
NP.
Twenty minutes or so LOL 8) 8) Perhaps 20 weeks or so !!!
Beautiful sun here in Newtownards, unfortunately I can't see any lakes from here although in fifteen minutes I can be in Bangor or Donaghadee :) (both seaside towns)
Hope you had a nice day fishing.
Regards
Dave
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Had grand day fishing yesterday...so nice I had a good morning fishing! That's the trouble with living opposite a lake, it looks lovely every morning ...and tempting!
Often stay in Bangor, nice town!
Can't really advise you about what pensions they would have had, as I've never needed to go down that line. All I know is that someone got their RIC info from Kew.
As they are also available in PRONI they should be handy enough to find....Good fishing! ;D
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Glad you had a good morning fishing. :)
I put a posting on the "Genealogy" section of the Belfast Forum about RIC records and received a reply from a chap called Deke in Canada.
Deke sent me the name and email address of someone who has (or had) some sort of RIC index. I sent her an email earlier this afternoon and I'm eagerly awaiting a reply.
I'll let you know the outcome. I'll try the PRONI if all else fails.
When I moved into this house 20 years ago, I could see Strangford Lough from the back bedroom, then a couple of years later they built some new houses behind us ..... no view of the Lough anymore. :(
Another sunny day here.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards
Dave
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Just reading through the thread...it was both of the Lees that had pensions!
now back to fishing!! ;D ;D [if only!] :-\
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Hi everyone sorry for the late reply but my Great Grandpa and Gran married in Ematris their names are James Lee and Mary Clarke in 1918 maybe a relation??? any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi everyone sorry for the late reply but my Great Grandpa and Gran married in Ematris their names are James Lee and Mary Clarke in 1918 maybe a relation??? any info would be greatly appreciated.
Hi,
There were and still are many Lee families living in the area. There were Lee's living in Kilmore East, Kilmore West, Newbliss, Dernamoyle and Doohat. My Lee family were originally from Monaghan. In 1852 William John Lee married a member of the McKeon family from Kilmore West. They lived in Carolina (near Newbliss) for about 13 years before moving to Belfast.
If your relatives were Church of Ireland, there is a good chance they went to the local parish church (Saint John's church at Killcrow)
I have attached a photo of my Father at St. John's Church
Dave
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Hi again I have just started tracing this side of my family and already have hit a dead end. The james lee and Mary Clarke I told you about moved to Scotland (dont know at what point) but my Gran was born in Scotland and both her parents died in Scotland. I dont know how to trace family in ireland so am having trouble already Aaaargh!!!
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Hi again I have just started tracing this side of my family and already have hit a dead end. The james lee and Mary Clarke I told you about moved to Scotland (dont know at what point) but my Gran was born in Scotland and both her parents died in Scotland. I dont know how to trace family in ireland so am having trouble already Aaaargh!!!
Tracing Irish roots is a pain. Most of the official births/deaths/marriage records for Ireland were destroyed in Dublin during the "troubles" in 1922 (i think) and many of the Irish census records before 1901 were also destroyed. I think the earliest complete census for Ireland is 1901. Thankfully most of the individual church records are still intact and copies of them are available to be viewed at the Public Records Office in Belfast. I did try to find your Great Grandfather (James Lee) on the Emerald Ancestors web-site but no luck.
Sorry I mentioned Ancestry.co.uk ...... but I'm not sure if they cover Scotland !!!! I'll have a look.
Dave
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Tracing Irish roots is a pain. Most of the official births/deaths/marriage records for Ireland were destroyed in Dublin during the "troubles" in 1922 (i think) ...
All the Official (Civil) Irish BMD records are intact and available at the GRONI and GRO, and cover births & deaths from 1864, all marriages from 1864 and non-Catholic marriages from 1845.
An index to these is available at the Familysearch Irish Civil Index (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable).
Shane
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Cheers Shane. I didn't know.
Dave
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Many Counties have projects where Church Records are being copied. I have been copying County Monaghan for several years and we have the Records of 16 Churches available on CD. It is important to ask for credentials of some so-called RESEARCHERS as it is not uncommon to be given wrong or misleading data.
