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Title: Plain Jane - Completed
Post by: LisaHallworth on Thursday 20 August 09 18:23 BST (UK)
Plain Jane would be so much easier??   :-\

I have just got a birth cert from 1858 for an ancestor in Co. Durham.  His mother has quite a list of former names.
I'll paste in the image, but here is what I believe it to say:

Jane Sennett, late H (?) ope, formerly Mc**ene.
 
(father Sennett was a coal miner)

X  the mark of Jane Sennett, mother, Tottenham {no really - that's what it's called}, Coundon.


I left in the extra bits as I think it can help, sometimes, to see exactly how that Registrar scrawled an "e", and so on.  Obviously her maiden name is the tricky bit.   McIrene...McLene???

I'm presuming that the section about her name is telling me that she was born a Mc**ene, then married a Hope, who died & then she married a Sennett.

Would appreciate any help here from folks more used to this style of handwriting than I.

Regards Lisa
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Tati on Thursday 20 August 09 18:32 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa,

I'd say Sennett - Hope - McVene

 :)
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Hibee on Thursday 20 August 09 18:40 BST (UK)
McBene gets 4x as many hits as McVene.

Hibee
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 20 August 09 18:42 BST (UK)
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McBene gets 4x as many hits as McVene.

where ?
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: danuslave on Thursday 20 August 09 18:45 BST (UK)
I don't think that's a capital B.  How about McLene?  Lots of hits in census.

Almost certainly  Hope

Linda
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Hibee on Thursday 20 August 09 19:05 BST (UK)
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McBene gets 4x as many hits as McVene.

where ?

Using a search engine.
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 20 August 09 19:13 BST (UK)
relevant & focussed ?
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 20 August 09 23:01 BST (UK)
Hi I
I would say by the look of the writers lead in stroke in the 't's' and 'k' in mark! that this is not a 'b'! the v sharpe corner is there on the upper right of the V''

Mc'vene
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: LisaHallworth on Thursday 20 August 09 23:15 BST (UK)
Dear All
What a great response!
I didn't think there would be any answers yet, and you've proved me wrong.

I have to admit I believe it looks like McVene, not McBene.  Not a name I've heard before, and also not one which gets me a hit for her marriages on FreeBMD... yet!

You've been a great help, folks. Many Thanks!    :D
Lisa
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: danuslave on Friday 21 August 09 00:31 BST (UK)
Have you tried McLene?

Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 21 August 09 08:08 BST (UK)
Bottom line is! it could be any B-V-or L as need to check all possibles out

Dobby
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: Tati on Friday 21 August 09 08:17 BST (UK)
Doesn't help (if I'm looking at the right family in 1861 at RG9/3709 60 1) that the parents were both from Ireland  :P
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 21 August 09 09:05 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa
 Could Dance round this cert too the cows come home.???
Most poster replies stick to the answer the Topic only Rule. Sorry!I don't!! only answer Logic!

Therefore try and find a brother or sister's birth certificate 1858+/- Co Durham and that may show the mothers Info. Also find the parents marriage.

Get in touch with Durham library and ask about parish registers of this event and Electoral registors. Trade Directories for the father and their advice. Check Hugh Wallis for a run down of Bapt of siblings of the parents. Archives will have poor law info Overseers accounts parish of births in Durham.
Title: Re: Plain Jane
Post by: LisaHallworth on Monday 24 August 09 17:32 BST (UK)
Thankyou to all posters here for continuing to give me very useful hints about where to go next with this lass.

The 1861 Census & Free BMD does indeed show that there was a younger sister, and suggests that Jane herself died in 1864. The children seem to be living with an Uncle's family by 1871.  Brief & Busy lives, eh?

Not yet coming up with any details on her marriages, but as Tati said, they could have married in Ireland.

Particular thanks to dobfarm for the hints.  I have now tried all combinations of V, B and L - with Mc, Mac, etc, etc. 

I'm very grateful for the use of your eyes & brains. Shall we call this topic closed now, as it's becoming more about Jane than about the handwriting!??

All the best, Lisa