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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: Noycie on Thursday 13 August 09 09:34 BST (UK)
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Could some kind person with access look up in Passenger Lists, for when the Gifkins family entered England.
The names are William, Catherine with possible children William, Sarah, Mary, Martin and Henry. All bar William were born abroad, even his wife.
I think they enter England via Southampton prior to 1863, as at that time William made his will in Winchester Hampshire, stating that he was retired form the Army. passing away soon after.
I have never found William in any English census.
Thanks
Clare
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The incomnig passengers lists on ancestry only start at 1878.
But there are a surprising number of Gifkins on there. (many arriving from Canada, but other places too)
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Hi
Stangley enough I checked ancestry and their names came up???
But I don't have access to view. Maybe it is just William Junior.
Any information would be great
Regards
Clare
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There does seem to be a hit for a William Gifkins, but not for, say, Sarah or Martin so probably either unrelated or something to do with William Jr.
From the 1871 census, I can see them scattered, possibly:
Catherine, 45, b. Gilbraltrar, a widow and servant in St. Michael Winchester Hampshire
Mary, 23, b. Ireland, a ladies maid in Marylebone
Sarah, 22, b. India, schoolmistress, brother Charlie, 11, b. Winchester Hampshire and sister Catherine, 9, b. Winchester Hampshire, in St. Thomas Winchester
Martin, 14, b. Meerat India, at Woolhampton College St. Mary in Berkshire.
In 1861 I found them misindexed (as "Pipkins" on what I have, don't know about what Ancestry will list them under. Handwriting is not the easiest)
RG9/691 folio 118 page 14
Clement Street, St. Thomas Winchester
William Jifkins? (old-style f looks like a p, first letter of surname hard to read), 39 (or possibly 37), soldier, b. Oxfordshire Chatgray(??)
Catherine, 32, b. Ireland
Mary M, 16, b. Ireland
Sarah, 14, b. East Indies
William, 12, b. East Indies
Martin, 5, b. East Indies
Henry, 3, b. East Indies
Charles, 1, b. Hants Winchester
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Thank you very much for finding them in the 1861 census. I hadn't thought of putting something like Pipkins.
My problem is with the grandchildren who appear with Catherine from the 1891 census on-wards. They give their place of birth as Folkestone. Kent But I can't find an entry for any of them. So I don't know who their parents are?
Catherine Priscilla is my grandmother, she puts her fathers name as William Merchant on her marriage certificate? Maybe I should look under Pipkins?
Thank you once again
Kind Regards
Clare
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1881 indicates they are William's children:
RG11 1009 93 74
4 Providence Place, Folkestone
William Jefkins 32 Fish n fruit dealer bn East Indies Kurrachee
Mary A 28 wife bn Jersey
Margaret 5 dtr
Catherine 4 dtr
William 3 son
Mary A 2 dtr all children bn Folkestone.
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William seems to have consistantly adopted this spelling.
Here are the births of the children:
MAry Ann Jefkins
Jan/Feb/Mar 1879
Elham (covers Folkestone) ref 2a 989
Margaret Jefkins
Ap/May/Jun1875
Elham 2a 890
Katherine Jefkins
Jul/Aug/Sep 1876
Elham 2a 937
William Patrick
Jan/Feb/Mar 1879
Elham 2a 989
There are also numerous other Jefkins births in Elham from more that one set of parents, so I dont know if William and wife had more, or if a sibling also settled in this area and adopted this spelling of the name, or if they are unconnected.
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William must have died between 1881 and 1891.
Here is his widow witrh some younger children in 1891 (Catherine and MAry A are with grandparents now)
RG12 748 137 52
8 Mill Rd Folkestone
Mary A Jefkins 33 widow charwoman bn Jersey
Elizabeth 10
Ellen 8
Martin P 6 children bn Folks.
Births for these children are:
Elizabeth MAry Ap/May/Jun 1881 Elham 2a 993
Ellen Oc/Nov/Dec 1882 2a 1017
Martin Jan/Feb/Mar 1885 2a 1062
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http://www.search.fibis.org/
shows William Jifkins, Corporal, 1st. Batt. 60th Foot, on the medal roll for the Indian Mutiny (1857-1859 period)
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Thank you all so much I don't know what I would have done without you pointing me in the right direction. I thought of most ways to spell it but not that one.
Once again thank you all very much
Kind Regards
Clare
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A tip - I put in the Christian name and approx d-o-b only, no surname at all, then look down the list of possibles to see if they're is anything that looks likely!
( I guess the name was pronounced Gifkins with a 'g' as in 'giraffe', rather than a 'g' as in 'gorilla', thus easily changeable to a 'j')
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I am descended from this family. Henry Gifkins was my mother's grandfather
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Hello Clare,
I have managed to put together a lot of information on the Gifkins family. Members of the same generation used different spellings. The family originally come from Oxfordshire - Chalgrove and Sydenham. I have got back to Thomas Gifkines in Sydenham in the early 1700s. William Patrick (who used Jefkins") who lived in Folkestone had 11 children and his widow re-married. If you want all the details from my tree please contact me on jerryturner1@hotmail.com
Jerry Turner