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Title: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: elsagh on Thursday 27 August 09 09:02 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information on the Mc Caughern family from Bally mena Co Antrim......William John Mc Caughern joined the N Z Rifles and sadly died in W W 1.     anything would be helpful   many thanks.  e
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 27 August 09 10:55 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat. Details of William John McCaughern are listed here-
www.freewebs.com/snake43/virtualmemorialm.htm (including photo and picture of family headstone). Parents given as Andrew and Hannah McCaughern.
Andrew McCaughern married Hannah Carson and had Maria (1879), Hannah (c1885), Andrew (c1889) and possibly others. In 1911 Hannah, a widow, and children Hannah and Andrew are living at Church Tamlaght.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: elsagh on Friday 28 August 09 01:34 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the speedy reply and the information, I am now looking for information on a Catherine Mc Caughern who married  a Robert Mc caw, they had 10 children and eventually left Ireland for Scotland in the late 1800..thank you once again   E.
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 28 August 09 07:56 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Robert McCaw married Catherine McCahghan (sic) in Rasharkin Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney on 14 Aug 1885. I have no information on the children.

Regards
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Thursday 10 June 10 16:33 BST (UK)
I am also looking for Catherine McCaughern. I notice that on several trees she is the daughter of John McCaughern and Mary Ann boyd, but on others, the daughter of Patrick McCaughern and Teresa Mooney. irst was born c 1862 2nd about 1874
Thanks
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 10 June 10 16:49 BST (UK)
Not sure  what family trees you mean (do beware of online trees as they can be full of errors, often copied from each other) but you are talking about 2 different McCaughern families.

John McCaughern (a common surname in the Rasharkin area) and Mary Ann Boyd had (according extracted births in IGI- www.familysearch.org):
1. Jane born 24 Mar.1870 Co.Antrim
2. Elizabeth bron 27 July 1872 Dirraw, Co.Antrim (Dirraw is the registration sub-district)
3. James born 11 Jan.1875 Lisnagaver, Co.Antrim
4. Anne Lena born 26 May 1878 Sisnagaver, Co.Antrim (this should be the townland of Lisnagaver)
5. Mary McCaughern born 7 Jan.,1881 Lisnagaver, Co.Antrim
These McCaugherns were Protestant- Church of Ireland or Presbyterian.

Patrick McCaughern and Teresa Mooney (possibly Catholic from their names) had:
1. Teresa born 17 Nov.1864 Portglenone, Co.Antrim (page 111 in civil register)
2. James born 23 Feb.1867 Portglenone, Co.Antrim (page 165 in civil register)
3. Patrick born 4 Mar.1869 Co.Antrim
4. Daniel born 25 Mar.1871 Co.Antrim
5. Catherine born 15 Apr.1874 Co.Antrim
6. Margaret born 9 Nov.1876 Ballymena, Co.Antrim (Ballymena is the registration district).
7. John born 9 Oct.1879 Portglenone, Co.Antrim
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Thursday 10 June 10 18:17 BST (UK)
Thanks I will check I have all the information, but what I am trying to establish is which Catherine married Rbt McCaw. However, I agree about Presbyterian/RC so can see I can ind that ino on the Scottish census.
If you have any more info on any McCaughern/ McCahon etc, I would be very interested, as I am trying to trace then ALL. My Grandmother was a McCaughern (Matilda Jane McClaw) and her grandmother and grandfather were both McCaughrens
Thanks
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 10 June 10 18:30 BST (UK)
My Grandmother was a McCaughern (Matilda Jane McClaw) and her grandmother and grandfather were both McCaughrens

McCaughern from which townland?
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Friday 11 June 10 16:26 BST (UK)
ggGrandfather John -Ballydonnelly, but also in Griffiths in school house Church Tamlaght. He was married to Jane McAuley
gggrandmother Margaret daughter of John McCaughern and Catherine McKeever at Moneyleck
Married into Alex and Sarah Rudd family at Lisnagavor!!
Looks like all the families around Rasharkin are relatives. Lots of in-breeding!
Thanks
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: scarletmill on Saturday 12 June 10 18:58 BST (UK)
My gg granny was Mary McCaughern born approx 1865 - she married Denis McMullan in St Marys RC 12 September 1886.
Seeing as this side of the family was all Catholic I presumed that she was another daughter of Patrick and Teresa's but I didn't see her on Aghadowey's post for the 2 families. LDS has been a wonderful resource in my research but surely it can't be relied on as completely accurate - this is the only family that I can safely put her with : timeline wise, name wise ( names are still common in family) and location Rasharkin/Portglenone.