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Hi Jack,
I have sent you a PM
Dave
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Many Counties have projects where Church Records are being copied. I have been copying County Monaghan for several years and we have the Records of 16 Churches available on CD. It is important to ask for credentials of some so-called RESEARCHERS as it is not uncommon to be given wrong or misleading data.
Hi Jack,
Many thanks for your valuable assistance and also for sending me the church records for Saint John's Church, these will make very interesting reading and a great source of information.
Thanks again for all your help.
David Lee
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The Church Records copied are Tydavnet, Tyholland, Clontibret, Errigal Trough, Errigal Shanco, Kilmore, Drumsnat, & (baptisms only 1800 - 1900) at St. Patrick's C. of I in Monaghan Town. The Presbyterian Records include - Ballyalbany, First Monaghan, Glennan, Legnacreeve / Braddox, Scotstown, Corlea (marriages only), Derryvally (marriages only) - the biggest Record is the LDS Data of County Monaghan - it is huge & 90% complete. The number of omitted entries to Church Records is amazing so I felt I had to copy the LDS Records. I have regular access to the Family History Library in Belfast because of the work I have been doing - we co-operate.
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Hi Jack,
Sounds like a mammoth task, but I'm sure all your work will be worth the effort.
Dave
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Hi thanks for your replys what info is needed to search the data you have?
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Unfortunately the rules of this Website do not allow me to list my e-mail address. However, if you look at some of the Monaghan names on Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com etc you will find my E-mail. We have a team of Copiers currently recording & copying all kinds of Monaghan Data to CD & we regularly send these CDs to those who request them. It saves the Old Church Record Books from further damage & I donate a number of these CDs to each Church involved. I don't think any other County is doing this on a similar scale. The 16 Churches are as previously listed on this Website
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OK - the Ematris Church Records list the following -
7thApril1846 - James Stewart son of Richard Stewart of Agherlish married Charlotte McKeon of Kilmore - witnessed by Archy McKeon & James Crossan - Rev John Morris officiated
Your reference to the marriage of 13thJuly1852 was conducted by Rev John C. Wolfe
17thJan1854 - John Peel (blacksmith) son of R. Peel of Cootehill married Anne Jane McKeon dau of William McKeon of Kilmore West - witnessed by Isaiah Corr & Robert McKeon - Rev Thomas Robinson
14thFeb1854 - Robert McKeon son of James McKeon of Kilmore West married Eliza McFarland dau of Augustus McFarland of Milltown - witnessed by William Clarke & William Corr - Rev John C. Wolfe
10thMay1855 - William McKeon (McKeown) (aged 21) son of William McKeon of Kilmore East married Margaret Jane Wright (aged 20) dau of William Wright of Drumrooghill
This data is extracted from the Church Records of Ematris Church, also known as "St. John's in the Wood" & actually on the Dartrey Estate. The nearby Demesne of Dartrey has recently had many of its ancient buildings refurbished & together with the huge Dawsion monument Pillar on the side of the road very near the Church. The Ematris Church Records are part of a larger project involving copying all of the Church Records of Monaghan's Churches - so far, 17 Church Records have been copied & are available on CD
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Hi the marriage Of James Lee and Mary Clarke was on the 28th Nov 1918 can i get any further information from Church records births etc?
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Sure - I only did a very brief search for you. I notice a lot of irrelevant data being posted.
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Hi
I've just seen the reference to the name Peel here. :)
I'm researching the Peel/Pile/s families of Co Cavan/Monaghan and I have a Henry Piles (later Peel) who married a Margaret Bows/Bowes. This Henry may be my 4x Great Grandfather.
Margaret was born about 13 September 1795 in Ireland and married before 1826. She died 1 April 1873 at Western Ave., Newburgh NY, USA, having emigrated with her family sometime between 1850 and 1855.
Margaret Peel's death certificate from Newburgh states her name, date of death (April 1, 1873), age at death (78y, 7m,19d), married state (widowed), birthplace (Ireland), Father's and mother's names and birthplaces (parents UNKNOWN (?), born Ireland), Place of death (Western Ave, Newburgh NY), cause of death (phthisis pulmonalis).
Unfortunately this is all I have as her parents are unknown, which I find a bit odd.
