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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Lizzielogs on Monday 24 August 09 14:00 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know if the Isle of Thanet Gazette has archives which can be read online, I have Googled but only seem to come up with the fact that the paper is owned by the Courier Media Group?
Thanks for any help, it maybe that I shall have to visit the offices when we go to the UK in September.
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I should also be interested to know the date it started etc. and what was its circulation area.
Thanks, Toby.
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Hi Lizzie
Margate Library has hard copies going back to 1924;
Isle of Thanet Gazette (9 Aug 1924 - )
Hard copy:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924-1960. 1
BLNL: 9 August 1924 -
Microfilm:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924 Ã?. A, B, Recordak and Profile films
What information do you need from it, what year etc?
Matt
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Hi Lizzie
Margate Library has hard copies going back to 1924;
Isle of Thanet Gazette (9 Aug 1924 - )
Hard copy:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924-1960. 1
BLNL: 9 August 1924 -
Microfilm:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924 Ã?. A, B, Recordak and Profile films
What information do you need from it, what year etc?
Matt
Hi Matt
I would like the write up in the paper when my Uncle died and the other one from when my Father died..
Uncle' details; Daniel (Danny) Gower, ex publican Barnaby Rudge Broadstairs. Died 1978 (and I have nothing more precise than that) in Margate Sea Bathing Hospital. Leaves wife Maureen.
Dad's details, John (Jack) Hand, ex publican of St Mildreds Court,Westgate on Sea. Died December 1996 in Margate Hospital. Leaves wife Kay and two daughters.
Anything you can help me with would be brilliant,we are not coming to the UK for a while and whatever you can't find at least I now know where to look.
Thanks for your kindness Matt
Regards from Spain
Lizzielogs
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Hi Lizzie
I'm over in Margate regularly, I'll pop into the library next time I'm there and see what I can find.
Regards
Matt
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Hi Lizzie
I'm over in Margate regularly, I'll pop into the library next time I'm there and see what I can find.
Regards
Matt
Thanks Matt, thats very kind of you :-*
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My question arose from the file just below entitled "Herne Bay Watchmaker". The matter being investigated was :-
"I would have thought that the violent death of a cinema manager overseas would have made the local press. Does anyone know what newspaper would have circulated in Herne Bay?" This is alleged to have taken place in about 1920. If however the Margate hard copy dates back to only 1924, and that is the beginning, then that newspaper will not help.
Thanks, Toby
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My question arose from the file just below entitled "Herne Bay Watchmaker". The matter being investigated was :-
"I would have thought that the violent death of a cinema manager overseas would have made the local press. Does anyone know what newspaper would have circulated in Herne Bay?" This is alleged to have taken place in about 1920. If however the Margate hard copy dates back to only 1924, and that is the beginning, then that newspaper will not help.
Thanks, Toby
Hi Toby
I don't think you will have a lot of luck with the Isle of Thanet Gazette. The Isle of Thanet is only actually Margate, Ramsgate and Broadstairs.
See the following:-
In the Herne Bay area there are four local weekly newspapers: the paid-for Herne Bay Gazette and Herne Bay Times, providing news related only to the town, and the free KM Extra and Canterbury Adscene, providing news on the wider Canterbury district area. The KM Group owns Herne Bay Gazette and KM Extra.
KM in this instance means 'Kent Messenger'
Regards Lizzielogs
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Thank you Lizzielogs. Very helpful indeed.
Toby.
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Sad to say that no Daniel GOWER died in Thanet in 1973, in fact no Gower at all
Any chance you may have made a mistake.
Suzannah
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Sad to say that no Daniel GOWER died in Thanet in 1973, in fact no Gower at all
Any chance you may have made a mistake.
Suzannah
Yes, sorry my mistake, can't read my own writing
Born 5th April 1926 Stepney, Mothers Maiden Name: Harris
Married Esther Maureen Cooper 1961 Thanet
Died 1978 Thanet (Margate Sea Bathing Hospital)
On freeBMD I cant find either the marriage or the death however I know both to be correct. (I hope!!) Strange!
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Here's the marriage;
Name: Daniel J Gower
Spouse Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1961
Registration district: Thanet
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 1694
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Excellent, will try this week if no one beats me to it.
I take it you shall stop for a quick half in Barnaby Rudge while your visiting? :0)
There is still some remains of St Mildreds Hotel in Westgate
Suzannah
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Excellent, will try this week if no one beats me to it.
I take it you shall stop for a quick half in Barnaby Rudge while your visiting? :0)
There is still some remains of St Mildreds Hotel in Westgate
Suzannah
My Dad lived at St Mildred's Court before he died about 15 years ago, is / was that the same place??
