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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:04 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am hoping that someone can help with this mystery.
I looked up my Maunder line in the 1911 Census and the youngest child's name appears to have changed!
Frederick George Maunder(b1889) and Alfred Henry(1891) were in the Bristol Home for Boys, Cumberland Road in the 1901 census. John Richard Maunder ( father) died in 1896.
Clara( mother) and daughter Alice were living at 13 Ashley St, Ashley, Bristol 1901 census (thanks to Arranroots for this info :D )
The 1911 Census has Clara widow 54
Frederick George 22
Albert Edward 18
I wonder what happened to Alfred? or am I looking at a different family
Cheers
Anne
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Could Albert Edward be another child - ages 2 years different - who was staying with relatives on the night of the 1901 census?
Irene
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Hello again Anne
As Irene suggests, there is a separate birth registration in Barton Regis for both boys - Albert is in 1893 - so they are two separate individuals.
You need to keep searching on 1911, it seems - unless he had gone abroad?
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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In the 1901 census there is an Albert Maunders , Poor law Boy, aged 8, at 90 York Road Bristol , this address being shown as "Scattered homes of Bristol Board of Guardians"
Irene
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Thank you :D
I hadn't considered another sibling!
Ah, the tree just keeps growing.
On another note- does anyone know what a sripe dresser is ? That was listed Frederick's occupation
Cheers
Anne
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In the 1901 census there is an Albert Maunders , Poor law Boy, aged 8, at 90 York Road Bristol , this address being shown as "Scattered homes of Bristol Board of Guardians"
Irene
Only problem with that one is that his place of birth is given as Weston super Mare - but not always accurate!
The birth cert would sort it out I suppose.
Where did you see "sripe dresser" Anne - can you post the relevant bit somewhere so that we can see? What is Frederick's occupation on other docs, so that we can see what skills he had?
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Hi Acorn,
Have you got Alice and family in the 1891 census? If you have could you post the reference numbers.
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Hello,
Reference numbers: RG13/2402/62/32
Acorn2
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Hi Acorn,
Thats the 1901..have you the 1891?
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Hi,
Sorry, here is 1891: RG12/1984/32/18.
Sripe dresser is listed as Frederick's occupation in the 1911 Census.
On his marriage certificate he is listed as a fireman on boats as was his father
Cheers
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Sripe dresser is listed as Frederick's occupation in the 1911 Census.
On his marriage certificate he is listed as a fireman on boats as was his father
Cheers
Hmmm - that doesn't help much, does it?
What about censuses?
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Frederick was a scholar in the 1901 census at the boys home with Alfred.
Frederick was born in St George, Bristol. Perhaps I'm in the wrong tree ;D
They also dropped the s from Maunders
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Oh sorry - I was thinking Frederick was the father - silly me!
:-[
Can you post the relevant portion of the 1911 so that we can take a squint at it?
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Some ideas from
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/s.html
Stick dresser
Tripe dresser
Stone dresser
The board of guardians would have been responsible for apprenticing out a boy in receipt of poor relief, so it would be a good idea to get hold of their records and see whether there is any reference to Frederick being apprenticed to a tradesman.
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Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page
MAUNDER, CLARA HEAD WIDOW F 54 BOOT MACHINIST BRISTOL
MAUNDER, FREDRICK GEORGE SON SINGLE M 22 SRIPE DRESSER BRISTOL
MAUNDER, ALBERT EDWARD SON SINGLE M 18 BOTTLING DEPT BRISTOL
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Nooooo - not what I meant!
You can't post the transcription for copyright reasons - unless you typed it up yourself. Have you looked at the image and does it actually say sripe dresser?
:)
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Ooops :-[
I have viewed the original and it does say sripe dresser.
I have also found out that there were nine children in the family-- 3 listed as having died. Perhaps Alfred was one of them
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Oh sorry - I was thinking Frederick was the father - silly me!
:-[
Can you post the relevant portion of the 1911 so that we can take a squint at it?
another no no ::)
actually, it must be getting close to when we can treat the 1911 census (in terms of selective pasting of image-areas and our own transcriptions) as we can the 1841 - 1901 ?
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You can actually post a small sample of the 1911 in the same way as the other censuses - it's been done and the C Eds didn't clobber anyone (honest!)
I'll get them to check my statement though, just to be safe.
:)
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I thought so too, based on the 1911 Copyright guidance thread (see quote) but had one deleted - altho twas just the signature area.
FindMyPast has an exclusive* license to host the images of the 1911 for a limited period. The index and the online transcriptions on that site are subject to copyright. Therefore please be aware of the following:
You may NOT
post full images;
post screen-shots of 1911 site which include the transcription or search results;
copy and paste transcriptions;
make overt look-up requests - you may find it removed without warning;
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Any images and transcriptions that are found will be removed.
Incidentally, fwiw, the TNA detailed in a recent FOI request about their contractual involvement with BrightSolid, that they didnt do 'exclusive' .....
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Does this mean I'm going to get clobbered :o
Acorn2
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Does this mean I'm going to get clobbered :o
Acorn2
No - I'll take the blame if it's wrong, don't worry!
;)
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is there such a thing as reverse transportation :)
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Hi. Replying to your Clara Maunder enquiry. This Clara Maunder had a daughter Clara Matilda Maunder (b Bedminster 1883). She was a barmaid at the Crown and Dove pub in Bridewell Street, Bristol. It was probably here that she met my Grandfather's brother (Ernest George Hale) and later married. They had a daughter Ivy Rosina Hale (and another daughter who sadly died before she was 1 year old). So it appears that your grandfather, Fred, is the brother of Clara Matilda. Be nice to know if this all tallies with your research.
Regards
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Hello,
Thank you so very much for your reply :)
I now have another aunt to add to my tree Ivy Rosina Hale.
Kind regards
Acorn2