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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: phylscot on Sunday 09 August 09 19:54 BST (UK)
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emile louis was my cousin who left Liverpool around 1909 to go to the Gold fields near San Francisco. He never returned because he was murdered while he was out there. we are trying to find some information about what happened to him. Any ideas would be gratefully received. Phyl
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Do you know when/where he was born?
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Hi Phyl:
Your Emile could have been headed for the Sierra Nevada or Northern California. There really aren't too many areas around San Francisco to search for gold, but since quite a number of people have heard of San Francisco, it is referenced quite a bit.
As Shelly suggested, it would help if we had a bit more information, please.
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There is an Emile Louis [b. about 1886] who immigrated to the US from England in 1905? He was in Montana in 1920. Could this be him?
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It looks like the Emile that Erato found was on a WWI Draft Registration Card as Emile Arthur Louis b. 27 Nov. 1885. He was a naturalized US citizen. It appears that he's still in Montana as of the 1930 Census.
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http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action shows only one Emile Louis; he left in 1905, was b. circa 1888 (on that record, at least), and was heading to Montreal (It is not uncommon for people to head into the US via Canadian ports).
Emile A. Louis in Montana died in 1936:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mtlcgs/mtmsgs/mtdeath30L.htm
Age "38"? Whoever filled out his death certificate might not have known him very well.
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Emile Louis was born Nov 24, 1889 in Seacombe, Birkenhead, Cheshire UK.
His mother was Grace Todd from Liverpool, and his father was Emile Louis from Mauritius, a ship's steward. It was her second marriage. After she died he married again and had a second son Arthur Emile Louis born 12 Nov 1913 died Liverpool jan1994.
I have 2 cousins whose mothers remembered Emile and told me the story but noone knows what happened next.
The passenger lists show Emile Louis leaving Liverpool 1905 on the Tunisian for Halifax Nova Scotia - I think this will be him. I don't think the Montana one is.
Thank you all very much for your interest.
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Emile A. Louis is buried in Conrad Cemetery in Flathead County, Montana.
http://files.usgwarchives.net/mt/flathead/cemetery/conceml.txt
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You could try the county library for an obituary or perhaps a newspaper report of his death if it was, indeed, a murder.
http://www.flatheadcountylibrary.org/default.htm
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On the passenger list for the Tunisian, it says Emile came from Lancs. Co. and was going to Brandon. It looks like there's a Brandon in Manitoba, Canada, so maybe he didn't come to the US.
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Dear Phyl,
Thank you very much for your emails and sorry for the confusion, I think there's a glitch in the system as I did get your emails and I replied straight away to your first message the other day but my reply may never have been sent!
That's very annoying if that's still the case so I've sent you several messages just now, one as a reply the other as a private message, hoping one gets through! I'm trying this just in case there's problems (or maybe it was a temporary glitch?)
Anyway, I have been doing a bit of searching of Ancestry and found some very interesting things about Emile (of Mauritius's) children; two of whom followed in his footsteps, as stewards then ship's cooks and bakers.
He had two other children, I don't know whether you know of them; John, born 1919, and Francis Gerard Louis, born 1921.
Arthur Emile Louis was the son of Rose A Maye (I've worked it out; Rose was Rose A Maye; oh, I spent ages explaining that in my 'lost' email, the one you didn't get!
The clue was on a passenger list I had seen before, wherein the address of someone they knew in the UK was listed and she was called 'Maye' and you see I found Arthur's birth record, and it indicates Maye as his mum's surname; so that makes Rose, Rose A Maye!)
Anyway, so Emile and Rose had 4 children together, though I think Arthur Thomas, born 1917 in Hong Kong, may well have died young, I'm not sure though.
Well, I hope you get one of my messages and I look forward to learning more stories about Emile; its lovely to know there are some great stories about him in the family.
I'd love to find out more about his 'swag' bags and such like; there were so many great characters aboard the Gathpool!
All the best,
Bye for now,
Jess
Email me at ...................; just replace with dots; I'm trying to avoid phising/spammers! Thanks, bye for now, Jess)
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Hi Jess,
Unfortunately you can't put your e-mail address - it has to be done by the personal message system.
Sandra