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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: toddy on Wednesday 02 March 05 11:33 GMT (UK)
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Researching John Todd born in Hillsborough about 1788. moved to Stranraer, Scotland in the early 1800's working as a sherriff officer. any info welcome
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Hello toddy,
What denomination was John Todd?
You'll have to rely on Church records as civil registration in Ireland was not introduced until 1864. Non Catholic marriages were registered from 1845 onwards. When registration for BDMS started in 1864 some people didn't bother with the registration for a few years after that date. Keep your fingers crossed that church records still exist.
Christopher
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Hi Christopher.
As far as I can gather my John Todd was Protestant. He died in 1854 in Scotland so I had no death registered here to tell me his parents or other info.
Any help you could give me would be much appreciated.
John Todd (Toddy)
Glasgow
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Protestant is not a denomination. To search for church records (if they exist) you need to know what religion the family were: Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, etc.
Checked LDS catalogue for Hillsborough and unfortunately they haven't microfilmed any records for that place (only a history of Hillsborough Presbyterian Church).
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Hi toddy,
It looks as though John left Hillsborough before the First Presbyterian Church (http://www.presbyterianireland.org/congregations/hillsborough.html) was built, on its present site, in 1833. The church was completely rebuilt in 1885.
Click (http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=179) to see the Downshire Leases of 1762 on the Ulster Ancestry website as they mention a John Todd with a lease dated 1769.
Christopher
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Thanks for the help Christopher.
My John Todd left Ireland prior to 1819 as this was when his first son was born in Wigtonshire. I think he was also married here after leaving County Down, sadly I cant find a marriage or a birth for him anywhere.
All the best,
Toddy
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we have DNA samples from a couple of Todd families in Co Down. If you do a DNA sample for your Todds, perhaps you'll find a match.
Richard
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How would I go about that?
Toddy
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HI Toddy,
You sent me your snail mail address. I order you a DNA kit. If you are a male Todd desc of a male Todd desc of a male Todd, then you are a suitable donor of a DNA test. When the kit arrives in the mail, you swab the inside of your cheek for 20 seconds and put the swab into an envelope and mail back to the lab. Six weeks later we have results to compare with the other Todd DNA samples we have analyzed.
Some people pay for the test themselves alone; others ask 4 others to join them in funding the sample. With 5 people, the cost is $26 US per person.
I just ordered a kit for a Todd family from northern Antrim and two from Co Tyrone.
Here's my email if you want to communicate directly with me about this.
Richard
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The John Todd at Carricknaveagh in 1769 pointed out by Christopher was in Killaney parish a few miles east of Hillsboro. This Todd family goes back to the 1600s as freeholders.
Richard
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HI Toddy,
I was wondering if you ever saw my message about how to go about doing the DNA and if you have any interest in this???
I have recruited Todd family DNA samples from 2 families in Co Down, 2 in Co Antrim, 2 in Co Tyrone and 1 in Co Armagh. So this should give us an idea of whether all these Todds come from one or two different DNA patterns or whether there are unique patterns in each county.
If you did a DNA sample, then you'd know if you connect to the Todds who came to Co Down in the 1600s or not.
Based on the note on the bottom of my recent posting, it sounds like you'd have to communicate with me on the Personal Message system. I'm new to Rootschat; so the rules are still a bit bewildering to me.
Richard
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mcmurtriecfr/todd.htm