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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: barney 2500 on Tuesday 25 August 09 07:46 BST (UK)
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hi everybody
i've just start doing my new daughter in laws family and already hit a puzzle
i have found birth for her grandfather and his brother and sisters in wigan under the mothers maiden name of armstrong
her mother spoke to her father and he says that his mothers name was jane ann rutter and she was married to thomas henry richardson in bishop auckland durham.
i have found a marriage between a thomas henry richardson and jane a.r. armstrong in APR/MAU/JUN 1920 VOL 10A Page 604 for him and page 303 for her. but no marriage between a rutter and a richardson
i was wondering if anybody who was in the durham area could find out if the R was rutter
i'm waiting to hear back from daughter in laws mother about certificates of her fathers
so i was just wondering mean time if anybody could help
thankyou andy
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Hi
I notice there was a Jane Ann R Armstrong born 1898 in Auckland 10a 237 Q1. If we could chase that back we may find that Rutter was actually a surname of an ancestor of hers.
Evie
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thats a possiblity i will look in to it
thankyou for that information
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Hi Andy
Will you PM me your daughter in laws father's name please and approx year of birth.
Evie
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hi evie
the parents to my daughter in are not the question its her geat grandfather,however her grandfather name is as follows along with his brother and sisters
they were all born in the wigan area .
kathleen richardson born 1921
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Hi Andy
Ok I will see what I can find. If any of the names you posted are still alive would you delete them as we are not allowed to post names of those still alive. I have taken note of them. Thanks.
Evie
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This looks like that Jane Evie found the birth reg for
1901
Gordon Lane, Ramshaw
William Armstrong Head 59 B Staindrop
Ann Armstrong Wife 58 B Auckland
Mary J Armstrong Dau 23 B Etherley
Elizabeth Armstrong Dau 18 B Etherley
Jane Ann Rutter GDau 3 B Evenwood
James Snell Boarder 18 B Cambridge
Margaret Armstrong Dau 20 B Etherley
Jane Armstong & Thomas Richardson's marriage took place at St Paul, Evenwood.
You can order a copy direct from Bishop Auckland Register Office here
http://nd.durham.gov.uk/gro/newgro.nsf/search?open&C0905088250825082009$
Cheers
Jay
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Excellent find Jay :)
Certainly answers the question what the R stood for.
Evie
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hi
looking through the marriages from 1892 to 1901 i found one possible marriage of an Eliza Armstrong to an Elijah Rutter in mar 1898 vol10a pg303 there were two other people on that page as well so I'm wondering if this is correct
also i was wondering if Elijah and Eliza had children and how to find out
yours Andy
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1901 census RG13 4654 28 48
Evenwood, Bower Hill
Elijah Rutter M 25 Coal Miner Hewer Durham Evenwood
Eliza W 26 do do
Elizabeth Dau 1 do do
Phoebe Ellen Dau 1 month do do
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On the 1911 census (you need to pay to see the image) if you do a full person search in Durham with Elijah as the other person in the Rutter household it brings up 12 people. Including Jane Ann age 13.
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thankyou very much madpants
i'm grateful for your time and effort
yours andy
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I take it my information wasn't helpful Andy?
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Hi JayG andEvie
Sorry for not thanking you your information was in valuable because i won't have been able to find Jane Ann Rutter parents
but the problem i still have if she was christen Jane Ann Rutter when did her name change to Jane .A.R. Armstrong
I'm now waiting on the daughter in laws mother to have a look at any certificates of her fathers to see what names come up to see if Jane Ann Rutter is Jane .A.R.Armstrong
once again thankyou for all your help
yours Andy
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I'm confused :-\
but the problem i still have if she was christen Jane Ann Rutter when did her name change to Jane .A.R. Armstrong
yours Andy
I notice there was a Jane Ann R Armstrong born 1898 in Auckland 10a 237 Q1. If we could chase that back we may find that Rutter was actually a surname of an ancestor of hers.
Evie
Jane Ann was registered Jane A R Armstrong from birth as above. It would be interesting to see what date in this first quarter she was born compared to the date Elijah and Eliza were married. I suspect Ann was born slightly before they wed.
There are no Jane Ann Rutter's registered within the correct time scale for your Jane Ann :)
Evie
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Hi Evie
just done a quick scan and its looks like birth was registered in March 1898
the marriage between eliza armstrong and elijah rutter was also march 1898
yours andy
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Hi Andy :)
I am intrigued as to where your information is from to know that both were registered in March rather than sometime within the first quarter which covers Jan, Feb and March.
Evie
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Hi Evie
the way i found out they where both in march is when i did a search on ancestry.co.uk under the two names on the right hand side before you open each individual item its say march on the left hand side of the page its say jan/feb/mar
yours andy