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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: pooley on Monday 31 August 09 14:17 BST (UK)
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presently i am looking for ancestors in the ruabon and new bridge areas but seem to be getting lost !!!
i am looking for details on john price born 1837 in chirk who married mary williams born 1839 in ruabon living in newbridge post office in 1861 on i think.
mary had a sister anne (annie..born ruabon 1841) she was resident at the post office in ruabon untill 1901, mary seem to have passed away some time in the 1880's and john and thier children (arthur, edith and myfanwy/dorothy) moved in with her.
i have been to various locations (church's and ruthin records office) but to no avail.
can anyone here shed any light on this? maybe look up in some records?
many thanks in advance !!!
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The only John Price born in Chirk I am finding in both the 1841 and 1851 Census is one given as born in c 1834.He is given as the son of a Robert and Elizabeth Price.Where did John Price marry Mary Williams?
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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unfortunatly i dont know where they married !
i think john died in 1901-1903 in the 1891 census he is listed as "wieghbridge clerk in colliery"
in all cencus he is listing place of birth as chirk-denbighshire
his daughters, myfanwy dorothy price, wedding cert (20/12/1902) states "post office-newbridge" as his address and weighing machine clerk as his occupation.
is there anything else that you could need to help?
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It looks like my hunch about the John Price born in Chirk in c 1835 the son of Robert and Elizabeth Price in the 1841 and 1851 Census years is almost certainly correct.The 1861 Census shows John as still single and again born in Chirk in c 1835 and listed as a Colliery Clerk.He is shown as the son of Robert Price given as born in Chirk in c 1794.Robert is given as a Colliery Overlooker.His Wife Elizabeth is given as born in Chirk in c 1797.They are living at Pentre Issa which lies between Newbridge and Chirk.
RG9/1880/82/3.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi
I'll check my Chirk parish records, if it's any help :) but can't until Wednesday.
Gadget
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yep, you win !!!
i found john price in the 1861 census with both parents as you said. also looked up the 1841 census, the dates of birth are wildly out there.
the dates of the census later put his date of birth at 1837 ??? another red herring.
now i need to find real info on mary and anne williams born in chirk
many thanks so far....
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Hi
I'll check my Chirk parish records, if it's any help :) but can't until Wednesday.
Gadget
that would be a great help !!!!
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now i need to find real info on mary and anne williams born in chirk
So were they born Chirk or Ruabon ?
I have both sets of parish records :)
Gadget
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chirk from what i can tell.
just been trying to find thier parents, but in 1841 there are lots of mary williams born denbighshire (chirk doesnt work well) no census for 1851 when i assume they would both be living at home and i think i found a marrage for john and mary in 1855 at llandilofawr (near ruabon?) so in 1861 mary wont be living with her parents and there are plenty anne williams to choose from ::)
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I've got a busy and traumatic week ahead so ~
Baptism, Chirk 22 December 1833:
John Price, son of Robert Price (collier) and Elizabeth. Residence - Chirk (i.e. the village of Chirk rather than one of the townships)
also a possible marriage:
Chirk 17 May 1817 - Robert Price and Elizabeth Davies, both otp. Banns and wcop
Baptism, Chirk 3 May 1795 (b. 19 April) Robert Prise son of Robert Prise and Catherine
Nothing as yet for an Elizabeth Davies
Baptism, Chirk 30 April 1839:
Mary Williams daughter of Edward Williams (collier) and Mary. Residence - Black Park
Nothing so far for Ann(e) circa 1841
Will report back :)
Gadget
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gadget
any update?
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Not found anything else.
Have you got Annie on all the censuses?
Gadget
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yes, post misstress at ruabon post office from 1871 on with niece edith williams later as price.
just found her nephew arthur on the 1911 census his dad was john price and mother was mary williams. i think they went double barreled on there last name but do you have records of williams-price in ruabon etc
PRICE, ARTHUR WILLIAMS
PRICE, SARAH ELLEN WHITTINGTON SALOP
PRICE, ANNIE PRISCILLA WILLIAMS
PRICE, JOHN ARTHUR WILLIAMS
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but do you have records of williams-price in ruabon etc
Which ones?
I gave you what I had found last August and I'm not sure what else you need ???
I assume you have all the censuses.
Gadget