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Title: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:04 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am hoping that someone can help with this mystery.
I looked up my Maunder line in the 1911 Census and the youngest child's name appears to have changed!
Frederick George Maunder(b1889) and Alfred Henry(1891)  were in the Bristol Home for Boys, Cumberland Road in the 1901 census. John Richard Maunder ( father) died in 1896.
Clara( mother) and daughter Alice were living at 13 Ashley St, Ashley, Bristol 1901 census (thanks to Arranroots for this info  :D  )
The 1911 Census has Clara widow 54
                                     Frederick George 22
                                     Albert Edward    18
I wonder what happened to Alfred? or am I looking at a different family
Cheers
Anne
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: brushbroomstick on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:18 BST (UK)
Could Albert Edward be another child - ages 2 years different - who was staying with relatives on the night of the 1901 census?

Irene
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:20 BST (UK)
Hello again Anne

As Irene suggests, there is a separate birth registration in Barton Regis for both boys - Albert is in 1893 - so they are two separate individuals.

You need to keep searching on 1911, it seems - unless he had gone abroad?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: brushbroomstick on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:24 BST (UK)
In the 1901 census there is an Albert Maunders , Poor law Boy, aged 8, at 90 York Road Bristol , this address being shown as "Scattered homes of Bristol Board of Guardians"

Irene
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:14 BST (UK)
Thank you  :D
 I hadn't considered another sibling!
Ah, the tree just keeps growing.
On another note- does anyone know what a sripe dresser is ?  That was listed Frederick's occupation
Cheers
Anne
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:16 BST (UK)
In the 1901 census there is an Albert Maunders , Poor law Boy, aged 8, at 90 York Road Bristol , this address being shown as "Scattered homes of Bristol Board of Guardians"

Irene

Only problem with that one is that his place of birth is given as Weston super Mare - but not always accurate!

The birth cert would sort it out I suppose.

Where did you see "sripe dresser" Anne - can you post the relevant bit somewhere so that we can see?  What is Frederick's occupation on other docs, so that we can see what skills he had?

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Woody32 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:33 BST (UK)
Hi Acorn,

Have you got Alice and family in the 1891 census? If you have could you post the reference numbers.

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:39 BST (UK)

Hello,

Reference numbers:  RG13/2402/62/32

Acorn2

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Woody32 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:41 BST (UK)
Hi Acorn,

Thats the 1901..have you the 1891?
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:51 BST (UK)
Hi,
Sorry, here is 1891: RG12/1984/32/18.

Sripe dresser is listed as Frederick's occupation in the 1911 Census.
On his marriage certificate  he is listed as a fireman on boats as was his father
Cheers
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:53 BST (UK)

Sripe dresser is listed as Frederick's occupation in the 1911 Census.
On his marriage certificate  he is listed as a fireman on boats as was his father
Cheers

Hmmm - that doesn't help much, does it?

What about censuses?

 :-\
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:58 BST (UK)

Frederick was a scholar in the 1901 census at the boys home with Alfred.

Frederick was born in St George, Bristol. Perhaps I'm in the wrong tree  ;D

They also dropped the s from Maunders
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:00 BST (UK)
Oh sorry - I was thinking Frederick was the father - silly me!

 :-[

Can you post the relevant portion of the 1911 so that we can take a squint at it?

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:07 BST (UK)
Some ideas from

 http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/s.html

Stick dresser

Tripe dresser

Stone dresser

The board of guardians would have been responsible for apprenticing out a boy in receipt of poor relief, so it would be a good idea to get hold of their records and see whether there is any reference to Frederick being apprenticed to a tradesman.

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:23 BST (UK)

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page
MAUNDER, CLARA HEAD WIDOW  F 54 BOOT MACHINIST BRISTOL     
MAUNDER, FREDRICK GEORGE SON SINGLE  M 22 SRIPE DRESSER BRISTOL     
MAUNDER, ALBERT EDWARD SON SINGLE  M 18 BOTTLING DEPT BRISTOL     

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:35 BST (UK)
Nooooo - not what I meant!

You can't post the transcription for copyright reasons - unless you typed it up yourself.  Have you looked at the image and does it actually say sripe dresser?

 :)
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:56 BST (UK)
Ooops :-[
I have viewed the original and it does say sripe dresser.
I have also found out that there were nine children in the family-- 3 listed as having died. Perhaps Alfred was one of them
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 12 August 09 16:15 BST (UK)
Oh sorry - I was thinking Frederick was the father - silly me!

 :-[

Can you post the relevant portion of the 1911 so that we can take a squint at it?



another no no    ::)

actually, it must be getting close to when we can treat the 1911 census (in terms of selective pasting of image-areas and our own transcriptions) as we can the 1841 - 1901 ?

Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 12 August 09 16:36 BST (UK)
You can actually post a small sample of the 1911 in the same way as the other censuses - it's been done and the C Eds didn't clobber anyone (honest!)

I'll get them to check my statement though, just to be safe.

 :)
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 12 August 09 16:45 BST (UK)
I thought so too, based on the 1911 Copyright guidance thread (see quote) but had one deleted - altho twas just the signature area.

Quote
FindMyPast has an exclusive* license to host the images of the 1911 for a limited period.  The index and the online transcriptions on that site are subject to copyright.  Therefore please be aware of the following:

You may NOT

post full images;
post screen-shots of 1911 site which include the transcription or search results;
copy and paste transcriptions;
make overt look-up requests - you may find it removed without warning;
offer unwanted images to others.

Any images and transcriptions that are found will be removed.


Incidentally, fwiw, the TNA detailed in a recent FOI request about their contractual involvement with BrightSolid, that they didnt do 'exclusive' .....
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Thursday 13 August 09 05:25 BST (UK)

 Does this mean I'm going to get clobbered  :o

Acorn2
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: Arranroots on Thursday 13 August 09 11:33 BST (UK)

 Does this mean I'm going to get clobbered  :o

Acorn2

No - I'll take the blame if it's wrong, don't worry!

 ;)
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Thursday 13 August 09 11:48 BST (UK)

is there such a thing as reverse transportation   :)
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: tenninut on Monday 25 April 11 13:56 BST (UK)
Hi.  Replying to your Clara Maunder enquiry.  This Clara Maunder had a daughter Clara Matilda Maunder (b Bedminster 1883). She was a barmaid at the Crown and Dove pub in Bridewell Street, Bristol. It was probably here that she met my Grandfather's brother (Ernest George Hale) and later married. They had a daughter Ivy Rosina Hale (and another daughter who sadly  died before she was 1 year old).  So it appears that your grandfather, Fred, is the brother of Clara Matilda. Be nice to know if this all tallies with your research.
     Regards
Title: Re: 1911 Census
Post by: acorn2 on Tuesday 26 April 11 02:50 BST (UK)
Hello,

Thank you so very much for your reply  :)
I now have another aunt to add to my tree   Ivy Rosina Hale.
Kind regards

Acorn2