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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: jimmijam on Tuesday 25 August 09 20:26 BST (UK)
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Hi there,
I'm looking to get in touch with any descendants of James Poole Behenna born London, England in 1822, also known as James Behenna Poole. He was married to Ellen Moulton and was Head Master of Salisbury Public School from 1867 to 1878. He died in Port Adelaide and Ellen, his widow, died in 1903.
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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I am not sure if you have lots of information or are looking for more information or only living descendants :-\ :-\
Possible birth and baptism from IGI Extracted record
BEHENNA James
Birth 29 Nov 1821
Baptism 9 Jan 1822 St James, Westminster, London ENG
Father Isaac BEHENNA
Mother Mary Ann BREAY
A spelling variation with Ellen's surname on the marriage reg :-\
Marriages Dec 1843
BEHENNA James Poole Bloomsbury 1/ 82
MOLTON Ellen Elizabeth Bloomsbury1/82
1851 Census
Living at 14 Oval Street, St Mary's Lambeth HO107/1873
BEHENNA James Head Married 29 years Railway Clerk b. St James Middlesex
BEHENNA Ellen Wife Married 26 years b. St James Middlesex
BEHENNA Mary Ann Dau 8 years Scholar b. St Anns Middlesex
BEHENNA Ellen Elizabeth 7 years Scholar b. St Anns Middlesex
MOULTON Mary M.I.L Wid 58 years Dependant on her son b. St Martins Middlesex
MOULTON Augustus B.I.L. Wid 28 years Carver & Gilder b. Lambeth Surrey
HIETT Hannah Serv 17 years Domestic servant b. Henley Oxfordshire
Their arrival in Victoria in August 1852 on the Mary Harrison Port B Fiche 005 Page 008 and 007 for James.
POOLE James 30 years
POOLE Ellen 27 years
POOLE Ellen 9 years
POOLE Mary Ann 8 years
I guess you have found this
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/teachers/Teachers.asp?TeacherID=1410
So there are the following marriages and it is descendants from these marriages you are seeking :)
EVERETT Charles Ellis Status not known 22 years Father Charles EVERETT
POOLE Mary Ann 22 Status not known Father James POOLE
8 Nov 1864-11-08
Place Christian Chapel Mitcham Ade 60/45
and
HILL Nathaniel 23 years Status single Father John Victor HILL
POOLE Ellen E 24 years Status single Father James POOLE
13 Jul 1873
At the residence of Mr Broadfoot Thebarton Yat 96/162
A couple of deaths
POOLE James
25 Nov 1890 68 years Status Not known Relative Not recorded
Residence Adelaide Died at Port Adelaide PtA 190/86
POOLE Ellen Elizabeth
4 Aug 1903 78 years Status Widow Relative James Behenna POOL [Deceased husband]
Residence Parkside Death Place Parkside Ade 296/116
Hopefully a descendant will find your request.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Thanks for replying! I had his mother and father and yesterday I found him on a transcribed court case, he was a Policeman in London in 1842 and the record was on the Old Bailey on line which was really exciting. I had some info on his emigration and name change. As his father and brother were in the debtors court (London Gazette), I suspect that this was the reason for the name change. Its just amazing what you can find on line now!
I didn't know just when he emigrated so thanks for that. A relative of mine had pulled some information on descendants but I certainly had none of the other information about his children or such detailed information on his career. My research prior to this has been mainly in the UK and mainly in Scotland. I really appreciate your post.
Thanks again for this information. I hope that some descendant might read this and get in touch, that would be lovely.
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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Thank you for the interesting snippets about the family. I did wonder about the reason for the name change. I have found the London Gazette invaluable for my own family research. I will type up what I can find on the descendants. You never know someone may be searching for an ancestor and bring up this post/s.