One of her sons, John (born 1827), emigrated to Australia and died 1 August 1900 at Mansfield, Victoria. He married Anne Jane McKeone 1854 in Ematris Church of Ireland Church, Co Monaghan. He was a blacksmith living in Cootehill, Dumgoon, County Cavan. The other five children of Henry and Margaret all seem to have emigrated to New York.
Has anyone else come acoross the name Peel/Pile/Piles in Co. Monaghan?
Many thanks!
Lorna
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As you say, the Peels were from Cootehill and attended Drumgoon. I have McKeon on my tree but no Peel/Pile/Pyle.
The are some Drumgoon records online but not sure of years etc. A post on Cavan board might be more rewarding.
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Hello Dave at hallmark
I have been trying to find out the current whereabouts and status of the Dartry (Ematris) parish registers and found your comments here. I had the opportunity to see them in 1995 but can't find a phone number for anyone in the parish to call. My interest is in the Bradford/Fagan families from 1862 and earlier.
Thank you
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Dear DJ Lee
I've just got your message, but I cant find any way of replying. I'm sorry, this is my first use of the forum.
ebt60
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Thanks! I think I've got there!
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Info on it's way :) :)
Dave
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Thank you. It's a relief to be able to interact with others interested in Ematris. The families I am interested in are Bradford/Taylor (Dartry/Glencorick), Fagan/Wadsworth (Milltown).
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Yes, was there yesterday, posted a photo of Registry book on another thread that I thought people might like to have but it was removed.
So probably the best way is to go via Private messages rather than posting details here. I took over 400 photos yesterday, there's Bradford among them
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Thank you - are the photos of register entries? Also, can anyone outline whether the Dartrey and Rockcorry congregations were separate, or whether it is likely to find overlaps? For example, is it likely a family would marry in one church but baptise their children in the other? Also, is there a reference site that describes the practical differences between an estate church (eg Dartrey) and a parish church (eg Rockcorry)?
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Photos of g/stones only except for book cover, the records don't photograph well due to faded ink etc. so I'll have to try and read my handwriting!
Rockcorry registers were taken by "someone" abroad but have 3 pages returned to me, trying to get the rest back.
Yes, definitely they marry in bride's church normally and attend husband's church which might be different. The Bradfords I have are not in Ematris but "nearby"....Will PM you later when I get a chance to go through what I got yesterday!
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Thank you. I suppose that confirms that the Ematris records are still at the church and have not been filmed?
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Yes, also at PRONI when they open again.
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PRONI microfilms of church records are available at Cregagh Library until PRONI re-opens at the new site. See www.proni.gov.uk
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Good day from Toronto
trying to find any info re Lee, McConkey, Keating in the Gran sha beg, Clones area of Monaghan, Ireland. Emigration in about 1919. Key christian Names include Thomas (Lee) Eben Henry, John, Selenia Keating (Lee). regards etc tj
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Good day from Toronto
trying to find any info re Lee, McConkey, Keating in the Gran sha beg, Clones area of Monaghan, Ireland. Emigration in about 1919. Key christian Names include Thomas (Lee) Eben Henry, John, Selenia Keating (Lee). regards etc tj
You'll find them here.. http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cm7/ McConkeys ..... http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cm8/ Lees
I don't know much about the McConkey Lees
You'll see some Hall McConkeys on census... my interest. Same McConkeys.
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thanks you for replying. what i do know is that This McConkey line came to Ireland from Argyllshire...wayway back... 1850s or so Elizabeth McConkey married Francis Lee... Their son Thomas had a farm, Lee's Farm, in Gransha Beg. I Believe the McConkey family still farms the area... Good luck hunting
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Yes, they are still knocking around.
I have a full CD sent to me about them and I'll be working on them shortly.... I have a lot of their graves already photographed so ready to go.
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i wonder if the name "Teasey" rings any geneological bells?
