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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Ann Baker on Friday 14 August 09 17:44 BST (UK)
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Hi all
Hopeing someone can help with this one.
I am trying to establish the parents of William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart.
I know they married in Inchinnan on 2 Dec 1774. William's name is recorded as Robison and Elizabeths as Youart. Have looked for them on both Scotland's People and IGI to no avail.
They don't appear on the 1841 unfortunately not are there death certs for them (tho admitedly I didn;t expect there would be).
Anyone any clues?
Ann :)
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Hello Ann
I want you to know I am still very interested in the family of William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart with the hope that there is a possible link to my Alexander Robertson b 1840 in Paisley. Thought the Ewarts would be easier to find, but again so many.
I have Susanna Robertson ch 1780 in Erskine Renfrew married Robert Miller 6 Aug 1803 Abbey Paisley - 13 children last child Janet Millar ch 29 Sep 1822 Abbey Paisley. Can't find a death date for Susanna - may have emigrated?
Isabell Robertson ch 1783 Erskine married Matthew Paul 6 Jan 1805 in Inchinnan - 6 children - died 16 April 1866 in 9 King St Paisley. Have her death certificate.
Elizabeth Ewart Robertson ch 27 Nov 1791 Kilmacolm Renfrew married James Millar 2 Dec 1808 at Neilston Renfrew - 7 children - died 5 July 1878 Johnstone Renfrew. Certificate shows her father William's occupation as Ploughman. Maybe his occupation was the reason why the family moved about.
Which brings me to John Robertson ch 15 Oct 1775 Abbey Paisley. Do you have a marriage or death date for him. I have found a John Robertson married to Jane Crawford 7 Jun 1799 in Inchinnan. He was a farmer in Ashyards Middlebie Dumfriesshire and Ferrycroft Inchinnan Renfrewshire - nine children born Renfrewshire but some married in Dunbarton and Dumfries. He died before 1841 and Jane Crawford Robertson and five children and their families emigrated to Iowa c1844. Another son and family followed later. I found this very interesting as there are Ewarts in Dumfries.
Haven't a marriage or death for James ch 1787 Abbey Paisley as yet.
Regards....Rae
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Hi Rae
Thanks for posting - hadn't forgotten about your William. I still can't find anything that proves my William married Elizabeth Grozet so far. I'm going to see if there's anything in the Poor Records next time I'm home as a last gasp! Also am going to see if can get access to anything in the library as regards the church. I don;t know which church they;d have married in - or even if it will still be there and if it is if would be same denomination. (There's been a bit of swapping about going on in last 25 years or so of buildings)
The Ewarts (with their various spellings) are a pain!
I have Susanna and Robert Miller but because there were others not 100% she's the one - tho looks that way.
Also have Isabella and Matthew Paul - for which there was much more info available. Thank goodness!
Elizabeth haven't looked at yet.
The other children were James born 23/8/1787 (abbey Paisley) for whom I have no death cert but am thinking was either before 1855 or he emigrated - no mortcloth record for him, Robert born 11/7/1796 (again Abbey Paisley).
So far I haven't found a John b 1775 that's connected to William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart but it would explain the gap between them getting married and William's birth. They married Dec 1774 and William was born 1777 so did they have another child that survived before then or was it one died as infant and not baptised or is this John the one?
Lol watch this space for the next thrilling installment of the Robertson clan!
Ann
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Hi Rae
Thank goodness one of us is awake! Yes have found John! Am jumping for joy now because it means that William's dad wasn;t another William! I know John not easy either but is so nice to have a change!
So I will have a look at our wee John tomorrow and see what comes up!
Ann :D
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Hello Ann
Thanks for your reply - I had completely missed Robert - as you say so many ways of spelling Ewart.
Looks like James will be hard to track down too.
The first Elizabeth ch 1785 in New Kilpatrick Dunbarton must have died as they had Elizabeth Ewart Robertson born 24 Nov 1791 in Kilmacolm Renfrew. There is a lot on the IGI for her and her family and I have her death certificate and those of two of her daughters - Isabel Laird Millar who married John Barr and Elizabeth Ewart Millar who married James Preston.
The mother Elizabeth Millar and daughter Elizabeth Preston died on the same day hours and miles apart! I can email you copies if you wish.
You will laugh when I tell you I am now finding Robertsons on the OTHER side of our family.
