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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: forloveofmother on Monday 17 August 09 08:15 BST (UK)
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Hi there! I am new this site. I came across an old message from January 2006 from Aleks, a Presbyterian living in the townland of Annahinchago whose family have lived there for a number of generations. I am hoping to find my mother's great grandparents - William Martin YOUNG, born about 1824 of Annahinchago, Down Ireland, of the famous Dolly's Brae at which he bore arms. He married Jane McIlroy, born about 1828 of Annahinchago, Down Ireland. Their daughter Rachel Young was born about 1847 of Annahinchago, Down Ireland and died 1918 Rathfriland, Down Ireland. Rachel was the mother of Robert Bell born 1885 of Rathfriland, County, Down. Robert is my mother's father. I am hoping to get any information on these great grandparents and to verify any of the above dates. Thank you for viewing my post. :)
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Hi,
Welcome to Rootschat. The only one I can find is the marriage of Rachel Young to Robert Bell on
1 May 1873 in Drumlee Presbyterian Church, Drumgooland Parish, Banbridge.
Regards
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According to http://www.thecore.com/seanruad the correct spelling of the townland is :
Annahunshigo 553acres in the barony of Upper Iveagh, Lower part in the civil parish of Drumballyroney County Down.
OTTO
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:-* Thanks for the speedy reply Otto. Would the spelling of Annahunshigo have been Annahinchago in the 1800's. I am wondering where my mother got this spelling from on all her paperwork.
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Griffith's lists the name as Annahunshigo but there're often variations in the spelling of Irish place names based on pronunciation so your mother's version is also correct (and there could easily be others).
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:-* Thanks for the speedy reply Otto. Would the spelling of Annahunshigo have been Annahinchago in the 1800's. I am wondering where my mother got this spelling from on all her paperwork.
Back then names of places etc.. were spelt how they sounded, so any spelling is acceptable. Check aghadowey's posting.
OTTO
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:-* Kingskerswell, Also many thanks for your quick reply regarding the marriage of Rachel Young to Robert Bell in 1873. My mother has that date documented already but thank you for the confirmation. So where do I look from here. I also need the dates on the BELL side of her great grandparents, Robert BELL born about 1822, of Seafin, Down, Ireland who married Martha BELL (I believe a second cousin) also of Seafin, Down, Ireland, who was born about 1826. They are parents to the above Robert BELL whose marriage you found. Thanks so much.
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Have you seen Ros Davies' Co. Down site yet? an amazing collection of records- you might want to start going through the Surname section for your names and then check the other areas there:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
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:D Thank you aghadowey for contributing your information with regards to Annahunshigo. I'll also give the Ros Davies' Co. Down site another more indepth look. So much information to digest for a beginner.
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Annahunshigo is the eastern part of the townland of Annahinshigo and was shown as a different place on old maps. The older generation always refered to these places as two seperate areas. The area is now called Annahinshigo but there is still a bog there known as Hunshigo bog.
Sam.
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My wife is the 2nd great granddaughter of William Martin Young.
Some dates in my records are approximate:
William Martin Young b.c. 1806 d. 27 May 1862
married Jane McIlroy b.c. 1808 d.c. 1889 [ daughter of Robert McIlroy ]
children: Robert McIlroy Young b.c. 1839 d. 24 Oct 1897
married Eliza Jane Truesdale b.c. 1847 d. 6 Nov 1930
Ann Young b.c. 1841 d.c. 1929
To date, I have no records for a Rachel Young or a Robert Bell.
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Hi Les, have you looked at the 1911 census Dublin, there are Youngs and Bells listed from the areas you are asking about. With some of those births from 1885 and deaths not until 1930 should be there, there are Youngs from Annahunshigo (Tirkelly) Co.Down listed. It would be worth a search. Mabes.
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Hello Mabes,
Thanks for reminding me about the 1911 Census. I have found quite a lot of names so now will have to figure out how they all connect to my tree. Leslie
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Glad you checked that census, I think there is an Eliza Jane aged about 64 which sounds about right for the Eliza Jane b 1847., you mentioned on a past post, and also knowing that the area Tirkelly also included Annahinchago. I hope you find something that relates to your family. Good luck Mabes.