Any advice

June
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Sunday 13 June 10 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi

I am afraid I cannot find this Mary either. I think there many more McCaughern/ McCahons than are in the LDS.

I have 2 families in Portglenone area having children about the right time, but I have not yet established what religion they were.

1 John McCaughern and Ellen Irvine
2 Archibald McCaughern and Jane Crawford

 I have a Jane McCaughren marrying a James McMullen about 1867, they are in the Portglenone area. They have a John born 1868 and Sarah 1869. I think they then move to Belfast.

However, in the 1911 census there are 2 sisters, Bridget and Catherine and their neice Sarah McMullan. Could this be a clue? They are R.C

Are these the parents of the Denis McMullen who emigrates to Canada 1920?

Can you give my information on children and where they went to?

Regards
Alex



Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: scarletmill on Tuesday 15 June 10 20:45 BST (UK)
Hi Alex

Hade a wee shoofty at my McCaughern / McMullan line but it seems that they weren't too fart travelled having never left the area, between Portglenone and Rasharkin. My Denis McMullan and Mary McCaughern had 3 children : Denis, Mary and James who married Catherine McKillop where I come from. They were definitely Catholic. Sorry I can't be of any other help.

June
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 13 February 11 09:15 GMT (UK)
New reply posted here has been split to start a new topic-
Hi,
   Robert McCaw married Catherine McCahghan (sic) in Rasharkin Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney on 14 Aug 1885. I have no information on the children.

Regards

I came across this message reply- I am connected to the Robert McCaw you mentioned and am trying to find out more about his brother Hugh and their parents Hugh and Letitia  nee Adams.
Have you any more info? I know they were in Glasgow by 1901 but cannot find them there before this.
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Monday 14 February 11 07:39 GMT (UK)
I do not have much on this family, as my interest is with McCaughern, although my grandmother's middle name was McCaw or McClaw.

Hugh McCaw sr was born in Magheraboy, about 1840. His parents were James McCaw (c1796) and Mary ? The family are in he Rasharkin 1851 census in Moneyleck.

Hugh jr married Agnes Patterson in Glasgow 12 Jul 1900. They lived in Maryhill and in the 1900 census there are 2 children Leticia Adams and Sarah Margaret. I notice I have a death date for Hugh in 1911, although that probably came from another tree and the only Hugh McCaw dying in Lanarkshire in scotlandspeople is 1914. Hope the 1911 census will give you more info
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Monday 14 February 11 07:49 GMT (UK)
Re Hugh McCaw sr, I see I have the wrong parents. Father was William on Marriage.
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Monday 14 February 11 22:39 GMT (UK)
Hi there thanks for that, I know what happened to Hugh once he was in Glasgow- he married three times had twins Letitia and Sarah with his first wife Agnes Paterson ( Sarah was my grandmother), then had James with his second wife Agnes Mills, then married Jean Grant and went to Canada with her and James and died not long after he arrived in 1911 before he was able to send for the girls.

I also know about Robert and think I have a photo of him - he drowned in  a canal in Glasgow.

Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: elsagh on Wednesday 16 February 11 07:05 GMT (UK)
My Grand mother was Letitia McDowall nee Mc Caw, she had 9 brothers and no sisters, they were from Rasharkin, and came to Glasgow to live.She married William Mc Dowall and had 6 children, my mother Elizabeth being one of them. Her brothers names were, Daniel, William, Thomas, Hugh, Robert, Alex, Joe and Jim.....I am looking for any information on her Mother Catherine Mc Caugheran. A very interesting family....Regards Elsa
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Wednesday 16 February 11 23:41 GMT (UK)
Robert Mccaw your great grandfather- letitia's father was the brother of my great grandfather Hugh Mccaw who died in Canada in 1911. So we must be 4th cousins I think?
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Thursday 17 February 11 10:47 GMT (UK)
Catherine McCaughern married Robert McCaw 14 Aug 1885. I assume they were presbyterians. If this is so her parents were John McCaughern and Mary Ann Boyd, married 23 July 1861, Rasharkin.  Catherine was born 3 Aug 1862 at Lisnagavor, Rasharkin and died in Glasgow. She had 6 brothers and 6 sisters.
John McCaugherns parents were John McCaughern and Elizabeth Buick
Could someone confirm that the famly were Protestant?
Thanks for the other information
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Thursday 17 February 11 20:46 GMT (UK)
This is Robert McCaw - he was a bridge  keeper and lived at Dobbies Loan canal house. He drowned in the canal on 6th August 1939. My dad remembers going cycling with him on his tandem.