Bye for now ....Rae
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Hi Rae
Apologies not to have been back to you sooner - been busy week. I've not had a lot of chance to look this weej but will see what can find over weekend
Ann :D
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Hello Ann
I meant to thank you for your offer to check out the poor relief records for Wm Robertson/Elizabeth Grozet when you get a chance - that would be great.
Moving to Wm Robertson/Helen Barr family - did you find a death date for William b1777 - I have it as approx 1852 but nothing definite.
Have a marriage for Helen to John Glassford on 29 Sep 1857 High Church Paisley and have her death cert 2 August 1872 Abbey Paisley.
Have you found a marriage or death for Elizabeth and Jean - I've had no luck there.
Cheers.....Rae
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Hi Rae
A friend of mine is going to go and check poor records for me. Hopefully that mnioght give some clues re the Grozet connection.
Yes I knew about the Glassfords - have the info for them
Elizbaeth and Jean I have death certs for (scotland;s People). Elizabeth didn;t marry but Jeanie did. She married a William Wylie (am assuming you mean William's b1855 siblings?). If not and you mean his aunts - nope not found anything.
Howeever the Robertsons did have a thing about Canada and it could be they went there. Not looked yet cos been working on another line on dad's side - equal fun Stewarts! Why could I not have had Mc Sporrans or something!
Ann :D
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HI again Rae
Re Wm born 1777 death - nope all I can say for sure was pre 1855. There is a possible mortcloth record for 1852 but not enought to prove is him at mo.
I am going home soon so hope to be able to get to library and get stuck in. So frustrating to be just 5 hours drive away but not have time to get there!
Ann 8)
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Hi rae
My mate has been to Paisley library for me. Not got the paper copies yet but I don;t think your William and mine are same man. Elizabeth Grozet (Grossart in records) did indeed marry a William Robertson but not looking like same one as mine so far.
When I get the poor records via snail mail will scan and send.
Best wishes
Ann :D
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Hello Ann
Thanks so much for your efforts and please thank your friend for me also. I will be so grateful for any info on Elizabeth Grozet/Grossart/Grosset, and reading between the lines I am hoping you found something on her. I thought the name was so unusual it would be easy to research but far from it! I will be so disappointed if I don't link up with your Robertsons though I have been saying to myself not to get so locked in that I neglect other leads. I really felt I was on the right track when I found William the father and a son Alexander on the 1851.
I will be all a-quiver until I see your records, thanks again.
Rae
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Hi Rae
I haven't got them yet - we have a postal strike! They are on their way tho!
Ann
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Thanks Ann - I'll just have to keep gardening to stay occupied till the mail comes in.
Cheers ....Rae
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Hi rae
My mate has been to Paisley library for me. Not got the paper copies yet but I don;t think your William and mine are same man. Elizabeth Grozet (Grossart in records) did indeed marry a William Robertson but not looking like same one as mine so far.
When I get the poor records via snail mail will scan and send.
Best wishes
Ann :D
Hi Ann - Have you received the poor records yet - would appreciate a copy.
Would also be interested to know what records you found spelt 'Grossart'.
I'm dying of curiosity...
Regards...Rae
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Hi Rae
Been away for long weekend but..... da da daaaaaaaaaaaaaa
They have arrived but I can't get them to scan properly in a format you can read. Cos it's a copy of a copy and the writing is pretty apalling.
So am going to have to transcribe it for you for now.
But she did marry a william Robertson and seems he did a runner. It doesn;t prove they're not same chap btw. If it is he was a bigamist! Naughty man potentially!
The date she claimed Parish Relief was after my guy married Elizabeth Wylie. Was 1844 but he married Eliz Wylie in 1839.
But his kids names are haunting me cos they all fit. Off to zeddy byes now cos v late but will try and do a trascript tomorrow when get home from work.
Aren't they so annoying these Robertsons!
Ann :D
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Hi Ann
Thanks for your reply. Sorry to put you to so much trouble with the transcripts - I do appreciate it. William married your Elizabeth Wylie on 27th Jan 1849 so it could yet all fit together. I have always felt Elizabeth Grozet died early in the 1840's as I haven't found her on any census.
Thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards....Rae
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Hi Rae
Ok here we go
She claimed as Mrs William Robertson miaden name Elizabeth Grossart
Dtaed 27/11 1844
Says she married 1830 in Paisley.
He deserted family 10 weeks before claim made
Children Hellen 9, Janet 6, Alexander 4 and Rebecca 2
Said she attended no church and the health of her and the kids was good.
had little or not effects (so sad!)
Now the interesting bit is she was living at 27 Queen St . That's the area where my lot lived - used to live round there meself many moons ago.