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Hi Listers, I am rather excited to have come across these postings about Francis LEE and Elizabeth McCONKEY. I am hopeful that I may be about to add some new data to my own family history programme. My Gt. Grandfather was John McConkey LEE, born about 1849 (depending on which census record one believes) in Co. Monaghan, Ireland. John's father was recorded as Francis and he (John, according to a family story) spent some time in the U.S.A. as a young man before returning to Ireland to marry my Gt. Grandmother Sarah HALL on 3rd Dec. 1889 in the Churchof Ireland, Killeevan, Co. Monaghan. I do not have official record that his mother was Elizabeth McConkey, but the fact that he has McConkey as his middle name encourages me to make contact with you people here. Witness at his marriage to Sarah, was Thomas LEE. John bought a place at Gortgranard, Annalore, Clones, when he returned from the U.S.A. and that is where my Grandmother was brought up. I would love to have data on both the LEE and McCONKEY families as I well remember my mother speak of the McCONKEY's when I was a child visiting in Monaghan. Elizabeth, Western Australia
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Hello Auz,
No doubt in my mind it's the same family. I am named after Thomas Lee. He was my mother's grandfather. Thomas had a number of brothers and sisters. he farmed in a small village named Grandshabeg near Clones. One of Thomas' many brothers was a John Lee, 1849 sounds right too. But i don't know the middle name. Thomas' Father was Francis Lee and his mother was Elizabeth Mckonkey. so i suppose a Mckonkey middle name is more than possible. There are still lot's of Mckonkeys in the area, big farming family over there still. Francis' father was also a John Lee. he married a woman named Anne, or Anna. I'm afraid that's all I know for sure now. The years are fuzzy. Thomas died 1903 or so. Buried in Stonebridge presp cemetery near Grandshabeg, try google maps view. can't see Grandshabeg but you can see the wee church from the roadside view at Stonebridge, east on the monaghan road from Clones. Thomas' two sons came to Canada during the rebellion in 1918. One daughter stayed behind. One of the sons , my grandfather, had children. lot's Lots of Lee boys from him around here in Canada now. I remember Grandfather well. His name was Albert Edward Lee, died 1960 here in Toronto. Francis, his grandfather in the 1860's. John, Francis' father ... unknown dates. The rumour, conjecture really, in the family is that these Lees are descended from a sort of nasty Cromwellian known in some histories as "Ensign William Lee". You may want to Google him up. Of some interest, I suppose, is that while I have fond memories of grandfather, he and his inlaws, among whom were, coincidentally, some Halls, were all virulently anti-Catholic. I wonder what he would have though of me marrying a Jewish woman. Writing about lineages etc is tough isn't it. Good luck hunting.
As your in Auz there is another Lee connected name that seems to only exist down there these days, ie Teasey or Teacy. regards from Toronto.
Tom Johnston
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Tom, Thank you very much for your prompt and very informative reply to my posting re the above families. I actually tried to write you at an email address which was given for you, but had my mail returned. If you like we might exchange some family data via my email address which is (*). Obviously we are talking about the same family. Will speak again soon. Elizabeth in Oz.
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Sorry Moderator and Hello again Thomas, I hope this constitutes the 3rd post so that we may then correspond privately. I found your Thomas in the 1901 census for Monaghan and the family (after his demise) in 1911 census. It is interesting to see your Grandfather as a baby in the 1901 census. Also I found in the IGI records a birth date for Anne Jane, Ellen and Charles LEE, born to Francis and Elizabeth. I have a story to tell you about a niece of Thomas Lee's and it bears out the truth of a comment you made in your last posting. Will be in touch again soon. Elizabeth
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hi Elizabeth, not sure if you're named after Elizabeth Mckonkey, I know my mother is, and her maiden name was Lee. it's odd and somewhat comforting to see many of the christian names in a family tree repeated. for example i have a first cousin named John Lee. If i get some time today or certainly over the next week, i'll dig out a tree supplied to me by one of the mckonkey cousins, albeit a 10th cousin or something like that. it's varied with seveal branches. Madden, or Madhill and Anderson are part of it.. but i'll have to see. Your John had a bunch of siblings, aside from g grandfather Thomas, and this is by memory only mind you, there was an Ann, Jane, William, Harold. the longest lived i believe was a kind of family head known as "Abel Henry Lee", aka "Eben Henry Lee", i don't always trust the spelling in the census. The house Thomas and his wife Selina lived in in Grandsha beg, was described to me by another cousin, Jim Lee who got it from his father, as second class, ie, not brick, but stone or wood, probably stone, and as having an earthen floor. pounded down earth until it resembled concrete in texture and density. as i said before it's is a small community of three or four homes, that while still existing, cannot bee seen on google street view. i've been to Ireland, but many years ago and on business so had no time to explore. i will retire next year so i may find myself poking around there sometime. i may even look up a phone book for the area. cold calls often work. regards tom
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Stonebridge Church....