Births
EVERETT James Charles
8 Nov 1865
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary Ann POOLE
At Adelaide Ade 33/433
EVERETT Amy Ellen
23 Nov 1869
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary Ann POOLE
At Adelaide Ade 84/142
EVERETT Ernest Ellis
26 Dec 1870
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary Ann POOLE
At Adelaide Ade 90/181
EVERETT Lilian Maud
8 July 1873
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary POOLE
At Adelaide Ade 123/237
EVERETT Kate Vehemia
15 Nov 1875
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary POOLE
At Mitcham Ade 158/341
EVERETT Frank Preston
67 May 1878
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary POOLE
At Mitcham Ade 201/192
EVERETT Myra Molton
3 Dec 1880
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary Ann POOLE
At Mitcham Ade 251/356
EVERETT Harold Mayo
16 Jun 1883
Father Charles Ellis EVERETT Mother Mary Ann POOLE
At Adelaide Ade 306/240
HILL Claude John
10 Aug 1875-08-10
Father Nathaniel HILL Mother Ellen Eliza POOLE
At Salisbury Ade 154/469
HILL Victor James
14 Nov 1878
Father Nathaniel HILL Mother Ellen Eliza POOLE
At Virginia PtG 194/249
HILL Alice Mary
20 Jun 1880
Father Nathaniel HILL Mother Ellen Eliza POOLE
At Virginia PtG 242/467
HILL Ellen Emma
1 Aug 1884
Father Nathaniel HILL Mother Ellen Eliza POOLE
At Virginia PtG 333/285
Cando
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Marriages
BARREAU Charles Alfred 25 years Status Single Father Alfred Alexander BARREAU
HILL Alice Mary 23 Status Single Father Nathaniel HILL
4 Nov 1903
At St Michael Church Mitcham Ade 217/424
COX Henry 23 years Single Father James COX
HILL Ellen Emma 20 years Single Father Nathaniel HILL
16 Jan 1905
At St Michael Church Mitcham Ade 222/174
EVERETT James Charles 26 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
HOUNSLOW Bessie Annie 20 years Single Father Richard HOUNSLOW
11 May 1892
At Draper Memorial Church Adelaide Ade 171/654
EVERETT Ernest Ellis 28 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
WILLS Maggie May 22 years Single Father Benjamin WILLS
12 July 1898-07-12
At St Luke Church Adelaide Ade 196/119
EVERETT Harold Mayo 29 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
ANGELL Mildred Victoria 24 years Single Father Alfred ANGELL
9 Dec 1913
At St John Church Adelaide Ade 247/751
HANNAFORD Henry 24 years Single Father John HANNAFORD
EVERETT Lilian Maud 22 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
28 Apr 1896
At St Mary Magdalene Church Adelaide Ade 187/544
BEASLEY Alfred Stephen 24 years Single Father John Samuel BEASLEY
EVERETT Kate Behenna 22 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
14 Sep 1898
At St John Church Adelaide Ade 196/961
LILLYWHITE Reginald Guy 24 years Single Father Edward Thomas LILLYWHITE
EVERETT Myra Molton 24 years Single Father Charles Ellis EVERETT
25 Oct 1905
At St Mary Magdalene Church Adelaide Ade 225/408
Cando
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Deaths
EVERETT Amy Ellen
13 Jan 1870
6 weeks Child Relative Charles Ellis EVERETT [Father]
Residence Adelaide Death Place Adelaide Ade 29/249
EVERETT Charles Ellis
2 Aug 1915-08-02
73 years Status Married Relative not recorded
Residence Norwood Death Place Norwood Nor 394/402
EVERETT Mary Ann
17 Mar 1925 82 years Status Widow Relative Charles Ellis EVERETT [Deceased Husband]
Residence East Adelaide Death Place East Adelaide Nor H 477/109
EVERETT Frank Preston
6 Jul 1916 38 years Single No relative noted
Residence Norwood Death Place Norwood Nor 402/541
EVERETT Harold Mayo
18 Jul 1953 66 years Status Married No relative noted
Residence Rose Park Death Place Rose Park Nor799/3844
EVERETT James Charles
13 Nov 1931 66 years Status Married No relative noted
Residence Forestville Death Place Forestville Ade 533/356
BEASLEY Kate Behenna
24 Apr 1935 59 years Married Relative Alfred Stephen BEASLEY
Residence Rose Park Death Place Rose Park Nor H 568/1486
BARREAU Alice Mary
4 Jun 1970 89 years Status Widow Relative Charles Alfred BARREAU [Deceased Husband]
Residence Rosewater Death Place Rosewater PtA 89A/4105
Cando
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It is disappointing that nearly all of those alive and eligible to vote in 1909 did not enrol.