I know it's not conclusive but I think my guy and yours are the same one. The kids names too much of a co-incidence. Hellen as in Hellen Barr and she had a sis Rebecca. Shame on him - he did a runner and maybe he did wait til Elizabeth 1 died before he married Elizabeth 2. Sorry I got the year wrong he did marry EW in 1849. Tho he didn't run very far - 2 streets away actually!
So if they were same chap - what happened to those 4 poor kids if she died pre 1849? I can't find her death but then v unlikely sh;d have had a headstone poor lady. The church she;d most likely have gone to has no graveyard but she could be in another one same distance in opposite direction - quite a few of mine are in there - unmarked graves.
If I can get a decent copy of this to send snail mail I will and will play more with scanner to see if can get it better resolution.
Hope this helps. I think welcome to the clan is also in order!
Ann :D
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Wow Ann! This is great news and thanks for the welcome to the clan.
It's over two years since I found the family at 33 Castle Street and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, so I'm glad not to have to scrap it all. I couldn't find William on the 1841 census but often looked at the family at 1 West Brae - only thing was they were aged 25 which seemed a bit young to have married on 30 Jan 1829 - should have been 35. They had Agnes born in 1830 and apart from her birth record I've found no trace of her, so perhaps she died in infancy. Must have if it is the same William as he and Elis Wylie have an Agnes. Now I have three more girls to look for and no birth records. Alexander I am happy to report lived till 1897 and had thirteen children according to M-I-L (four died in infancy).
He was a carter from aged 18.
If Elizabeth Grossart's parents are shown on the poor records could you let me know as I have been going over them all with their various spelling.
Thanks so much for all your help
Cheers...Rae
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Hi Rae
I can;t find that William on 1841 either - wonder if he'd gone wandering BUT the poor relief record says between May 1841 and 1842 they lived in Broomlands St then West St and then Newton St. These roads are all pretty well next to each other and it was weaving central for the west end of Paisley.
I think can explain the missing baptisms. I know that they were non conformists and therefore their records wouldn;t be on Scotlands People because not church of Scotland. But those records are meant to be coming to SPs at some point soon. However it all really depends on how good they were at keeping them.
I can tell you they were married by Walter Blair who was the Minister in the Gaelic Chruch - and I know they were also connected to Martyrs Memorial church (I was christened there as it happens cos we lived round the corner and was the local one). See link attached for more info re the churches. Walter Blair married quite a few of them! There must be some Highland connection but not found it yet. I reckon they must have come down as part of Highland Clearances in late1760s but until I can find the John who married Eliz Youart/Ewart's parents difficult one to prove.
http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/ilwwcm/publishing.nsf/Content/els-jh-HistoricBuildingsPaisleyChurches#Wednesday
As you'll see the Martyrs Mem has no graveyard and nor does the old Gaelic now either cos they moved them all in the late 60s - was big hue and cry about it all. It was all moved to Hawkhead cem which is huge!
Fraid Elizabeth's parents not on poor relief record but it does say she was born in Muirkirk - that's Ayrshire but I can't find anything for her on SPs. I think there had to have been more children cos a big gap between Agnes 1830 and Hellen 1835.
There is a possible on SP for an Elizabeth in Peebles which isn't that far from Ayrshire where the mum was Agnes and the birth was 1811. I'm a member of the North Ayshire FHS (Muirkirk in their patch) so will ask them to see what they might be able to dig up. But chances are Agnes 1830 was first born and usually the first girl would be named after mum's mum. If this is the right one her dad was a Robert. So if we follow naming convention you'd expect a William and a Robert in there somewhere - could well be but died as babies and being non conform no records online! grr!
Now v important question have you got FH software that can handle a gedcom? Then I can send you my tree and would love one in return.
West Brae is intersting because it;s same end of the town as the other streets above - in fact not that far from Broomlands st. Best way to describe it is Broomlands St heading east into the town, becomes Wellmeadow then the high St. West Brae is just off to the left of Wellmeadow and at the top of West Brae is - the very church they married in! So I wonder is this them and he was off wandering as was his want?
I should be going home in a week or 2 so will get you some pics of how it is now.. Hopefully the tenements are all still there. Pretty confident re parts of Broomlands St and Queen St but not so sure re West St. I know some are still there but some been pulled down. This is spooky I went to school around there too when I was a wee lassie.
