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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: magicnanny on Sunday 16 August 09 21:13 BST (UK)
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I was given a box of Family photos the other day , Looking through them I, found this one .
It is my mothers uncle from the first world war . Norfolk regiment . the strange almost spooky thing is Im sure i saw it in a book a few months ago down my local library . I can't remenber what the book was called and there are so many WW1 books there , I was wondering if anybody recognize it ,as it must of been a book for the WW1 maybe Norfolk Reg/
many thanks
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I cannot help with the book, but if you want to know about his battalion (and the rifle) let me know.
Ken
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Yes please ,I would love to know it would confirm what I think i already know ,but I'm not a 100%.I have the Norfolk regiment or Northamptonshire 1st reg/, if it is the Norfolk it might be at Thetford Norfolk ! My grandads brother was in both the Norfolk and Northampton and this would confirm it was him In died sadly at the battle of Somme .It would be so nice to know that it was him in the photo .
Thanks . Magic
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OOOOO' so hoping somebody would come back with some info ...even on the uniform /regiment...
pleaseeee
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I was given a box of Family photos the other day , Looking through them I, found this one .
It is my mothers uncle from the first world war . Norfolk regiment . the strange almost spooky thing is Im sure i saw it in a book a few months ago down my local library . I can't remenber what the book was called and there are so many WW1 books there , I was wondering if anybody recognize it ,as it must of been a book for the WW1 maybe Norfolk Reg/
many thanks
can any one help ? please
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Hello
Def Norfolk regiment. Arthur Wymer No 1633 was a territorial soldier and is seen wearing the imperial service clasp ( willingness to serve overseas). He later transferred to the Northamptonshire's No 43447, 1st Battalion and was KIA 9/9/16. (later battles of the Somme).
David
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Thankyou David ,
That's just what I needed as i had only taken a guess .This photo is inportant to me .so i greatly appreciate your help . I can now put him on my family tree and album
many thanks
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Hi, this is going to sound a bit weird... so please bear with me!
I was visiting my Nan (Hilda Dxxxxxx) with my Mum (Julie Dxxxxxx). I was speaking with them both about family history and in particular family members that fought in WW1. My Nan suggested I look up Arthur Wymer. So I did, she was amazed that I found him online at all, and preceeded to give her snippets of information, like where he was killed and other bits and bobs... then I found your photo of him and you mention you are related! So, I guess we probably are too albeit distantly!
I only registered on this site so I could contact you, so haven't read the rules on what I can or cannot say. If its ok to give you an email address I would explain further and provided some amazing information on other family members from the same era which I found amazing.
Best regards, Dan
Moderator comment. Full names of living people removed as per Rootschat Policy
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Hello Dan , I have only just seen your post on A Wymer ,If you would like to Pm me or to give any information that would be great if not i would be pleased to reply on here I' am always interested to find out more on the Wymer family and if there is anything I can help you with I will try . thankyou or your post Magicnanny .
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It was the 6th Battalion of the Norfolks that was a Territorial Cyclist battalion. Before WW1 they were part-timers based in Norwich. In WW1 they went full-time and added second line and third units. They did not go overseas. So he must have transferred to the Northamptonshire Regiment before going to France.
If you get no joy here ask on the Great War Forum when his two numbers were issued. For the Norfolks you need to mention the 6th Bn. If he went overseas after 1st January 1916 he would not have received a star. But he may have been awarded the Territorial Force (War) Medal.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/
What the link fails to mention is that the TFM was only issued to men who did not receive the 1914-15 Star. Only about 30,000 were issued as the man had to join the TF, sign the Imperial Obligation by the end of September 1914, and be kept back in the UK until 1916.
Ken
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Arthur Wymer would have enlisted about February 1915 and served in the 2/6th (Clyclist) Battalion of the Norfolk Regiment until transferred for overseas service amongst a group of men in mid-1916. Most men of this group had not signed the Imperial Service Obligation volunteering for service overseas, but Arthur Wymer obviously had because he is wearing the ISO badge on his uniform in the photo. He would have been part of a group of 2/6th Norfolks transferred to the Northamptonshire Regiment in the summer of 1916 following casualties taken on the Somme. The group embarked to France via Folkestone/Boulogne on 30 July 1916 being transferred for records purposes to the 1/1 Hertfordshire Regiment. On arrival each became entitled to the British War Medal and Victory Medal. They arrived at No. 17 Infantry Base Depot at Etaples on 31 July 1916. They were posted to 1st Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment on 23 August 1916. They were then permanently transferred to the 4th Reserve Battalion, Northamptonshire Regiment on 1 September 1916 and renumbered (Arthur Wymer getting his 43447 number at that point), and posted to 1st Battalion for active service in the trenches.
Arthur Wymer was killed at High Wood during an attempt to seize the German held half of High Wood on 9 September 1916. The British blew an underground mine under the German lines (the second in the same location) and rushed forward to attack the disoriented German defenders. They were not able to get enough men up in the tangle of the wood to hold on to the trenches and were pushed back. High Wood was finally taken in full on the 15 September 1916.
Steve.
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Hi Stebie9173 and KM1971 I would just like to say a very big thankyou to both of you for the information you have given me on Arthur Wymer . I have found it so interesting and certainly makes you think about the all the brave soldiers who fort in WW1 I' have still not found the book but will always be looking out for it . but the information you have given me has certainly made up for it thankyou once again Magicnanny .