South Australian Electoral Roll 1909
EVERETT Bessie Annie Nicholls Street, Forestville House duties
EVERETT James Charles Nicholls Street, Forestville Station Master
BEASLEY Alfred Stephen 4 Fisher Street, Norwood Salesman
BEASLEY Kate Behenna 4 Fisher Street, Norwood House duties
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Wow, I am amazed at this work of yours, thanks ever so much! And thats a great idea, I really hope someone googles these names! I never thought about listing them for that reason. Well here's my Behenna line, supplied by the late, great Walt Whyte:
Claude Behenna married 1872 to Jessie Jackson, his parents:
Richard Breay Behenna married 1842 to Amelia Harbrone, his and James's Parents:
Isaac Head Behenna married 1818 to Mary Breay, his parents:
Richard Behenna married 1785 to Elizabeth Head, his parents:
Richard Behenna married 1762 to Mary Collacut, his parents:
Richard Behenna married 1714 to Ann Venton, her parents:
Robert Venton married to Ann Holland
Mary Breay's parents were John Breay and Mary Poole, hence James's middle name/surname!
Richard Breay Behenna was advertising for shares in Bristol, Manchester, London and Dublin in 1853 for the The Cape of Good Hope and Natal Coal and General Mining Company. I'll attach the advert I found for Friday 7th July 1854 . Whether he was a conman or a victim of circumstance, I don't know but I found a record the following year, 19th May 1855 where he appears before the Court as an insolvent debtor with 7 former addresses. Richard was held for a time in Horsemonger Lane Gaol and was still listed as Bankrupt by 1863, but I really don't know how the legal system works on this. He's with his family for the 1861 census, but is missing from the 1851 and 1871 census, though with a name that is easily misspelt, I could have missed it, or was he trying to hide. He died apparently in 1874 aged 55.
Curious that his brother emigrates during this time and changes his name, don't you think?
And sadly, I found a record for James and Richard's mother Mary Breay for 1881 aged 83, Chandelier Maker's Widow, Pauper inmate, Camberwell Workhouse, Havil Street, London, England.
Thank you once again Cando for all your hard work. Its just amazing to flesh out their pasts.
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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Hi there,
Here's the adverts,
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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You certainly have an interesting family. Yes I agree about the timing of the name change for John.
I think the marriage registration spelling of Malton for Ellen Elizabeth may be the correct spelling. Did you notice the name being used as a given name for a couple of the descendants?
I am also wondering about the qualifications required in 1852 to teach in South Australia. Perhaps John had replied to an advertisement for teachers. I have an ancestor who emigrated in 1852 to teach at Scots Church School in Melbourne.
Will have a search tomorrow to see what else I can find on this family. I feel many of them may have left South Australia as their names do not appear in the bdm records post marriage.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando,
I'm working this branch back at the moment and it is the most eventful one I've found records for so far. It is an interesting period for this family, as Isaac, the father, had a lamp shop in Jermyn Street, St. James's Palace, London. However there was a fire in this street, reported on February 9th 1840 and his shop was damaged and stock uninsured. By 1842, Isaac was a debtor. I'm surmising that this event really scuppered the family.
Any other help that you could provide would be just great. I've just emailed a relative, another distant cousin descended from Claud Behenna. He's come across a record saying that a photo was held of James Poole. Based in the UK and this being my first foray into Australia, I'm wondering, if the last school where he was teaching would have a copy, as my cousin isn't sure where the original info came from...
I'm really delighted with this extra information that you've provided, as before this weekend, these ancestors were all just words!
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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HI
I did do some googling and found your posts. the name I was googling was Barreau. I see you have some connection with the Barreaus in South Australia, via Hills and Everetts.
My family is connected directly to the Barreaus. There has been a lot of work done on their family and another family connected, the Hamiltons. You can contact me and I can refer you to others. I know someone is connected to the Hills and I recognise the Everett name.
Eirene
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Hello. My husband is a descendant of Mary Anne Poole and Charles Ellis Everett. Mary Ann was the daughter of James Poole/Behenna. My email address is (*)
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Hi BAJC,
Many apologies for not replying, its only been a year! All I can say is that everyso often I go back over different branches of my family tree, and now its time for the Behenna's.
If you read this, please post 2 replies, and then I can send you my email address, as you'll have 3 posts by then, which means we can exchange information via personal messages.
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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Thanks for your reply.
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Thanks again!
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Hi Jimmijam
I found this post yesterday
I am related to Claude Behenna and his wife Jessie Jackson and live near where they were married in Scotland.
Best wishes VaVa
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Jimmijam seems to be unreachable.
Last appeared on this site over 10 years ago
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=65098
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Thank you for replying. I see that but thought I would try. The late great Walt Whyte referred to by Jimmijam ,was my uncle and I do remember him saying he had found ancestors in Australia and I’m sure visited. Hope to try to piece together that part of our family too
Best wishes VaVa