Can anyone tell me when he was born - I think it was about 1863?
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Thursday 17 February 11 21:45 GMT (UK)
I HAVE HIM BORN 1861 RASHARKIN
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Thursday 17 February 11 22:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks that was quick! - any evidence of when he came to glasgow?
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Friday 18 February 11 07:32 GMT (UK)
All I know is sometime between his marriage in 1885 and 1901.Can't find him in 1891 census
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Friday 14 October 11 18:58 BST (UK)
Hi
I have a Mary McCaughern born about 1865 parents Rose Mooney and James McCaughern, Ballydonnelly, Rasharkin. I think it is she who marries Dennis McMullan, St Mary's, Rasharkin 12 Sep 1886
Alex
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: scarletmill on Friday 14 October 11 20:39 BST (UK)
Hi Alex,

That sounds very similar - what relation are you to them ???
If this is correct we are indeed related - let me know.

Regards

June
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Friday 14 October 11 21:45 BST (UK)
Are your Taylor's linked to the McCaugherns?
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: alexmills on Friday 14 October 11 21:59 BST (UK)
I have Taylors related to McCaugherns, although still trying to tie these McCaugherns with my tree
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Friday 14 October 11 22:14 BST (UK)
Hi Alex- you and I are already talking- linked with Hugh Mccaw and family - Agnes Mills etc,
Sue Stevens ( nee taylor)
I wondered how Scarletmill was linked.
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: scarletmill on Saturday 15 October 11 21:56 BST (UK)
I do have Taylors linked but not directly. The McCaughern's are on my dads paternal side and the Taylor's are in the same time frame but on his maternal side i.e George Taylor married Peggy (Margaret) McLeister. Hopefully this clears up any confusion.

June
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: garrat on Thursday 17 November 11 23:50 GMT (UK)
robert mccaw was my great grandfather and my records indicate that he was born in rasharkin county antrim ireland in 1861.

He married catherine mccaughran on the 14 august 1885 in rasharkin and they had 10 children, Hugh (b 1887), William(b 1888) thomas (b 1890 - d 1916), james (b1892 - d1968), letitia (b1894), Robert (b 1896), daniel (b 1898-  d 1966), alexander (b 1900 - d 1918), joseph bonar (b 1901- d 1976), harold (b 1903).

roberts parents were hugh mccaw (B abt 1835 in rasharkin) and letitia adams (b abt 1839 in county antrim). they married in 1859 and had 7 children.robert (1861-1939), alexander (1864-1884), james (1865), mary serah (1868), jane 91869 - 1946), hugh (1872).

If you are able to ammend any of this or have further information you would like to share please do.
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 18 November 11 07:42 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Hugh and Letitia married in Finvoy Presbyterian Church on 11 Feb 1859. Their fathers were William McCaw and Robert Adams.

Regards
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: mad jock on Sunday 05 February 12 16:32 GMT (UK)
Hi not sure if this is any help.

In my ancestors I have a Matilda (also seen as Malinda) McCaughern (b about 1850. d 1910) married Robert Moore McMaster (b1849) Married 1st may 1874. Trinity presbyterian Church, Ballymoney, Antrim.

My relation to the McMasters is via Rainey marriage in 1848. The Raineys married the McCaldridges (who later became Alexanders) from Finvoy and surrounding areas, Ballymoney

I am afraid that is the only info at this time I have on mcCaughern.

Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: elsagh on Sunday 29 April 12 06:59 BST (UK)
I have just read the information from Garret, and would just like to add my Great Grandfather was also Robert Mc Caw.  his one and only daughter Letitia was my beloved Granny Mc Dowall.   So Hi there ,  Elsa
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: sss65 on Sunday 29 April 12 12:20 BST (UK)
Hi Elsa- its Sue- Hugh's great granddaughter and another of your distant cousins!
Sue
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: thock on Thursday 03 May 12 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi Elsa and Sue I´m another distant cousin, Robert and Catherines son Joe was my grandfather.
Title: Re: family roots- McCaughern
Post by: elsagh on Friday 04 May 12 02:01 BST (UK)
Hello to you....Im sure we are the tip of the iceberg!!!!!  but very interesting..   regards to you and Hi again to Sue.. :)