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yup that's it. seen the church on street view but didn't see the names, great. believe they only do servivices there a couple of times a month or so. the road the camera is on leads, to the right through grandsha more, (Big grange) to Grandshabeg (little grange).
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Yes, once or twice a month. Also, in Newbliss there is a McConkey gravestone mentioning a Henry George interred in Canada son of George Henry McConkey.
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hello Hallmark, i see you're in Ireland, if you're from that part of Monaghan, have you ever come across the name Teasey there. regards tom
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Come across it as a Christian name... as a pet name for Teresa/Theresa/Therese.
My wife had an Aunt Teasey..(Theresa)
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Does anyone know if William Lee was related to James Lee or Robert Lee? Robert Lee and Christina Moore were my great-grandparents (m. 2ndDec1853). I see that William Lee is listed as witness to the wedding and I am wondering if he was Robert Lee's brother or perhaps James Lee's brother... ???
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i wonder if the name "Teasey" rings any geneological bells?
The name Teasey crops up when James Keating marries Selina Bradshaw and they have a son Thomas Teasey Keatingand he is brother to Selina Keating who goes on to marry Thomas Lee.
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Another avenue to try, thanks! I have never heard the name "Teasey" in any of my research. I will give that one a try also.
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Morgan135 I have researched the Keating line but I am just starting to piece together the Lee line. Are you related in any way?
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My great-great grandparents were Robert Lee and Christina (Moore) Lee. They were married in Ematris, Ireland on Dec 2, 1853. There was a witness at the wedding, William Lee, I do not know what his relationship was (brother/Uncle/grandfather?). Robert's father was James Lee, not sure on the mother, possibly Jane. Pretty sure the family resided in Kilmore West. Christina's parents were John Moore and Sarah Graham. Christina came to the U.S. in 1888, with her twin daughters, Elizabeth and Mima. What has always been a difficult obstacle for me is that Christina came to the U.S. as Christina Leonard (widow of Harry Leonard). I always wondered if Christina and Robert divorced, as Mimi was married in Worcester, Massachusetts and Robert Lee was present at her wedding. I am in the U.S. and have all the information after their Ireland departure. Let me know if you need any of that. If you have any other ideas or possibilities that may open so doors for me, I would be very interested. I've been doing this for close to 20 years and have not gotten any further than James Lee.
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Stonebridge Church....
Hello Halmark, Greeting from Halifax Nova Scotia. tljohnston "Thomas Johnston" was the one you were replying to here. He is my Moms Cousin. His mom Betty Lee and my Mom's Dad Robert E Lee were siblings.
Since your communications on the Lee, McConkey, Keating, Bradshaw , and Hall Families Thomas has passed.
I have reached out the to family to get as much of his work on the family Tree and history as I can.
But any information on Family Tree and history you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Here is the basics that I have gathered so far on the Lee Family staring with my mom and going back.
My Mom Is Barbra Jane LEE, Her father is Robert E LEE Born in Ontario Canada and married Anna Johnston (Lee). His Father and my My Gr Grandfather Is Albert E Lee From CO. Monaghan Grandshabeg/Clones area around 1901 who later came to Canada around 1918 with is Brother and his sister stayed behind. Alberts' Father was Thomas Lee, and mother was Selina Keating (Lee). Selinas' parents were James Keating, and Selina Bradshaw. Thomas' Father was Francis Lee and his mother was Elizabeth Mckonkey/McConkey (Lee). Francis' Father was John Lee, and Mother was Anne Or Anna. From what I understand, Francis had many kids besides Thomas, one being John McConkey LEE Who married Sarah HALL on 3rd Dec. 1889 in the Churchof Ireland, Killeevan, Co. Monaghan. As previously Mentioned Thomas Lee Died around 1903 Buried in Stonebridge presp cemetery near Grandshabeg as per your picture. Most of this information is based on what my mom has told me and what I gathered from this thread.
I am really looking for as much basic info I can get to complete a full Lee Family Tree, with branches including as much as I can get on the Other Families mentioned, along with any history and dates.