I'll also give my mum's cuz a ring - she;s a Robertson (82!) and see if she knows any more. She's given me a lot on the gt grandparents but not sure what she has before that. I do have a photo of my Gt grandad William and his wife Christina Fraser but alas nothing before that.
All very intriguing!
Ann :D
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Ann, thanks so much for all the info and the link to the churches site. Great to have the pictures and info on where our ancestors were baptised and married.
Haven't got Gedcom as yet so will have to work on it. I have PAF5 from the LDS site so will have to read up on it. I don't learn new tricks easily.
William and Elizabeth (Grozet) are on the 1841 at 1 West Brae but their ages are given as 25 should be older. No Agnes, but Hellen 7 Janet 4 and Alexander 2. I have the copy from FreeCen and also SP.
I have the OPR birth for Elizabeth Grozart daughter of Robert Grozart, Weaver, in Peebles and of Agnes Wallace his wife was born on the 23rd Jan and baptized on the 24th Feb 1811 by the Rev Dr John Lee, Min of Peebles.
Interesting to know Eliz G has given Muirkirk, Ayr, as her place of birth, as if she and William split up maybe she went back to Ayr or Peebles. Did they have divorce in those days? I know she died before 2 Sep 1870 from Alexander's marriage certificate and William was still living.
Re-reading my last message I sound quite heartless saying what good news but of course I was so happy to think there was the connection to the Castle Street family. The poor records make such sad reading and the 1840's were a particularly hard time.
I found a marriage for a Rebecca Robertson (19) to Alexander Crawford on 17 July 1862 in Glasgow but her parents are shown as William Robertson Harness Weaver on the marriage cert and mother Elizabeth Robertson MS Fraser (deceased). Her death cert 27 May 1914 (70) shows parents as William Robertson Weaver dec and Elizabeth Robertson MS Fraser deceased again - thought they may have confused the surname but I guess not.
Bye for now....Rae
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Hi Ann - Have been finding some interesting things re Wm and Eliz Grozet's daughters. On SP 1851 census I have found Helen aged 17 and Rebecca aged 8 at Paisley High Ch Renfrew GROS data 573/00 027/00 024 - and can you believe NO IMAGE available!! It must be very close to 33 Castle St as that data no is 573/00 028/00 008. Do you know if NO IMAGE for census means the quality was too poor to print or should I ask for help in finding them in a new post on Rootschat?
I found two sisters of the right ages married in Hutchesontown Lanark - Rebecca as mentioned in last post and Helen's second marriage both in 1862 and they match up almost perfectly (William is named as Hand Loom Weaver and Weaver on the other certs) EXCEPT they give their mother's maiden name as Frazer or Fraser. WOT IF they though her name was Frazer? Grozet was sometimes spelt as Grozer and derives from the French so maybe that's how it was pronounced.
Helen was married three times and I obtained her second marriage cert first as they named their children for each other. If you look on the IGI you'll see what I mean. Helen's second husband was Peter Barr Steel and Rebecca named her son Peter Barr Steel Crawford, and Helen's daughter is Rebecca Barr Robertson Crawford Steel (researcher's delight!) I picked up on the Barr for Helen Barr but Peter Steel's mother was Christina Barr.
ANYWAY I have just got Helen's first marriage cert to Mathew McDougall on 2 Oct 1855 and it gives Helen's birth - Born and registered on 26th August 1835 at Paisley - so it is looking to me that these might be our girls. I have only to convince myself about the maiden name. I have their death certificates and they all show Frazer and yet I can't find a marriage for a Wm Robertson and Elizabeth Fraser. There were four children born to a couple with these names in Banff and they are Mary born 25 Apr 1830, Alexander Mackay forn 27 Sep 1833, Elizabeth born 10 Sep 1835, and Hugh Nairne born 27 Dec 1837 which don't fit in between our children' dates.
I can email you copies of the certs. Janet is a bit harder to trace, there are a few more of them.
Cheers....Rae
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Hi Rae
Crikey you've been a v busy bee.
Have been finding some interesting things re Wm and Eliz Grozet's daughters. On SP 1851 census I have found Helen aged 17 and Rebecca aged 8 at Paisley High Ch Renfrew GROS data 573/00 027/00 024 - and can you believe NO IMAGE available!! It must be very close to 33 Castle St as that data no is 573/00 028/00 008. Do you know if NO IMAGE for census means the quality was too poor to print or should I ask for help in finding them in a new post on Rootschat?
There IS a problem with 1851 for that bit of Paisley. Images not that good. SPs will tho attempt a transcript if you ask them.
