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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: mck on Saturday 22 August 09 11:58 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am working on my late mother-in-law’s side of our family tree; trying to get info on Charles Hutchison he married Mary Jane Quigg in Londonderry in 1865. Her father was John Quigg her mother Nancy Hutchison I think. I know they had a James, William Mary Anne have their birthdays but they also have Thomas Wray and a Charles can’t find there births. Mary Jane died in Glasgow 1915 son Charles was on certificate son Thomas was my mother-in-law’s ggrand father. Any help would be appreciated
Regards Janice
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Three children of Charles and Mary Jane are listed in IGI (surname Hutchinson/Hutchison)- James (1865 Articlave district), Mary Anne (1869), William (1875).
Hutchinson/Hutchison is a very common surname in Articlave/Dunboe area so you probably need to search church records (if they exist).
Index to civil registration is online (free) and there are lots of Thomas Hutchinsons and a few Charles Hutchinsons in Coleraine registration district. Possible death for Charles Hutchinson in 1897 gives his birthdate as c1897.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Janice,
Checking in Emerald Ancestors I found William and Mary Anne. I also found JOSEPH, born on 17 Dec 1871 making him William's twin. No sign of the others but my source only covers 1864-1874 and probably does not cover everyone.
Regards
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Quigg
Thanks Aghadowey and Kingskerswell
I have William and Joseph 17 Dec 1871 along with Mary Anne 18 Sep 1869 that you found Kingskerswell, also a William 15 Aug 1875 so did first William die? He is with a James 5 nov 1865 and Mary Anne 18 sep 1869 that you found Aghadowey but no Thomas or Charles. Must try and find out when they came to scotland ???
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I have an Eliza Jane QUIGG b abt 1843 (Baptised 22 Nov 1843 in Cullycapple, Aghadowey, County Derry) father was John QUIGG & mother Rose McKeefer or McIvor.
I have some further details if you think there is a connection
Regards
Pat
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I have an Eliza Jane QUIGG b abt 1843 (Baptised 22 Nov 1843 in Cullycapple, Aghadowey, County Derry) father was John QUIGG & mother Rose McKeefer or McIvor.
I have some further details if you think there is a connection
Regards
Pat
Any idea what religion the Quiggs were? Do you mean they lived at Cullycapple or that you think the baptism took place at Cullycapple?
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The baptismal record is Roman Catholic shows 22/11/1843 Cullycapple, Coleraine (I don't know if that was the address of the church or her home address) shows father John Quig (one g) mother Rosie McIvor, sponsers Patrick Quig and Catherine Boyle the Rev Terence McGowan shown in notes.
I know Eliza went Londonderry to Quebec on 8th May 1868 and married Andrew Gillen 9th June 1868 in Basilique Notre Dame Ottawa, he was also from Londonderry.They had 1 child Martha Ann who was baptised 18th Dec 1870 in Basilique Notre Dame Ottawa.Their second child John is shown born 14th March 1873 in Cullycapple and baptised Roman Catholic on 15th March 1873 in Lassamore, Coleraine, sponsor's Daniel Quig and Susan Tendin and Rev J McCready in notes.I pick up the trail again in Glasgow with birth of Rosetta 7th Dec 1877 in Anderton subsequently had at least 3 other children all spending the rest of their days in the same area of Glasgow. Eliza Jane died 21st March 1916 aged 73 years. Andrew and Eliza Jane Gillen are my great grandparents
Many thanks
Pat
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The baptismal record is Roman Catholic shows 22/11/1843 Cullycapple, Coleraine (I don't know if that was the address of the church or her home address) shows father John Quig (one g) mother Rosie McIvor, sponsers Patrick Quig and Catherine Boyle the Rev Terence McGowan shown in notes.
Problem here is that the present R.C. Chapel is in the townland of Cullycapple (unfortuantely I have to go to a friend's funeral there tomorrow morning) but was not built until 1890s. The earlier Chapel was not far away in the townland of Mullahinch (but also know as Bovagh Chapel- Bovagh is just across river from Mullahinch) but fell into disrepair and for quite a few years Dick Toye's barn was used until the 'new' (present) chapel was built.
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Problem here is that the present R.C. Chapel is in the townland of Cullycapple (unfortuantely I have to go to a friend's funeral there tomorrow morning) but was not built until 1890s. The earlier Chapel was not far away in the townland of Mullahinch (but also know as Bovagh Chapel- Bovagh is just across river from Mullahinch) but fell into disrepair and for quite a few years Dick Toye's barn was used until the 'new' (present) chapel was built.
Aghadowey
Nothing is every easy is it.
I got the records from Irish Family History Foundation at 5 euros a time!
On John Gillen's RC baptism record the address is Lissamore, Coleraine I have searched the web with a negative result. Could it be a transcription mistake?
Maybe I have to try and view the origional records?
Would you think there would be a resource showing where catholic priests were working in the area.
Great to have contact with someone who knows the area
Many thanks
Pat
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I do love the way some records are transcibed (they did Scalty as Leatty for one I saw- and the original is crystal clear!).
'Lissamore' is Lissaghmore townland in Agivey Parish, not far from Cullycapple. 1831 Census for Lissaghmore shows a Thos. Gillen head of household with 3 males, 3 females (all R.C.).
Lissaghmore comes under the Worshipful Company of Ironmongers and their Notes on Tenants (1863) give the following:
-Thomas Gillan (6 acres 3 rods 10 perches) annual rent £4 12s. Son, his wife and their 3 children. Poor place and people.
- Andrew Gillan (6 acres 2 rods 10 perches) £4 annual rent. And son. Poor people and a miserable place.
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A bit more-
Ironmongers' Lists of Tenants (Nov.1886)- Lissaghmore-
Andrew Gillan 9 acres 0 rods 14 perches £5 5s 0d.
Edward Gillan 4 acres 1 rod 6 perches £3 6s 0d.
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Many thanks for the info, all helps build a picture.
I now know where Lissaghmore is, would you know if there was a RC church there at the time.
One of the most fascinating aspects of family history for me are the social and economic conditions prevalent at the time that affected every aspect of our ancestors life. Do you know of any local history publications about the area in the mid 1800S?
Thanks again any further info or suggestions gratefully received
Best
Pat
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The chapel at Cullycapple that I mentioned earlier covers Agivey Parish (built 1890s). Earlier chapel was in the townland of Mullaghinch but in between mass was held in Dick Toy's barn until paperwork to build at Cullycapple was sorted out.
For some local history of the area there are Ordnance Survey Memoirs reprinted a few years ago (can't remember volume number and my copy's downstairs at the moment) and Dr. Mullin's book "Aghadowey A Parish and Its Linen Industry" published in 1972 (out of print, copies no longer available).
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Aghadowey
Thank you, still coming to terms with the geography of the area.I have ordered a copy of the OS and found some of Dr Mullin's book transcribed on the net. Are there any Gillen, Quigg or Bradley's still in the area that you know of?
Thanks again for the info
Regards
Pat
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Pat,
I have a copy of the Rev.T.H. Mullins book Aghadowey, A Parish and its Linen Industry which Aghadowey mentioned. If you come across any sections on the net where you would like greater detail please let me know.
Regards
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Hi
Many thanks for the offer.
If anyone finds a spare copy please let me know!
Regards
Pat
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Aghadowey book was published in 1972 and is out of print. Second-hand copies (rare as hen's teeth now) go for about £50 when they turn up!