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Title: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Tuesday 01 September 09 03:23 BST (UK)
Hi - Looking for the birth of Anne Hall about 1815 Clackmannan.
She married Duncan McKenzie 04 Jun 1839 Clacks and had the following children.
Mary 24 Jun 1839, John 25 Mar 1841, Eliza 18 Jul 1843.
Assume Duncan died (cannot find) as she then married
William Jeffrey 29 Jul 1848 Clackmannan and had the following children.
Isabell 1847 (assume born before the marriage) William 1849, Thomas 1855, Anne 1859..
Possibility there are gaps in the IGI for this area as cannot find births for Anne Hall, Duncan McKenzie or William Jeffrey, Have them in the 1861 census or at least the Jeffrey family but nothing after.

Anyone have any clues please  ;D


As always Patvp
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 01 September 09 15:40 BST (UK)
Hi Pat  :)

Like you cannot see anything for Ann Hall's birth. If all else fails, she looks to have lived to a fine age, a death shows in 1891 (birth year 1817) for an Ann Hall/Jeffrey in Clackmannan.

What were Elizabeth's Hall's parents as showing on her death cert?

Monica

PS: Not sure what you have managed to find so far on the censuses. Let me know and I can fill in any gaps  ;)
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Thursday 03 September 09 06:35 BST (UK)
Again thanks Monica - Have her death cert. GRO466/00 0073.

Widow of William Jeffrey.  Parents William Hall (shoemaker) deceased and Mary Hall m.s Duncan, deceased. Informant William McDonald son-in-law.
Cause acute bronchitis.

Date 06 Dec 1891.

You were right she did live to a ripe old age.

Thanks again Pat
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Thursday 03 September 09 07:10 BST (UK)
Hi all - Hall saga continues -

William Hall married Mary Duncan 04 Nov 1798.

Had the following children. Not in chronological order.

Francis 02 Sep 1799, Isobel bap 23 Mar 1812, James 05 Dec 1800, Agnes bap 25 Feb 1816, John bap 17Sep 1814, Jean bap 23 Sep 1809, Jean bap 15 May 1819, Mary 14 Feb 1807, Janet 10 Feb 1805, William 29 Dec 1802.

Dammit...Still no Anne  ???

Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Thursday 03 September 09 07:22 BST (UK)
Unless it was Agnes ??  ???

Pat - getting more confused   ;D
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 03 September 09 09:00 BST (UK)
Ann could well have been Agnes Pat  :)

Monica
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: Coline on Thursday 03 September 09 09:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Pat - No Elizabeth either. :-\

Coline.
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Thursday 03 September 09 09:54 BST (UK)
Maybe that was where John Alexander Risk got the Duncanson from ?? Could not find any ref anywhere else.

Am still trawling through IGI  for the Hall's think I am going "boss"eyed, there are just so many in Clacks, but seeing the size of Clackmannan itself they must have all been related AAaagh  :P will sort itself out one way or 'tother.
Then of course we have Tilli and Dollar and I won't mention Alloa  ;D

As always..Pat
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: Coline on Friday 04 September 09 01:52 BST (UK)
Found this on Ancestry 1891 Census.
Cheers, Coline.

Name: Anne Jeffrey
Age: 74 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 
Relationship: Head 
Gender: Female 
Where born: Clackn, Clacknshire 
Registration Number: 466 
Registration district: Clackmannan 
Civil parish: Clackmannan 
Town: Clackmannan 
County: Clackmannanshire 
Address: High Street 
ED: 2 
Household schedule number: 12 
Line: 8 
Roll: CSSCT1891_144 
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Jeffrey 74 
Ann Jeffrey 32 
Maggie Jeffrey 9 
 
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: Coline on Friday 04 September 09 01:56 BST (UK)
Is this Anne Hall senior in 1841?

Name: Ann Hall
Age: 57 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Gender: Female 
Where born: Clackmannanshire, Scotland
 
Civil parish: Clackmannan 
County: Clackmannanshire 
Address: Clackmannan (Town Of) 
Occupation: Grocer 
Parish Number: 466 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hall 57 
Frances Hall 15 
Robert Rankine 8 
Agnes Lambert 3 
 
Coline.
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: Coline on Friday 04 September 09 02:31 BST (UK)
Another one - Elizabeth Risk - Widow of William Risk 1861

Name: Elizabeth Rick
[Elizabeth Risk]
[John Risk] 
Age: 55 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 
Relationship: Head 
Gender: Female 
Where born: Clackmannan, Clackshire 
Registration Number: 465 
Registration district: Alloa 
Civil parish: Alloa 
Town: Alloa 
County: Clackmannanshire 
Address: 40 Castle Street 
Occupation: Ship Carpenter's Widow 
ED: 1 
Household schedule number: 67 
Line: 20 
Roll: CSSCT1861_62 
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rick 55 
John Rick 16 
 
All for now,
Coline.
 
