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Title: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 11:10 BST (UK)
Does any one out there possess any info on a  Richard Smith b.1888 in Whitehaven. Son of Isaac and Isabella Smith of Pica,Cumbria.,?    Richard lived at 54,Roper Street, Whitehaven  in 1911 ,along with  Isaac  and Isabella  Smith who are  my ggrandparents.  Richard was a hairdresser by trade and also worked in a funeral parlour ,which I think was in Whitehaven.  Richard moved to Distington and continued his hairdressing business. I am trying to establish if he had a  barbers shop in Whitehaven and if my grandfather James Comrie worked with him at any stage.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 26 August 09 11:52 BST (UK)
Kelly's Directory 1921
SMITH Richard, Hair Dresser, 51 Roper St
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 12:54 BST (UK)
Many thanks for that Geoff-E.  Best wishes.  picamarra
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Luzzu on Wednesday 26 August 09 13:35 BST (UK)
Hi:-

1901 Census:-

39 Chapel Street, Whitehaven

Isaac Smith Head M 43  coal hewer born Frizington, Cumberland
Ellen Smith Wife M 46  dress maker own account/at home born Newcastle, Northumberland 
Elizabeth Douglas Smith Dau S 21  milliner own account/at home born Arleedon, Cumberland
William Lamby Smith Son S 17  coal miner (shiftman) born Distington, Cumberland
Richard Smith Son S 13 hairdressers apprentice born Distington, Cumberland
Herbert Wrangham Boarder S 30 coal hewer born Lamplugh, Cumberand 
 
Class: RG13; Piece: 4891; Folio: 110; Page: 22.

Also there is a marriage reference on the FreeBMD as follows:-

Sep 1877
Issac Smith/Ellen Douglas
Whitehaven 10b 736

Luzzu
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 14:20 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much for your time .This is very helpful. Regards.      picamarra.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Scottiedog on Wednesday 26 August 09 17:45 BST (UK)
Given your alias (picamarra) can I take it you're local to Whitehaven?

If not, I would be happy to provide photos of Roper St.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 26 August 09 17:57 BST (UK)
Or just take a walk around "virtual Whitehaven" http://www.virtualwhitehaven.net/ropkinse.html
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 18:34 BST (UK)
I am  indeed  an ex Cumbrian born and brought up in Distington.. Most of my lot came originally from Pica or its environs. !!!   Iwould love to see some photos of Whitehaven   Can you send them via this site or do you need my E. Mail?   Regards.   picamarra.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 26 August 09 19:01 BST (UK)
Don't forget the webcam - it looks better when the sun's out!

http://thebeacon-whitehaven.co.uk/webcam/beaconcam.htm
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 19:33 BST (UK)
Yes. very nice indeed.    I was in fact in Whitehaven 6 weeks ago and spent a couple of hours in the Archive offices. All very helpful. We had a good stroll around, which bought back many happy memories.   I bet there are not too many out there who can remember going to the swimming baths on a Saturday morning,   It was a two hour session, 8am to 10am for sixpence ,( an old tanner) and then in the evening, the highlight of the social week, a bus ride to the  Ritz cinema, Workington (entrance  for 2 shilling.) and a bag of chips in Distington to finish off.!!!    Oh those where the days!! Thanks again for all your time.      Regards         .  picamarra.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 26 August 09 20:13 BST (UK)
My mam was born in Lowca, then lived in Whitehaven before moving away.  We used to go up for holidays to see my Grandma and my dad used to take me round the docks - we used to spend hours at the bottom of Howgill brake watching the trucks come and go.  Also watching them fill the ships with coal.

I remember the docks area in shades of black and grey - today, it's all in colour!

Then there was the Golden Sands!

(http://services.arnit.net/images_to_go/users4/Golden1515130826.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Wednesday 26 August 09 20:49 BST (UK)
Ah yes indeed the "Golden Sands", but not as black as the beach at Harrington!!!  I spent many a happy hour swimming off Seascales and St Bees beaches, but  have always managed  to escape from glowing  in the dark. I went to Workington Grammar fom 1960  to 1968. All the best.   picamarra.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Scottiedog on Wednesday 26 August 09 21:14 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm a scouser really, but live in St. Bees

Anyway .... 51 Roper St
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: Scottiedog on Wednesday 26 August 09 21:16 BST (UK)
... and number 54
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Thursday 27 August 09 07:39 BST (UK)
Many thanks indeed for the photos.  I wonder if my great uncle was a tatooist at number 54, I doubt it!!!!  On our recent visit o Whitehaven, we tried to locate 39,Chapel Street where my great grandfather lived in the 1901 census , It has unfortunately gone.  the pub "the Puncheon ", remains intact  though and no doubt my relation would often have  had a pint or six  in here after a hard day "downt pit."   Talking of pubs, my cousin Geoff ran the " Queens Head "in St,Bees for many years and still lives in the village.     Best wishes.  picamarra.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: lakeland on Thursday 26 January 12 19:40 GMT (UK)
  I remember Richard Smith very well,he did have a hairdressers shop at 51 Roper Street,I lived there, do your records go back further than your Great Grandparents, they are mine too .  lakeland
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Saturday 28 January 12 12:36 GMT (UK)
Morning Lakeland.   I was very interested to see your post . According to what records I hold, My great Uncle Richard( my fathers Uncle,who was always called "Uncle Dick ")  lived at 39,Chaple Street ,Whitehaven, before moving to 51,Roper Street and was stilll there ,, as afar as I know .working as a barber in 1939.   Dick had the following siblings:Isabella Smith  (my Grandmother) b1882 -died1950  .Elizabeth Douglas Smithb? -   William Lambert Smith b1883 and Joseph Smith b1885.  His mother was Ellenor Douglas b.1850 and father Isaac  Smith 1859-1918  --- Isaac was born in Arlecden and also resided in Asby.Isaacs father was Richard Smith 1826-1873 and mother Jane Lamomby 1828-1892 They had 14 children!!!His father was Thomas Smith 1804-1889.Mother was Isabella 1806-1884.His father was Thomas Smith who married Mary Singleton b.1783.They had 9 kids (no further details). I would love to know if Uncle Dick married and what is your connection with all this.I presume that Dick must have died in the 50s??   Did you stay in Roper street recently and how did you know the Smith family? We may well be related!!Hope to here from you. Best wishes.  Picamara.
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: lakeland on Saturday 28 January 12 14:40 GMT (UK)
 hello, I am one of the Smith family,my grandfather was William lambert. My father was Richard Smith,I am the eldest daughter.I have fond memories of visiting your Grandmother and family at Distington. Uncle Dick never married .He died around 1947.  The picture shown previously was not the hairdresser,s shop,it was next door which was No 51 then. The first building (Mason,s) was a pub the Indian King. My father carried on the hairdressing shop.Regards Lakeland
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Post by: jubed on Sunday 29 January 12 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Lakeland I'm another relation of yours.(Picamarra is my brother) We would both like to keep in touch .If you answer this post, we 'll be able to send private messages to each other, you need at least 3 posts to do this.You just click on the green scroll under the users name at the side and follow the instructions
Best wishes Julie
Title: Re: Richard Smith barber in Whitehaven.
Post by: picamarra on Monday 30 January 12 12:02 GMT (UK)
Hello again. It would indeed be good to exchange memories of long gone days in Distington and West Cumbria. I think that we are 2nd cousins!!   My grandmother Isabella being your grandfathers Williams sister..Would you mind mentioning your married name?.   This could be done on my E Mail perhaps.   Regards for now.      picamarra.