I shall be visiting lots of places when we finally get over, I need to photograph a house called 'Ocean View' Beach Road, Westgate (if I can find it), Sparrow Court, Margate, and a visit and photo opportunity at the pub where I grew up, The Queens Head Hotel in Market Square Margate... we came from a long line of boozers, sorry publicans!!
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Yes, St Mildred's Hotel became flats so you can still photograph this
Sadly Sparrow Court has not houses left just workshops.
The Queen's Head is still standing and now known as the Wig and Pen.
Ocean View, have you a time frame and I can then work out what number it is today x
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Yes, St Mildred's Hotel became flats so you can still photograph this
Sadly Sparrow Court has not houses left just workshops.
The Queen's Head is still standing and now known as the Wig and Pen.
Ocean View, have you a time frame and I can then work out what number it is today x
Ocean View is the name from 1916! I was hoping that like a lot of houses the old name may remain on the house or on the glass above the front door, I suspect the only way to find out is to wander along and look at every house, that was what I was planning on anyway! I was born in Elm Grove so will be along there for a snap too!
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I don't have any directories that early I'm afraid. The earliest I have is 1929 Kelly's Directory
While looking through my Westgate Electors Register for 1934 I came across the name hand, may just be a coincidence
Charles Henry and Edith Elizabeth at 5 Belmont Terrace, Belmont Road
Anyhoo, while at the library looking up Daniel Gower I will see if they have a 1916 Directory, I know they stopped for the war and started up again after but could try the 1915 or 1914 too.
Love these Thanet mysteries
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I don't have any directories that early I'm afraid. The earliest I have is 1929 Kelly's Directory
While looking through my Westgate Electors Register for 1934 I came across the name hand, may just be a coincidence
Charles Henry and Edith Elizabeth at 5 Belmont Terrace, Belmont Road
That is no coincidence, thats my paternal Gran & Grandad !! I wonder if that means he was still with her Westgate in 1934 - I suppose it does!!? I have no idea when he jaunted off to New Zealand, I only know that my Mum had no recollection of him and she knew the family many years before her and my Dad married.
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Charles appears in the 1929 at the same address but not in the 1936 directory. Hope that narrows it a bit.
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Not sure this is useful or whther I am telling you things you knw
but Edith Elizabeth was Edith Elizabeth Turner dau of William Henry and Elizabeth. I guess this is why you wanted a pic Sparrow Castle as they are living there in 1901.
From St John's parish records William Henry Turner aged 22 married Elizabeth Cowen aged 25 on 30 March 1891
William's Profession a Labourer, Father William Henry Turner a Carpenter, Elizabeth's John Cowen a Moulder. Witnesses George Cain and Mary Ann Turner
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Charles appears in the 1929 at the same address but not in the 1936 directory. Hope that narrows it a bit.
It certainly does, thank you
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From St John's parish records William Henry Turner aged 22 married Elizabeth Cowen aged 25 on 30 March 1891
William's Profession a Labourer, Father William Henry Turner a Carpenter, Elizabeth's John Cowen a Moulder. Witnesses George Cain and Mary Ann Turner
I knew the bones of this but you have filled in more detail than I had.
Are Parish records available online or are they available to you in another form, of course as I go further back they will become more and more important for research?
Lizzielogs
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I only have a smattering of St John's records on fiche. I couldn;t find the childrens baptism so they may have been baptised at Holy Trinity.
But always ask, I may just be able to help
Suzannah
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Hi Lizzie
Margate Library has hard copies going back to 1924;
Isle of Thanet Gazette (9 Aug 1924 - )
Hard copy:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924-1960. 1
BLNL: 9 August 1924 -
Microfilm:
Kent Arts and Libraries, Margate Library: 1924 Ã?. A, B, Recordak and Profile films
What information do you need from it, what year etc?
Matt
Just rechecked my post and it looks like Margate library might only have a collection from 1924 - 1960? So wouldn't cover your 1978 and 1996 - or am I reading it wrong? ???
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OH yes, perhaps you are right, wonder what happened after that, I will phone them today and find out.
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Don't panic!
Margate Library holds the Kentish Gazette from 1769-1869
Our first newspaper started in 1870, Keble's Gazette from 1870-1909
Isel of Thanet Gazette from 1909 to date
Then Thanet Times from 1896-1919 and 1958 to date
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Don't panic!
Margate Library holds the Kentish Gazette from 1769-1869
Our first newspaper started in 1870, Keble's Gazette from 1870-1909
Isel of Thanet Gazette from 1909 to date
Then Thanet Times from 1896-1919 and 1958 to date
Phew!!