No divorce really then - too expensive !
I'm not going to be able to do anything for a day or three as I have an exam on Tuesday but after that will have a good look! The Fraser thing tho is v intersting especially given my gt gt grandmother who married the Robertson was a Fraser! And said Frasers were from Highland parts - not found them in Banff tho - Invernesshire I think but then there are literally squillions of Frasers in Highlands!
They don;t make it easy!
Speak soon after the dreaded deed is done Tuesday
Ann :D
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Thanks for your reply Ann. Wishing you the very best for your exams.
Cheers....Rae
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Hi Ann
Hope your exams went well.
The good news is MonicaLesl has checked out the 1851 for me and advises that Eliz Grozet's daughters Helen and Rebecca were living at 116 George Street Paisley High Church with their grandmother Agness Groset (52) White seam sewer born Ireland. My bad news is that it's not likely that they would have thought their mother's maiden name would be Fraser if they had lived with their Grandma Groset, so I will have to look elsewhere for their marriages and deaths.
I looked for Agness Groset in 1841 and found one Agness Grosart aged 45 female servant born outside Census county living at Inverkip-Renfrewshire address West Bay. Also working with her is a Barbara Robertson 19 Female servant born outside census county. William's sister Barbara was not on the 1841 census with her family at Spierston. By the way, can you tell me where Spierston is, is it a street?
So it looks to me as though Elizabeth Grozet may have died before 1851. She must have been very young when she married. Could you check her Poor records for me to see if she gave her age?
Regards....Rae
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Hi Rae
Exam was not so bad but you never know if that's good or bad! New Year will tell lol!
Spierston now loonger there - not a street was common ground probably best description but was i right area being west end of town.
I sem to reme,mber finding a barbara who I thought wasn;t mine so I need to have a look see and see if she could have been elizabeth G's. I think our wee Wullie led a very complicated life by looks of things e.g. on 1851 why is EW with her parents and not him - he;s with his paents and there is a Barbara on there? But cos of scottish naming convention she could be a robertson or she might be someone else i.e. Rebeccas is on there as Rebecca Robertson but by then she was Rebecca Crawford (If is any comfort my dad still calls me by maiden name so if I was there on census night he;d say I was Ann Connolly lol)
Sadly no age on poor records for EG.
Now exam free til January will have some more time for rummage tho not in next few days as have to go home this weekend - dad not too well but I will try and get you pics round west end - Castle st etc. Not far from where they live so am sure can nip out for a wee snap or 5.
But meanwhile this is me outside the martyrs mem - I was christened there and I know they attended that church just a few years before
Ann :D
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I'm the lone soul with the blue coat on lol!
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Those houses you can see in backgrounhd are King St. Our lot lived on toher side of road you can see in fronnt of church.
I lived here when I was a wee lass. The house with brown window frames - one up on left - new windows since we were there! But where our guys lived were similar buildings.
Ann :D
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Ooops should have said with church behind you as in pic you- king st houses behind it
Our humble abode was bottom of next st on right along from King St.
the Robertsons lived across the main road (wellmeadow) - so I'd walk behind that car in pic to go to other side and that would take me right into Castle St.
Queen st was over to the right from there.
West Brae was - I'm outside church - turn left and walk down road about 250 yds and up hill on left.
I will tryt and scan you a map of old Paisley cos it will make more sense.
The hosuses tho weren't far apart and the Robertsons did tent to stick to the west end tho they did venture near the high St (My lot lived in Storie st which is a spit from west end but was considered town!(
Ann :D
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Hi Anne - in the picture of you outside Martyr's Mem Church, is the tenement to the left and sort of behind the Church in Sandholes Street? Just out of curiousity as I'm a westender too but have forgotten such a lot of places.
Regards,
Cuthie
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Hello Ann
Thanks for the great photos of the church and the houses and of course the lass in the blue coat!
I found a map of the area and they certainly stayed in the same place over the years.
Alexander and Mary (Wallace) Robertson and nine children AND a boarder lived at 12 Storie St Bass*nie* ? Civil Parish of Abbey Quod Sacra Parish of Linwood in 1891. They were married at High Church Manse Middle Parish Paisley banns acc to the forms of Church of Scotland: guess that would be the High Church on the link you gave me earlier.
Re Barbara Robertson living at Inverkip in 1841, she and Agnes Grosart were working for three older ladies (independents) and her age and occupation fits in with the details on the 1851 at Castle Street.
