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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Suecro on Monday 17 August 09 18:19 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have found a record which could possibly be my Grandfathers Brother. I have been unable to find a service record. I have a couple of questions: What does it mean by Theatre of War, What does D.C.M mean and where could I go to verify that this is/is not my relative.
Name Albert George Crouch
Birth Place Wood Green Middlesex
Residence London
Death date 16 Nov 1918
Enlistment Wood Green
Rank L Corporal
Regiment Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex Regiment)
Battalion 13th
Number F/1291
Type of Casualty Died of wounds
Theatre of War Aldershot
Comments D.C.M
Thanks for any help
Regards Sue
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Hi Sue
Does this help at all. It is the CWGC.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=536427
Evie
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Hi Evie
Wow that was quick, and yes it is my Grandfathers brother. Thank you so much for that, I have been searching for weeks
Sue
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The DCM was the Distinguished Conduct Medal but I don't know any details about it. I'm sure there will be lots on google including photographs of one.
I'm sure someone on here will also explain about the medal and the meaning of theatre of war as they are very experienced.
Evie
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You can search the London Gazette online and hopefully find a citation for his DCM
The LG search Engine is quite difficult to navigate however there are a few RCs on here that have the"magic" touch and seem to be able to find citations easily hopefully one of them will pick up on this and post it if you cant find it :)
Ady
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Your initial entry must have come from Ancestry who made a pigs-ear out of the transcription for Theatre of War among other mistakes. The Theatre of War should be France and Flanders.
13th Battalion Manchester Regt.
Formed at Ashton-under-Lyne September 1914 - Kitcheners 3rd 100,000 - to Seaford as Army Troops in 25th Division . but soon went to 66 Brigade, 22nd Division in place of 14th Battalion. November 1914 to Eastbourne in billets. March 1915 to Seaford, May 1915 to Aldershot, Early September 1915 to France. October/November 1915 to Salonika (Greece) 22nd June 1918 left 22nd Division for France arriving Abancourt 11 July. 22nd July to 66th Division and absorbed by 9th Battalion.
1/9th Battalion Manchester Regiment.
4th August 1814 Ashton-under-Lyne: East Lancs Division and in camp near Bury till end of month. 10th September 1914 sailed from Southamton for Egypt arriving Alexandria 25th September. 10th May 1915 to Gallipoli 26th May 1915 formation became 126 Brigade, 42nd Division. End December 1915 evacuated to Mudros. January 1916 to Egypt. March 1917 to France. 19th February 1918 to 198 Brigade 66th Division absorbing 2/9th Battalion becoming 9th Battalion . April 1918 reduced to training cadre. 22nd July 1918 reconstituted by absorbing 13th Battalion (from 22nd Division at Salonika). becoming 9th Battalion again. 11th November 1918 at Solre -le- Chateau near Avesnes.
Buzancy18
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Hello Sue,
I think what Ady means is will I look it up. ;D
London Gazette Issue 30601, Page 3851, 26th March 1918.
Here is the link:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30601/supplements/3851
If you go back to Page 3843, it will give you the preamble.
Phil
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............. and by the way Sue,
Just to correct the other mistake in Ancestry's version of SDGW:
Born: Wood Green, Middlesex
Enlisted: London
Residence: Wood Green
Phil
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Hi All
Thanks for all the help you have given me with this, I would have struggled to find all that info so quickly.
Would a death certificate have been done for them in France?
Thanks again
Sue
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Sue
Yes he would have an oveseas death cert but doubtful if it will give anymore info.
Ady
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Hi All
I am just showing a friend at work all the info you have found for me, and she said is there a Devon equivelant to the London Gazette.
Sue
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London Gazette covered the whole country Sue
Cheers
Sue
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The GRO War Death Index (1914-1921) Number for L/Corporal Albert George Crouch F/1291
is: Vol, I.70, Page 213,
Regards Briant
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Hi Sue
I think what she meant are there any online sites that have archives for local news ie Devon
Sue
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Hi Briant
Thanks for the GRO details, I will order it to go with all the other info I have been given in the last 24 hours.
Thanks again
Sue
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Hi Briant
Do you have a link to the GRO site, i have been searching but got nowhere again.
Sue
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Here you are,
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Regards Briant
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My grandfather Richard Coleman was killed serving with the 7th battalion south Lancashire regiment on the 10 June 1917. He has no known grave so I am trying to find out if possible where and how he died so as I can try and find a likely cemetery he may be in any help you can give will be most grateful.
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By the dates it looks like he was a casualty at the Battle Of Messines he has no known grave as his body may have been recovered and buried but subsequently lost to Artillery bombardments devastating the ground he was buried in... alternatively if he was killed in an artillery strike there may have been no body left to bury..
Unit War Diary for 7th South Lancs should give approx positions where they were....
There are 54000 Lads with no known grave remembered on the Menin Gate memorial on the Ypres Salient.
Ady
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finpat,
I have posted some info on your other thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469708.0.html