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Don't panic!
Margate Library holds the Kentish Gazette from 1769-1869
Our first newspaper started in 1870, Keble's Gazette from 1870-1909
Isel of Thanet Gazette from 1909 to date
Then Thanet Times from 1896-1919 and 1958 to date
Are you planning a trip to the library soon? I was over there today but didn't manage to make it to the library. If you aren't I'll try and get over there next week.
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Hi Bob
I was looking to go Saturday for my own gain and checking the Hand and Gower death annoucements then but if you go before......
Suzannah x
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Okay looks like you'll be there before me, I won't make it this week. Good luck in the search!
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Sad to say there was no mention of Daniel GOWER in the Thanet Times or Thanet Gazette.
I checked headlines and annoucements but nothing.
There was a death annoucement for John Hand but nothing further.
Thanet Times 24th December 1996
John Henry HAND (Jack)
On 14th December 1996 after a long illness at QEQM, Best beloved husband and father of Trudie, Michele (sic) and grandfather to Anthony.
"I will lift mine eyes up to the sky and see the Lord"
Service in St Saviour's Church Westgate Monday 23rd December at 3.15pm. Family Flowers Only.
Donations to Kent Association for the Blind or Thanet Cancer Reserach UNit C/O Gore Brothers Margate.
Hope that helps a little
Suzannah
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That is above and beyond the call of duty thank you so much, at least I have the date now! Funny it doesn't mention his wife by name, she must have put the announcement in! Pity she couldn't get the spelling on my name right - hey, ho. Families!!
I am still waiting for his father's (?) death certificate to come from New Zealand for chaper 2 of the saga!
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My question arose from the file just below entitled "Herne Bay Watchmaker". The matter being investigated was :-
"I would have thought that the violent death of a cinema manager overseas would have made the local press. Does anyone know what newspaper would have circulated in Herne Bay?" This is alleged to have taken place in about 1920. If however the Margate hard copy dates back to only 1924, and that is the beginning, then that newspaper will not help.
Thanks, Toby
Hi Toby
I don't think you will have a lot of luck with the Isle of Thanet Gazette. The Isle of Thanet is only actually Margate, Ramsgate and Broadstairs.
See the following:-
In the Herne Bay area there are four local weekly newspapers: the paid-for Herne Bay Gazette and Herne Bay Times, providing news related only to the town, and the free KM Extra and Canterbury Adscene, providing news on the wider Canterbury district area. The KM Group owns Herne Bay Gazette and KM Extra.
KM in this instance means 'Kent Messenger'
Regards Lizzielogs
The Herne Bay Library has micro-film of local newspapers and certainly the Herne Bay Press from about 1880 - 1981. They also have a small selection of directories and other books of local interest.
Toby.
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Hi All
Is the Thanet Gazette the best local newspaper for researching Ramsgate in the early 20th century?
I see that Margate library only has hard copies going back to 1924. Does anyone know if there are earlier copies archived elsewhere in Kent?
I am looking for information on Arthur W Watson who was the Headmaster of St Lawrence's Boys School in Thanet, Ramsgate from about 1909 until about 1925 and in particular I am trying to discover when he left Ramsgate. He lived at 32 Dundonald Road, Ramsgate.
Thanks in advance
Roger
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Ramsgate Library would be the best for Ramsgate papers and their main one was the East Kent Times, this covered Ramsgate and St Lawrence where as the Thanet gazette was more Margate orientated.
Margate Library has papers going back to 1870 for Thanet and this kid 1700s for the Kentish Gazette.
Arthur does not appear in the 1929 Kelly's Directory for Ramsgate
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Thanks Suzannah
Do you know what years for the East Kent Times are held at Ramsgate library?
Roger
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Might be worth dropping them a line.
I do know they now have super duper microfilm machines you can put a usb into and save pages rather than printing grainy images though!
ramsgatelibrary@kent.gov.uk
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Thanks for that Suzannah.
I have emailed Ramsgate Library.
Roger
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This may also be useful and it is free!!
http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/open/index.jsp;jsessionid=96DADA97DC0E84BEC12CE2283ACA3851
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Hi Suzannah
I actually signed up for access to the scans of the South Eastern Gazette yesterday and to be honest I am rather disappointed with it. I find that it is not very user friendly as it is very difficult to determine which results are the ones that are of interest.
Maybe I am doing something wrong. Have you tried to search this collection of newspapers?
Roger
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Just a case or perseverance really, being a free site!