Or even info on who might have more of this history.
Looking this up, is definitely not the easiest thing to do.
Thank you
TJLee
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i wonder if the name "Teasey" rings any geneological bells?
The name Teasey crops up when James Keating marries Selina Bradshaw and they have a son Thomas Teasey Keatingand he is brother to Selina Keating who goes on to marry Thomas Lee.
Hi there Jaykim, Selina Keating (Lee) is my Gr Gr Gandmother. Do you have move information on the Bradshaw, Keating, or Lee Family, like names, dates, siblings, locations, that could help me research my family Tree and history?
Thank you very much
TJLee
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Hi Listers, I am rather excited to have come across these postings about Francis LEE and Elizabeth McCONKEY. I am hopeful that I may be about to add some new data to my own family history programme. My Gt. Grandfather was John McConkey LEE, born about 1849 (depending on which census record one believes) in Co. Monaghan, Ireland. John's father was recorded as Francis and he (John, according to a family story) spent some time in the U.S.A. as a young man before returning to Ireland to marry my Gt. Grandmother Sarah HALL on 3rd Dec. 1889 in the Churchof Ireland, Killeevan, Co. Monaghan. I do not have official record that his mother was Elizabeth McConkey, but the fact that he has McConkey as his middle name encourages me to make contact with you people here. Witness at his marriage to Sarah, was Thomas LEE. John bought a place at Gortgranard, Annalore, Clones, when he returned from the U.S.A. and that is where my Grandmother was brought up. I would love to have data on both the LEE and McCONKEY families as I well remember my mother speak of the McCONKEY's when I was a child visiting in Monaghan. Elizabeth, Western Australia
Hi Elizabeth,
You were speaking to my moms cousin Tom Johnston(LEE). I am curious to know more, and see if you guys were able to piece together more information regarding your Gt. Grandfather John McConkey Lee, and My my Gt, Gt, Grandfather Thomas Lee since these posts. They were Brothers correct?? Any family history on either side that you can share with me would be amazing!
Thank you
TJLee
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Wow...that is a blast from the past! McConkeys are buried Drum Presby
John Lee/Sarah Hall are in St Luke's Cem across road from St Laebhan's church
also there is a matching headstone
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-st-lukes-killeevan/target2.html
identical to this one attached ( my copyright) so should be OK for posting here! Not infringing any copyright
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2 McConkeys and George Hall plot Drum presby
(also my photo, no copyright infringement )
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George Hall Drum presby
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McConkey Drum Presby
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https://rip.ie/death-notice/george-mcconkey-newbliss-monaghan/320851
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Wow...that is a blast from the past! McConkeys are buried Drum Presby
John Lee/Sarah Hall are in St Luke's Cem across road from St Laebhan's church
also there is a matching headstone
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-st-lukes-killeevan/target2.html
identical to this one attached ( my copyright) so should be OK for posting here! Not infringing any copyright
Wow Halmark! This is amazing. Thank you so much. Do you have access to a copy of the Lee Family Tree? If not, Perhaps any one of the related families so I can start piecing it together?
Please feel free to DM me any info that you have access to at anytime.
Thanks again.
TJLee
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Morgan135 I have researched the Keating line but I am just starting to piece together the Lee line. Are you related in any way?
Jaykim, Do you have a copy of the Keating Family Tree? And How did you make out on the Lee side?
Thanks,
TJLee
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Wow Halmark! This is amazing. Thank you so much. Do you have access to a copy of the Lee Family Tree? If not, Perhaps any one of the related families so I can start piecing it together?
Please feel free to DM me any info that you have access to at anytime.
Thanks again.
TJLee
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I wouldn't have been doing Lee, sorry!
monaghan-drumswords -- Keating | In Loving Memory of | Robert Bradshaw Keating | Who died 8th June 1941 | And also his beloved wife | Rebecca | Who died 9th December 1942 | And their cherished daughter | Rebecca Violet | Who died 28th July 2006.
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-drumswords/target11.html
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-cahans/target17.html
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http://search.freefind.com/find.html?oq=bradshaw&id=13812782&pageid=r&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&scs=1&s=monaghanstones&query=keating&Find=Search&mode=ALL&search=all