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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: elfield on Monday 31 August 09 03:21 BST (UK)
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William Prideaux (1813-1916) and wife Elizabeth Hall Webster (1844-1913) moved to Sydney from Wellington, NZ, sometime after 1883. Five of their grown children also moved.
Edward William (1864-1948) married a Margaret Smith (which I would confirm - IF I could get one the nsw bdm site).
Kate (1866-1944) married William Henry Cook in 1891, moved to England, then back to NZ where she died.
Jane Maria (1858-1969); George (1874-1933) and Matilda never married as far as I know.
I have some proof of residence - 22 Kent St, Belmore, Sydney.
Did Edward Willaim and Margaret have children? If so, are their descendants out there and would they like to make contact?
What happened to Matilda? I can find no record of her after 1928 when she resided in Belmore.
If anyone knows anything more about this family, I would be fascinated to learn what you may know.
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The NSW bdm search facility was not working yesterday and today the site is down due to technical difficulties. Contact has been made with the site and they have apologised for the problem.
Australian Electoral Rolls
NSW
1930, 1936
PRIDEAUX Edward William 22 Kent Street, Belmore Bootmaker
PRIDEAUX Margaret 22 Kent Stret, Belmore HD
plus in 1936.
PRIDEAUX Jane Maria 22 Kent Street, Belmore HD
NSW 1903 Electoral Roll
PRIDEAUX Elizabeth 223 Cleveland Street, Redfern Domestic duties
PRIDEAUX George R 223 Cleveland Street, Redfern Bootmaker
PRIDEAUX Jane Maria 223 Cleveland Street, Redfern Domestic duties
PRIDEAUX Matilda 223 Cleveland Street, Redfern Domestic duties
PRIDEAUX William 223 Cleveland Street, Redfern Domestic duties
Cando
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1930 Electoral roll in NSW
has Jane Maria Prideaux living at Emu Street, Canterbury as home duties
as well as George Prideaux a labourer,
Jenn
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Hi Elfield,
In the Sands Directories for 1915, there's 2 entries which may interest you.
William Prideaux at Kent St Belmore, and
E.W Prideaux at Kent St Belmore.
Cheers,
JM
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Bit More,
Sands Directories, 1896
William Prideaux 463 Elizabeth St (SYDNEY CBD)
William Prideaux Hansard St Waterloo
Cheers, JM
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Bit More
Sands 1903 (This will help me find them on the 1903 NSW Roll - hopefully)
W.H. Prideaux, 187 New South Head Road, Paddington.
Cheers,
JM
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Jm,
Cando has found them in reply no 1
kind thoughts Jenn
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Ta Jenn,
So the 1903 Sands W H Prideaux at Paddington is probably not connected with this family .
Cheers, JM
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Marriage
5919/1928
PALISE Anthony
PRIDEAUX Matilda De
District Canterbury
Death
1450/1948
PALISE Matilda
Father William Mother Elizabeth Hall
District Canterbury
There seems to be some confusion as to surnames etc
Perhaps check yourself... DE PALISE etc.
Australian Electoral Roll
1930 NSW
PALISE Anthony, Kaiwarra, Kent Street, Belmore Ironworker
PALISE Matilda Kaiwarra, Kent Street, Belmore HD
1936
PALISE Matilda De, 3 Kent Street, Belmore HD
Cheers
Cando
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Death
17186/1935
PALISE Anthony
Father Antonio Mother Alice
District Newtown
Cando
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Hi there,
William Prideaux (1813-1916) and wife Elizabeth Hall Webster (1844-1913) moved to Sydney from Wellington, NZ, sometime after 1883. Five of their grown children also moved. .....If anyone knows anything more about this family, I would be fascinated to learn what you may know.
If you have the transcripts for the 1913 or the 1916 deaths for Elizabeth or William, these would state how long they had been in the colony/state of NSW, and from that information it may be possible to find the passenger list to NSW from NZ.
Cheers, JM
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Thank you all so much.
The Australian connection was very recent with the discovery of Kate's Birthday Book, so I am still exploring Australian genealogy sites.
I knew they must have gone after 1883, because their eldest daughter, Elizabeth, married that year in Wellington, but have been unable to find them on passenger lists. Guess it's a case of trawling. (Well, I've done that before.)
William (death cert 1916) lived in NSW 29 years and NZ 30 years - he was a carpenter, born in Cornwall.