Have a good week-end
Cheers....Rae
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Hi Cuthie
Yup. The tenement you can see is indeed Sandholes St which runs down the back of Martyrs Mem and joins Wellmeadow at the other end - the Rosebud pub was on the 'V' bit where the road split. Not sure what it's called these days! There used to be a public loo there too but long since closed.
I lived in Clavering St at the Well St end.
Ann :D
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Thanks, Ann, for that information. I remember the pub and the toilets and also the solitary phone box at the V junction of Wellmeadow and Sandholes.. I lived in Well Street, just round the corner from Clavering Street. Best wishes.
Cuthie
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Hi Cuthie
Were you connected in any way with the woodyard at bottom of Clavering St. I seen to remember one of the Joiners was called Cuthbertson? My mum and dad knew the guy quite well.
All I remem,ber is me dad chucking the meeses from the trap under the sink oot the windae into the yard using the wee shovel from the companion set by the coal fire - was next door to us. lol how times have changed!
(We didn;t have them a lot but when we did it was like ww2 with traps everywhere - think was a phobia from when my mum lived in Canal St during WW2 when there were rats everywhere! She was a we bit feart!)
Ann :D
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Cuthie
Do you also remember the women in black in that shop on Well st. The one that sold everything and smelt of candles and paraffin? I always felt you had to whisper when you went in there. I remember just a mass of wooden drawers and they knew exactly where everything was - not a lable in sight.
And of course Crangles corner of Clavering st - the offy that sold the best tablet in the entire world?
Ann
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Hi Ann, I had a cousin who was a joiner although I don't remember him being in Well Street, think it was Castle Street/George Street direction.
I do remember the shop you talk about. I loved going in there. It was all mysterious and I liked the smell.
Regards, Cuthie :D :D
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Hi,
Have just started on the Robertson/Ewart line through Isabella Robertson and Mathew Paul and found this post. I know its been awhile since anyone replied here but thought I would try. Have been trying to find the names of the six children of Isabella Robertson (daughter of William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart) and Mathew Paul (son of John Paul and Margaret White).
So far I have John c. 1805,Margaret c.1807, Mathew c.1817, Catherine c.1819, Elizabeth c. 1821
John Paul c.1805 died 1873 Paisley, his daughter Isabella born 1856 married John Ritchie and they migrated to New Zealand.
Does anyone have anything more on Isabella Robertson and Mathew Paul?
Thanks
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
I have quite a bit on the Robertsons as William (who married Elizabeth Ewart) is my gtx4 Grandfather. I'm descended from a line of Williams, Isabella's borther William being my 3xgt grandfather.
William & Elizabeth had 7 children that I've found so far
I've not done much on Isabella yet tho I knew she'd married a Matthew Paul.
Happy to share. If you want to pm me with your email address can send you a gedcom with the story so far.
Ann :D
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Hi Sharon
A couple of OPR baptisms have found for two of their kids
b3/10/1819 PAUL CATHARINE Father MATHEW PAUL Mother ISOBEL ROBERTSON ABBEY Parish /RENFREW 559/00 0030 0585
b24/11/1817 PAUL MATHEW Father MATHEW PAUL Mother ISOBELL ROBERTSON ABBEY Parish /RENFREW 559/00 0030 0540
Am looking to see what else can find then will send you the file
Ann :D
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Thanks Ann,
I also found Catherine and Mathew birth, I got the names of Mathew Paul and Isabella Robertson from son John's marriage certificate. I also found Mathew and Isabella's marriage, 6 January 1805 Inchinnan, Renfrew, although couldn't find John's birth which would have been about 1805.
Thanks again
Sharon
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Hello Sharon and Ann
Isabella Robertson and Matthew Paul are on Rootsweb World Connect (shows four children). You may have seen this.
I found six children for Isabella and Matthew by courtesy of Christine Normington's research on Rootweb archives. They also had a daughter Isabella Paul born c1810 in Paisley married David Swan c1833 in Paisley.
Christine's research is very extensive and you will need to scroll down through the years - almost any mention of Robertson/Paul/Swan is her post.
July 2003 Robertson/Paul
Aug 2003 Poor Laws Isabella Paul (Robertson) 1847 Isabella Swan (Paul) 1849
Oct 2003 John Paul labourer
(Poor law statement for John Paul and his second wife Agnes Johnstone)
Feb 2006 (Renfrew) Paul Family
Kind regards....Rae
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Sharon and Ann
Meant to add
RootsWeb:SCT-RENFREW- L Archives
Regards....Rae