 
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: bankie on Monday 28 December 09 14:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Pat

I was doing a bit of research for a Hall family member and came across your posts. I think I’m on the right track regards the Hall family. Sorry I never came across an Anne only Agnes. Hope some of this is of help and if I’ve got any thing wrong or missing information please let me know, its not the first time I’ve went in the wrong direction. :'(

Joe

Descendants of William Hall

Generation No. 1

1.  WILLIAM1 HALL was born Abt. 1764.  He married MARY DUNCAN 01 Nov 1798 in Clackmannan. 
   
Children of WILLIAM HALL and MARY DUNCAN are:
   i.   JANET2 HALL, b. 10 Feb 1805, Clackmannan.
   ii.   MARY HALL, b. 14 Feb 1807, Clackmannan.
   iii.   JEAN HALL, b. 23 Sep 1809, Clackmannan.
   iv.   ISOBEL HALL, b. 23 Mar 1812, Clackmannan.
2.   v.   JOHN HALL, b. 17 Sep 1814, Clackmannan.
   vi.   AGNES HALL, b. 25 Feb 1816, Clackmannan.
   vii.   JEAN HALL, b. 15 May 1819, Clackmannan.
   viii.   CHRISTINA HALL, b. 07 Oct 1822, Clackmannan.


Generation No. 2

2.  JOHN2 HALL (WILLIAM1) was born 17 Sep 1814 in Clackmannan.  He married CATHERINE PATERSON 16 Dec 1839 in Clackmannan. 
   
Children of JOHN HALL and CATHERINE PATERSON are:
   i.   GEORGE3 HALL, b. 19 Jun 1840, Clackmannan.
3.   ii.   JAMES HALL, b. 26 Sep 1842, Clackmannan.
   iii.   ISOBELLA HALL, b. 07 Feb 1846, Clackmannan.
   iv.   CATHERINE HALL, b. 15 Aug 1855, Clackmannan.
   v.   WILLIAM HALL, b. 04 Mar 1858, Clackmannan.
   vi.   CATHERINE HALL, b. 14 Mar 1860, Clackmannan.
   vii.   DUNCAN HALL, b. 09 Jun 1862, Clackmannan.


Generation No. 3

3.  JAMES3 HALL (JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 26 Sep 1842 in Clackmannan.  He married JANE FYFE 12 Jan 1863 in Clackmannan.  She was born Abt. 1840.
   
Children of JAMES HALL and JANE FYFE are:
   i.   FEMALE4 HALL, b. 18 May 1863, Clackmannan; d. Unknown, unknown.
4.   ii.   JOHN HALL, b. 16 Oct 1864, Clackmannan.
   iii.   HELEN HALL, b. 26 Feb 1868, Clackmannan.
   iv.   ANDREW FYFE HALL, b. 11 Aug 1870, Clackmannan.
   v.   JAMES HALL, b. 10 Sep 1872, Clackmannan.
   vi.   CATHERINE PATERSON HALL, b. 31 Oct 1874, Clackmannan.
 

Generation No. 4

4.  JOHN4 HALL (JAMES3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 16 Oct 1864 in Clackmannan.  He married HANNAH MCCALLUM 07 Feb 1890 in Church of Scotland Clackmannan, daughter of JOSEPH MCCALLUM and MAGGIE.  She was born Abt. 1867. JOHN HALL: Occupation: Engineer

   
Child of JOHN HALL and HANNAH MCCALLUM is:
5.   i.   ROBERT FERGUSON5 HALL, b. 08 Oct 1908, Polmount.


Generation No. 5

5.  ROBERT FERGUSON5 HALL (JOHN4, JAMES3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 08 Oct 1908 in Polmount.  He married MARY NELSON BUCHANAN 22 Jun 1928 in Bo'ness, daughter of WILLIAM BUCHANAN and JEAN BUCHANAN. 

   
Child of ROBERT HALL and MARY BUCHANAN is:
6.   i.   ROBERT FERGUSON6 HALL, b. Abt. 1935.
Title: Re: Anne Hall
Post by: patvp1 on Monday 28 December 09 21:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Joe - Have had the Hall family on the back burner for a while..looks as tho'I shall have to go back to it  :D so many files to go through.

At first glance.... other children of William Hall and Mary Duncan
Francis 1799, James 1800, William 1802, Anne 1815.
Can give you OPR numbers if you wish ??

I don't have a Christina 1822 ?? so will have to look into that one.

Will take a little time to work the others out, but if you have any queries let me know.  Can always send a PM with my e.mail address.

Regards Pat