Elizabeth (death cert 1913) spent 26 years in Sydney and 36 years in NZ, born in Staffordshire. BTW, her maiden name was Elizabeth Hall Webster, which clears up the confusion over surnames mentioned by Cando.
I had seen the marriage with Matilda de Prideaux, but I never connected. On William's death cert she is referred to as Matilda D. Prideaux. All I had on Matilda was a reference in Kate's Birthday Book and on William's death certificate. I can't find her birth anywhere - must be NZ, but I couldn't find it on the Index.
I had been under the impression that Matilda never married - the family story goes that she was engaged, but went to NZ to visit sister, Kate. Took one look at the state of her marriage and swore off it for life! Maybe the story refers to Jane Maria - who never married. I have a photo of 'Aunty Tot', which I had been led to believe was Matilda - but maybe it was Jane Maria.
With the information you have all supplied, I may be able to find out what happened to them.
NSW bdm was up and running late this avo - I found Edward William married Margaret Smith in 1904.
BTW, my interest in this? William and Elizabeth are my great great grandparents. Their daughter, Kate, my great grandmother.
Although, it's interesting how history repeats - 100 years later, I followed them - and have no intention of going back :)
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Bit More,
On the Ryerson Index,
PRIDEAUX Edward William Death notice 03APR1948 Death 84 late of Belmore
published in the Sydney Morning Herald of 05APR1948
and at NSW BDM
11604/1948 Edward William Prideaux's parents listed as William and Elizabeth. (Registered in Canterbury District of Sydney).
Cheers, JM
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At Rookwood Cemetery
Anglican, Section 8, Row 16, Graves 1857, 1858
Edward W Prideaux died 3 Apr 1948 84y
George Prideaux died 11 Jul 1933 58y (my bro)
Matilda De Palise died 11 Jan 1948 75y
Jane Maria Prideaux died 17 Aug 1959 90y (sister of above)
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I would like to thank you all for your help and guidance.
Will send for death certs of Edward and Matilda (the only two who married) in the hopes they had children.
Regards
elfield
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You can use a transcription agent in NSW which costs about $18 as opposed to $28 from NSW rwgistery. Also a lot quicker you can have the copy emailed to you as well. I use Laurie, allways quick and helpfull , that is my own preference and I am sure the other two are just as good.
Transcription Agents in NSW.
Using a transcription agent is a lot cheaper and usually a good deal quicker, they also do transcripts from the State records Office .
Transcription Agents
The Registry has accredited Transcription Agents who are able to provide genealogists with full transcriptions, partial transcriptions or verification of certain fields of a birth, death or marriage record.
Transcription Agents are particularly useful when you do not need full-certified copies of a birth, death or marriage certificate but just want the information in order to be able to continue your research.
Fees vary according to the request. Refer to NSW Birth, Death & Marriage Certificate Transcription Agents:
Joy Murrin
Tel: 61 (2) 9585 1187
Fax: 61 (2) 9585 1486
Email: joy[---at---]joymurrin.com.au
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Website: http://www.transcriptions.com.au/
Laurie Turtle
Tel: 61 (2) 4573 1559
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Email: lturtle[---at---]iprimus.com.au
Website: http://home.iprimus.com.au/lturtle/
Jenn
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Hello Cazay
Having just "tuned in" to the Prideaux name, I note you have noted
Matilda de Palise. Would this be Matilda de Prideaux widow of Anthony Palise who is buried in Rookwood - he died abt 1932/35 ?
Pamela-anne.
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Here is death notice for Edward William
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18066656
regards,
Ros
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Hello All
Re Matilda Prideaux - as Cando has pointed out, she was married to Anthony Palise. She was considerably older than Anthony. I have a photo of his headstone st Rookwood. His father Antonio/Antinino, was my mother's step father.
From what I could gather, I don't think my grandmother (Antonio's 2nd wife) knew about Anthony.
Matilda's death regis no is 1450/19448, parents William and Elizabeth.
Elfield - can I ask if you would email me a copy of Matilda/Anthony's marriage certificate.
Pamela-anne
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Hi folks
Anyone interested in the Prideaux family.
William Prideaux who married Elizabeth Hall Webster, they had on my tree 10 children.
Some were born in Landulph, Cornwall and some in NZ.
William is son of Pascoe Prideaux and Honor Barrett.
I have gone back to Paganus de Prideaux c 1045 and Isabella.
A daughter of William's is Matilda De Prideaux.
There is a few differences in what I have read on the posts to what I have.
Would like to share any thing to get it right.
My connection is Prideaux married Savery married Towgood
Craig