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Title: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Joof on Wednesday 26 August 09 22:13 BST (UK)
I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to look up my great (x4) grandfather on the passenger lists to New York leaving England at some point between 1851 and 1859 please.
His name was William Coult (born 1801) and he took his son William James (born 1830) with him and I suspect he took his second wife Mary with him and possibly daughter Anna (b.1838) too.
Father & son ended up in Salt Lake City and the son appears to have married two women on the same day in 1859 so I suspect they were Mormons.
Any help would be greatly appreciated both on the passenger lists and whether they are likely to have become Mormons in rural Essex or converted when they arrived.
Yours in hopeful anticipation, Jo
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: merjones on Thursday 27 August 09 02:42 BST (UK)
April 25, 1859

Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival: New York

Ship: Henry Clay

William Coult age 59, Engineer, born Scotland
Mrs. Coult age 51 or 57 born Scotland
Anna Coult age 19, born Scotland

Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: merjones on Thursday 27 August 09 02:52 BST (UK)
Salt Lake City Cemetery Records

Name: William Coult
Birth Date: Aug 10, 1801
Birth Place: Yonel Surrey England
Death Date: 18 Mar 1883
Death Place: Salt Lake City, Utah
Plot:   11265 C-5-1-W-1/2
Burial Date: 18 Mar 1883

Name: Mary Coult
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 2 Dec 1882
Death Place: Salt Lake City, Utah
Plot:   11084 C-5-1
Burial Date: 2 Dec 1882



Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 27 August 09 09:08 BST (UK)
Coult's buried in Salt Lake Cemetery:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=&GSmn=&GSln=coult&GSby=&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=4&GSst=47&GSob=c
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Joof on Thursday 27 August 09 09:24 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Merjones for looking both up. The Cemetery records fit with what I know but I'm a little concerned about the passenger lists missing the son William James and stating their birthplace as Scotland as they were definitly born in England. Is it possible this bit was just wrong on the records and the son followed them out or could there have been two families travelling around the same time ?

Any ideas on how I would find out what their lives were like in America and when they became Mormons ?

Sorry...so many questions !!!   Yours gratefully, Jo
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 27 August 09 09:49 BST (UK)
Jo, one of my ancestor's was born in Essex.  He and his wife left Essex in 1857 (settling in Canada).  His cousin, or other somewhat close relative left Dunmow, Essex around the same time and settled in Utah.  From what I gather, this family was apparently Mormon while still in England.  (My ancestor wasn't Mormon.)

However, when helping several people in the past, we've found records of their ancestors as they were heading to Utah.  I've done a quick search and so far do not find the same for your William Coult.  This makes me wonder if he was a Mormon before leaving England.
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 27 August 09 09:53 BST (UK)
Three people in North America submitted records for William on FamilySearch:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp

They may know something about him.

[The link doesn't work.  I typed William Coult, born England.]
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 27 August 09 10:41 BST (UK)
If your William James was born in 1837, it appears that he died in 1893.  I was hoping to find him on the 1900 census, which may have given his date of immigration.

In case you haven't found William (b1801) and Mary on the 1880 census, they are listed as "Cowlt."
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 27 August 09 11:32 BST (UK)
William James Coult's daughter's headstone:
http://utahgravestones.org/view.php?id=10394

I don't think I've included this...some people mention the Coult family:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
Search for Coult, William, born 1801
The link isn't working right now, but it was earlier, so you might have to wait a bit to actually see their information.
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: merjones on Thursday 27 August 09 22:47 BST (UK)
I found this excerpt from someone else's research on their family and it included a William Coult:

Arrival: 5 Oct 1854 - wagons- however - Rasmus Julius walked - no room in wagons
Comments: John Johnson Dunn Joshua Holland William Coult/Utah Raphael Cheadle/1852 Oregon trail to Oregon

It seems to suggest that he traveled by wagon train to Utah.

Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Joof on Friday 28 August 09 17:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Merjones for this fascinating extra bit. Perhaps this relates to the son William James Coult or the previous passenger list info couldn't have been my William. i.e. passenger list didn't have him coming into America until 1859 but the trail to Utah was in 1854. Sorry to be a pain but was there only one William Coult coming into America between 1851-9 ?

Thanks again.  Jo
Title: Re: Look Up Request - New York Passenger lists 1851-1859
Post by: Lisa in California on Friday 28 August 09 18:28 BST (UK)
Using the exact spelling, there was only one William Coult arriving between those dates (the one merjones found).

There's a chance his name was not spelled correctly, or that he sailed to Canada.