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Hi,
William Martin Young and Jane McIlroy were my great-great-great-grandparents. My great-great-grandparents were Robert McIlroy Young and his wife Eliza Truesdale. Their daughter Anna Eliza Young and her husband Joe Magill were my great-grandparents.
Not sure if you've got further back, but William Martin Young was the son of Robert Young and Elizabeth Martin. Robert's father was William Young, his father was a Robert Young, and Robert's father was another Robert Young.
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PS Don't worry about the spelling of the townland as I've seen loads of variations. Just think phonetically - if it sounds the same, it probably is the same.
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Hello Fiona,
Thank you for the invite to "be given chapter and verse on the YOUNGS of Annahinchago." My head is spinning at this point as I am trying to understand where everyone fits into the line of so many named William and Robert (both on the Young's and the Bell's family tree). I am sending this quick post to let you know I am very interested in our shared correspondence. The evening is late, so I will make another post tomorrow hopefully.
Just in brief, I am also looking for Robert BELL (born about 1822) of Seafin, Down, Ireland, who married Martha Bell (nee Bell) born about 1826 also of Seafin, Down, Ireland. They are my mother's great grandparents. As mother was off on the dates for the great grandparents of William Young and Jane McIlroy (thinking they were born in the 1820's), she might also be off by 10-15 years on these two.
Their son Robert Bell born 1848 in Seafin, Down, Ireland, died 1919 in Rathfriland was married to Rachel Young born 1847 of Annahinchago (sister to Robert Young born 1839, whose father was William Young). Their son Robert Bell born 1885 of Rathfriland married Anna Achs (Ochs German spelling) 1911 Oakland, California, USA, and blessed me with my mother Roberta Rachel Bell in 1919 and her older sister.
I will post again soon.
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Hi,
There are various spellings of Annahinchago /Annahunshigo / Hunshigo etc........we live in the townland of Annahunshigo, just outside Rathfriland, the Lake in the townland is marked as Hunshigo Lake on the map....lots of interpretations of what was probably quite an old name. I am new to this site (this is my first post!) so looking forward to learning more about my own family (Fishers)
Trevor
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Hello Trevor,
Have you or your family lived long in the townland of Annahunshigo (Annahinchago) and what would be the names of the Presbyterian churches there. I am searching for the Youngs from Annahinchago and the Bells from Rathfriland, both are my mother's great great grandparents. The years would be from 1824 all the way down to 1800s as my mother was not sure of the dates (probaby more around 1806 for both lines). I wish you great success on your Fishers line. You will find this a wonderful site with so many helpful and friendly people.
:)
Cathy
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Hi Cathy,
Our two local Presbyterian Churches are Ballyroney and Drumlee. I will have a look in the Ballyroney churchyard this weekend and in Rathfriland when I get a chance. Rathfriland is only a few miles up the road.
Trevor
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Apologies for being forgetfull! We have only lived here for 5 years. My wife (Smith / Hollinger) is originallyl from Ballymena, I am from Co Wicklow (Fisher / Nash / Paine / Thompson)
Trevor
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Not sure this will help but I have just reviewed a set of inquest records of a death that occurred near Annahinchago circa 1922. A motorcyclist was shot dead at a B Special roadblock. One of the constables was named William Young. See below. I can give you the PRONI reference number for this entire document if you wish. Ron
Deposition of William Young
I am William Young Sworn B Special, Commandant of the B Special Constabulary at Annahinchago. John Bell, John Lynn and Gerard Van El and l were on patrol duty on the morning of the 6th instance. John Bell was in charge. Gerard Van El came to my house about 10 p.m. and I immediately proceeded to Annahinchago Crossroads where we found the body of deceased lying on the side of the road. I assisted to take the body of deceased to Mr. Casey's house. We put him into the barn. I went out and got my push bicycle and went to Rathfriland and reported the matter to my superior officer Robert Stevenson at his house in Rathfriland and then went for Dr Speedy.
Signed: William John Young