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Title: ireland to england
Post by: alanvale on Thursday 03 March 05 00:27 GMT (UK)
can anyone tell me how i find out about people who moved to england from ireland in the mid 1800s..ie what records there are, what ship they sailed on etc..im stuck please help
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: possum_pie on Thursday 03 March 05 00:42 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately I have no idea but if you find out I'd love to know!!  However, I am going to the records office in Dublin at the end of this month so if there's anything I  can look up for you then feel free to ask.

Ish  ;D
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: alanvale on Thursday 03 March 05 00:50 GMT (UK)
thanks possum,but i the more i look back the more irish relitives i find.i did hear the records in ireland where destroyed by fire..i was hoping there are shipping lists or something held in this country... ;)
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: tarnee on Thursday 03 March 05 02:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

According to one Irish site the records destroyed  was part of l years census, they stated that all other records BMD are intacted, if this is of any help.
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: alanvale on Thursday 03 March 05 20:23 GMT (UK)
hi tarnee
i will try again thanks for your help :D
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: jmg1414 on Wednesday 16 March 05 20:03 GMT (UK)
Hello all

new to this forum.

Great Grandmother Sophia Rebecca Turney born 1843 Londonderry..

moved to London..

Father Thomas found on marriage cert 1866.

Married in London

canot find Birth any help please????/
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: Christopher on Monday 21 March 05 03:07 GMT (UK)
Hello Folks,

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. There were no records of people moving from Ireland to England. Records were not required for people moving from one part of the United Kingdom to another part. On January 1st, 1801, The Kingdom of Great Britain merged with the Kingdom of Ireland to form the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. In 1922 twenty six Irish counties left the United Kingdom to form the Irish Free State.

Hi jmg,

http://www.proni.gov.uk/records/church.htm If I am reading this correctly PRONI should have birth records for your great grandmother. Was she born in Londonderry City or in the County of Londonderry ? That may be a silly question as it strikes me that the birth should be registered as Londonderry be it city or county. Have you been along this line or should I make some enquiries on your behalf ?
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: jan117 on Monday 21 March 05 03:24 GMT (UK)
hi christopher
do these records include southern ireland?
jan
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: Christopher on Monday 21 March 05 05:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Jan,

You had me confused for a minute. I thought we were still discussing Ireland to England.

You're asking about Church Records. PRONI have records for the nine counties of Ulster i.e they have records for three of the counties in the south of Ireland - Monaghan, Donegal and Louth and they have records for the other six in the north of Ireland i.e. Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone.

Other records for the south of Ireland are available in Dublin.

Christopher

Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: jmg1414 on Monday 21 March 05 11:50 GMT (UK)
Hello Christopher

Thanks a lot for your link to proni.
Any help would be appreciated...
I have a marriage cert for Sophia Rebecca 1866 Trinity Church St Mary Newington Surrey on it she states that her father was Thomas..a Hop Porter

On subsequent uk census we find her living in London and sh always states she was born in Londonderry.
I have what I think is her and her brother in London on the 1861 census Brother called John both born Ireland but no parents, living with relatives.
I assume her parents did come to England as I do not associate Ireland with hops????  any help please

Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: Christopher on Monday 21 March 05 19:46 GMT (UK)



I assume her parents did come to England as I do not associate Ireland with hops???? any help please

Hello,

Oh dear !  ::) Hops are used in the brewing industry. It appears that the advertising and promotional people employed in the Irish brewing industry have not being doing their job too well.  :D I suppose the other possibility is that you are tea total.
Title: Re: ireland to england
Post by: alanvale on Monday 21 March 05 23:45 GMT (UK)
hi christopher thanks for your help... i really dont have a clue with the irish side of my family...yet the more i look the more irish  find  :-\